Scotland

Discuss.

I can't right now... might break the swear filter.

I understand. That also goes to explain my OP.

You can only laugh or cry. I've decided to cry.

funnyExiledScot wrote:You can only laugh or cry. I've decided to cry.

Well... that made me laugh. So I guess you are right.

that team had no direction, ambition the number of pens against was disgraceful the team was absolute c***. One or possibly 2 godd players Welsh was 1.

There is no excuse for the absolutely shocking display that I just witnessed. With the exception of Welsh and Gray, there wasn't another Scottish player who got plus marks in my book. Italy were miles ahead of us in every part of the game. That was the worst display from Scotland that I have ever seen.

Andy Robinson MUST go now. There's nothing he can say after that game, there's no damage limitation. It's inexcusable to have a Scotland side perform like that. I am disgusted at the team. I just hope the SRU have the balls to say enough is enough. I don't even know why Robinson would want to continue. His 6N record is deplorable. It's time for him to leave.

Utter feckin garbage Robinson you veggie t**t. Resign if you have any self respect and scuttle back to Bath. Take that useless t8t Ford with you - he is now without doubt the worst hooker in world rugby - he is also the worst captain. De Luca -idiot. Hamilton -idiot. Should not get invited back. No plan of any description. Townsend I hate you too you snivelling little git - I hereby renounce any intention of watching the Warriors with you in charge.

How bad does it have to get for Mr Feckin Bean Robinson to get sacked. The SRU will no doubt extend his contact to RWC 2019 after that - they promoted Bell End Townsend after last week.

FFS ROBINSON DO THE RIGHT THING FOR ONCE that was the worst ever-ever ferchisakes

Nick Mallet was just saying AR is digging his own grave by saying wins are the only thing he counts.

He thinks AR should rather have taken the approach of admitting that he is doing the best he can with the limited number of players available in scotland.

what do the scottish supporters think, does he have a point?

5 mins to go lineout in Italy 22, 4 points in it.

Italy line up for lineout

Scotland arrive 30 secs later.

what is going on ?

confidence is totally shot

OK, having poured myself the world's largest gin and tonic (pint glass, six shots and a whole lemon), I'm going to say what I thought would be unsayable:

Robinson's time is up.

Robinson is doing neither.

He isn't winning (obviously) and he's doing a dreadful job of bringing through new young players. The new crew only get picked when incumbents get injured. He doesn't pick on form, and he seems to have no idea of building combinations.

I'm pleased Nick Mallett is taking an interest. I have a job for him!!

IanBru wrote:OK, having poured myself the world's largest gin and tonic (pint glass, six shots and a whole lemon), I'm going to say what I thought would be unsayable:

Robinson's time is up.

It's never too late mate. And we accept all-comers whenever they choose

Pass the drink btw.

funnyExiledScot wrote:Robinson is doing neither.

He isn't winning (obviously) and he's doing a dreadful job of bringing through new young players. The new crew only get picked when incumbents get injured. He doesn't pick on form, and he seems to have no idea of building combinations.

I'm pleased Nick Mallett is taking an interest. I have a job for him!!

I used all my +1s on a thread a long while back, can't even remember on what, but you can have a metaphysical one.

People gave honest opinions before, during and they will after the 6 Nations, about how such a poor side they are and we got strung up.

Played 5 lost 5, all those who got hounded on this forum for being honest were proven right, good players led by a useless coach. The players are not motivated and don't seem to have a clue what their game plan is.

No wonder andy Robinsons aim is to play loads of Tier B countries because at this rate they won;t beat ANY 6 Nations or Tri Nations teams for a while.

AlynDavies wrote:People gave honest opinions before, during and they will after the 6 Nations, about how such a poor side they are and we got strung up.

Played 5 lost 5, all those who got hounded on this forum for being honest were proven right, good players led by a useless coach. The players are not motivated and don't seem to have a clue what their game plan is.

No wonder andy Robinsons aim is to play loads of Tier B countries because at this rate they won;t beat ANY 6 Nations or Tri Nations teams for a while.

As a community, we Scotland fans line up to the rest of the Welsh, English, Irish and other fans and say to you "go ahead. Discuss how bad we are to your heart's content. We know. We're drinking it off. But dammit," we say, "we will be back"

PS Schizoid, bit harsh on Ford. I can understand your attack on Robinson, although not to my tastes language wise, but I wouldn't start taking it out on a player who's actually been pretty good for the rest of the tournament!

Lack of ideas in attack. (Coaches' fault)

Poor decision making - kicking for points when we should go for touch, kicking for touch when we should tap and go. (Ford's fault)

Discipline - 5 yellow cards in the tournament, all for STUPID, UNNECESSARY offences, even after being warned. Giving away loads of other penalties at the breakdown (Everyone's fault).

