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Stat's 6N team and B&I Lions XV
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HEALTH WARNING: IF YOU LIKE YOUR STATS RAW, THEN THIS IS THE PLACE FOR YOU!
Based on the compiled statistics, I thought I'd see what the stats are telling us about who the best players were in each position from this season's 6Ns championship and then reflect on what the stats are suggesting for a B&I Lions starting XV were it selected on effort in the 2012 6Ns.
STATISTICALLY THE BEST OF THE 6NS:
15. Halfpenny (W) - honourable mention Kearney (Ire)
14. Bowe (Ire) - honourable mention North (W)
13. J Davies (W) - honourable mention Rougerie (F)
12. Fofana (F)
11. Cuthbert (W) - honourable mention Malzieu (F)
10. Priestland (W) - honourable mentions Sexton (Ire) & Trinh-Duc (F)
9. Phillips (W)
1. Jenkins (W)
2. Ford (S) - honourable mentions Best (Ire) & Hartley (E)
3. A Jones (W)
4. I Evans (W)
5. Gray (S)
6. Croft (E)
7. Rennie (S)
8. Parisse (Ita) - honourable mentions Denton (S), Faletau (W), Morgan (E)
Where the stats were close, I've given honourable mentions to the other contenders. Bear in mind that this ignores units, leadership skills and the many other attributes that are simply not measurable in a meaningful way. 8 Welshmen, 3 Scots (who says I'm not biased, but the stats never lie! ), 1 Englishman, 1 Irishman, 1 Frenchman and 1 Italian
STATISTICALLY THE CURRENT B&I LIONS:
15. Halfpenny (W) - honourable mention Kearney (Ire)
14. Bowe (Ire) - honourable mention North (W)
13. J Davies (W)
12. Barritt (E) for his tackling or Roberts (W) for his running with ball in hand - eaksy-peaksy
11. Cuthbert (W) -
10. Priestland (W) - honourable mention Sexton (Ire)
9. Phillips (W)
1. Jenkins (W)
2. Ford (S) - honourable mentions Best (Ire) & Hartley (E)
3. A Jones (W)
4. I Evans (W)
5. Gray (S)
6. Croft (E)
7. Rennie (S)
8. take your pick from Denton (S), Faletau (W), or Morgan (E) - statistically too close to call at high confidence intervals
Still heavily Welsh loaded, reflecting their worthy success in the 6Ns
Credit: espnscrum.com
The detailed series (see earlier threads for a full intro):
Team stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26301-don-t-read-any-further-if-you-don-t-like-stats-6ns-team-summary
Front row stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26376-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-front-row
Second row stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26386-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-boiler-room
Back row stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26392-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-back-row
Half-back stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26427-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-half-backs
The midfield's stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26432-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-midfield
The back three's stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26440-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-back-three
HEALTH WARNING: IF YOU LIKE YOUR STATS RAW, THEN THIS IS THE PLACE FOR YOU!
Based on the compiled statistics, I thought I'd see what the stats are telling us about who the best players were in each position from this season's 6Ns championship and then reflect on what the stats are suggesting for a B&I Lions starting XV were it selected on effort in the 2012 6Ns.