Not supporting the ball carrier (only Blair went with Kellock in that last attack there, of course they were going to lose the ball) and not securing at the breakdown leaving the scrum half vulnerable to counter rucking. (Coaches' fault imo)

Unbelievable change in the lineout from the first three games to the last two. (Ford's fault but tbh still think he's our best hooker, needs to get his confidence back)

Would have been totally undeserved if we'd ended up winning that game, although Italy were not good.

I know it's awkward now the new assistant coaches have been appointed, but there's no way Robinson can stay now.

We din't even try to play in the right areas, not enough kicking by Laidlaw to get us down the park. Denton obviously feeling the pressure with captaincy and his throwing was P Poor.


Oh why E.G. was not Weir playing as many have suggested before the game and even Jackson would have probably kicked us into their territory.

AR game plan just did not work! Here we go again.

The only players emerging with credit for me were Blair and rennie who both played extremely well. Denton, Welsh and hogg were good, the rest awful.

KickandChase,

oh is that right? Ford was a disgrace as a captain but even worse as a player today. Did we win ball at any lineout today? Christ I would rather have Lawson on the field. Robinson is so feckin clueless he takes off our best player , by a distance -R Gray- and dim wit Hamilton gets carded. I will despise Robinson Townsend and the entire SRU for the rest of my days and will not give them another penny of my hard earned. Would be surprised if anyone else does after that display tbh

ROBINSON MUST GO-NOW

Well I can't disagree with your last point!! Petition anyone?

I am so happy


. Sorry drunk

Denton's throwing. FFS what game were you watching Denton was No 8 123 skitters whatever.! He may as well have thrown tbh such was the utter incomepetence of T8T Ford

Interesting question. At the start of this there was a feeling Scotland were a better team than Eng, and rightly so given the scratch nature of Eng and Eng somehow scraping a win in the first ever game together up in the frozen north.

Since then Eng have improved significantly in every game and Scotland haven't progressed.

Are Eng a better side now? or are Scotland a good side poorly led?

and if that's the case, does that not mean Lancaster has to become coach of Eng and AR has to go as he has simply proven himself not good enough again?

Scotland have some decent players, but they have no confidence or game-plan. As an England fan, they remind me of England under... AR. Notice the common thread there? Get rid of him asap, bring in a proper coach who knows what he's doing. Hogg, Evans, Laidlaw, Blair, Denton, Rennie, Gray, Ford are all good players, but today's performance was disastrous. In fact, Scotland seem to have gone backwards as the tournament went on (not saying they were great against England, but they created opportunities, today they never looked like scoring).

Scotland didnt deserve the wooden spoon. They should have beaten England. They were excellent against Wales and against France they should have won. When I watch Scotland I see the same problems with wales in 2003. They have a clearly talented bunch of players espescially forwards, they were the better team against England could have done better agsint the Welsh if it wasnt for yellows. I dont know if sacking Robinson is the answer, Scott Johnsons arrival will be good, despite my antipathy towards him after the Ospreys I think as an attack coach he has few peers. Scotlands forward play is excellent, they have a great back row and a future lions no 8 its just the backs.

If not Robinson though who? the contenders for the English job arent going to apply and there are no standout scottish options to step in. I think Robinson for another year and see how SJ improves your attack. He will get you scoring tries.

Guys,

not only is Robinson's coaching suspect his selections border on the incredulously inept. If there was a game plan yesterday and bearing in mind Laidlaw has no kicking game then why FFS did he have Jackson on the bench when Weir - a better all round player with a good kicking game and in form and does not get injured, was not even in the 30 named. Having the talentless Cuthbert on the bench was also bizarre in the extreme and really smacks of Bath cronyism gone haywire. Far better back options at Edinburgh and Glasgow.
Truly depressing times for Scottish rugby when we thought the SRU had turned the corner - then the Townsend bombshell/lunacy - again to keep nice wee (but incompetent) Gregor in a job. Robinson denies he was behind it but he must at least have been asked. All the above will drive people away from rugby throughout Scotland. Watch this space !

The fact it took Chunk getting injured in the warm up to get John Welsh onto the park sums up Robinson for me, for all the problems we had yesterday scrummaging was not one of them,

gmclachl wrote:The fact it took Chunk getting injured in the warm up to get John Welsh onto the park sums up Robinson for me, for all the problems we had yesterday scrummaging was not one of them,

....and yet, with the scrum actually holding up, he replaced Cross, lively around the park, with an off-form Murray.

I don't usually like Mondays, but Robinson could really perk me up tomorrow. Resign. Please.

fES,

he will not resign as this man is not only a hopeless coach but also someone completely lacking in integrity and self respect. Viz his embarrassing handling of the Parks affair, his role in Townsends inexplicable promotion and Lineen's demise and Jackson and Cuthbert's whirlwind promotion into matchday 22s. Dreadful individual who cannot be trusted. However none in the SRU have any integrity/spine either so he will stay.

Depressing times I'm afraid gents !