STATISTICALLY THE BEST OF THE 6NS:
15. Halfpenny (W) - honourable mention Kearney (Ire)
14. Bowe (Ire) - honourable mention North (W)
13. J Davies (W) - honourable mention Rougerie (F)
12. Fofana (F)
11. Cuthbert (W) - honourable mention Malzieu (F)
10. Priestland (W) - honourable mentions Sexton (Ire) & Trinh-Duc (F)
9. Phillips (W)
1. Jenkins (W)
2. Ford (S) - honourable mentions Best (Ire) & Hartley (E)
3. A Jones (W)
4. I Evans (W)
5. Gray (S)
6. Croft (E)
7. Rennie (S)
8. Parisse (Ita) - honourable mentions Denton (S), Faletau (W), Morgan (E)
Where the stats were close, I've given honourable mentions to the other contenders. Bear in mind that this ignores units, leadership skills and the many other attributes that are simply not measurable in a meaningful way. 8 Welshmen, 3 Scots (who says I'm not biased, but the stats never lie! ), 1 Englishman, 1 Irishman, 1 Frenchman and 1 Italian
STATISTICALLY THE CURRENT B&I LIONS:
15. Halfpenny (W) - honourable mention Kearney (Ire)
14. Bowe (Ire) - honourable mention North (W)
13. J Davies (W)
12. Barritt (E) for his tackling or Roberts (W) for his running with ball in hand - eaksy-peaksy
11. Cuthbert (W) -
10. Priestland (W) - honourable mention Sexton (Ire)
9. Phillips (W)
1. Jenkins (W)
2. Ford (S) - honourable mentions Best (Ire) & Hartley (E)
3. A Jones (W)
4. I Evans (W)
5. Gray (S)
6. Croft (E)
7. Rennie (S)
8. take your pick from Denton (S), Faletau (W), or Morgan (E) - statistically too close to call at high confidence intervals
Still heavily Welsh loaded, reflecting their worthy success in the 6Ns
Credit: espnscrum.com
The detailed series (see earlier threads for a full intro):
Team stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26301-don-t-read-any-further-if-you-don-t-like-stats-6ns-team-summary
Front row stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26376-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-front-row
Second row stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26386-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-boiler-room
Back row stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26392-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-back-row
Half-back stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26427-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-half-backs
The midfield's stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26432-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-midfield
The back three's stats: https://www.606v2.com/t26440-stat-alert-player-summaries-from-6ns-the-back-three
Last edited by AsLongAsBut100ofUs on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:26 pm; edited 1 time in total
AsLongAsBut100ofUs- Posts : 14129
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Re: Stat's 6N team and B&I Lions XV
I was being polite and respectful for once
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yappysnap wrote:Would you care to do a team of shame ASBO with the tournaments worst performers in it?
Is this players or psoters :-)
R!skysports- Posts : 3667
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You'd be better saying Scotland without Ford, Gray and Denton.
Honourable mentions to Blair, ad give the benefit of the doubt to Jones, Hogg and Laidlaw who all scored tries in their 6N debut seasons.
The rest of the team are no doubt favourites for contention.
Honourable mentions to Blair, ad give the benefit of the doubt to Jones, Hogg and Laidlaw who all scored tries in their 6N debut seasons.
The rest of the team are no doubt favourites for contention.
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I think there would be a few French Italian and Englishmen who'd give you Scots a run for your money as well...
Risky if it was posters we could probably make a whole B&I touring party!
Risky if it was posters we could probably make a whole B&I touring party!
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Rennie too?RuggerRadge2611 wrote:You'd be better saying Scotland without Ford, Gray and Denton.
Honourable mentions to Blair, ad give the benefit of the doubt to Jones, Hogg and Laidlaw who all scored tries in their 6N debut seasons.
The rest of the team are no doubt favourites for contention.
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AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Rennie too?RuggerRadge2611 wrote:You'd be better saying Scotland without Ford, Gray and Denton.
Honourable mentions to Blair, ad give the benefit of the doubt to Jones, Hogg and Laidlaw who all scored tries in their 6N debut seasons.
The rest of the team are no doubt favourites for contention.
Aye,
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"STATISTICALLY THE CURRENT B&I LIONS:
.....
10. Priestland (W)
9. Phillips (W)"
Please God no.
.....
10. Priestland (W)
9. Phillips (W)"
Please God no.
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Re: Stat's 6N team and B&I Lions XV
Cracking post Asbo my boy.
Thanks to the mods for dealing with the remedial class gomers rocking back and forth until someone unties their 'special' white jacket and they can use the keyboard again.
Interesting that the stats also back up my thoughts about the positions that are very close to call (15 and 8) but there are still some surprises in there - Barritt at 12 and Cuthbert over North.
Thanks to the mods for dealing with the remedial class gomers rocking back and forth until someone unties their 'special' white jacket and they can use the keyboard again.
Interesting that the stats also back up my thoughts about the positions that are very close to call (15 and 8) but there are still some surprises in there - Barritt at 12 and Cuthbert over North.
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