Euro 2012 Fantasy League

by Marky Mon 02 Apr 2012, 12:47 pm

First topic message reminder :

Congratulations to ncfc_Tooze and Germany! See you at World Cup 2014...

Week 6
Final - Germany 2-1 Italy (Ozil, Klinsmann) (Balotelli)

Spoiler:

Group A
Poland - sodhat
Greece - King Beer
Russia - TSC
Czech Republic - Crimey

Group B
Netherlands - Twist
Denmark - TBC
Germany - ncfc_Tooze
Portugal - Hero

Group C
Spain - GG
Italy - ollyrules
Republic of Ireland - Dicey Reilly
Croatia - Marky

Group D
Ukraine - Gav
Sweden - TheBrahmaBull
France - cherriesfan
England - Kamran

If you're struggling to find players for your squad, use www.transfermarkt.co.uk and search for players from your country, it should give you several options for your squad.

Each country is allowed to call up a maximum of FOUR legends from days gone by (seeing as it's a fantasy tournament).

The definite rule on Legends.

Players who are currently still active can be called up as legends, but it will take up one of your 4 legends spaces. Also the four legends in your squad must be labelled as legends to signify they are your four legends in their prime. I agree that it might be better if it was purely players who had retired, but I will leave the rule open so anyone could choose someone from years gone by or recent times. It widens the pool of players to be honest.

For example, Thierry Henry would be the guy running around the MLS, but Thierry Henry (Legend) would be the guy in his prime at Arsenal. And no, you can't have two of the same player (one as legend and one as normal) as that would be stupid.

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:24 am

Gav wrote:Im with Beer on this one.
shevchenko isn't in the main squad for Ukraine, but is eligible for call up as he is still playing domestic football. I dont think it would be fair to have the Chev of before his Chelsea days when he was banging them in for Milan every week.

Why not?
So if a player retired last year then you can do what you want with them as a legend as a 28 year old god.
If a player is due to retire at the end of this season then you're stuck with a 39 year old who's a shadow of his former self?
Rolling Eyes

by President Trump Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:24 am

Sort it out Marky Laugh

if Henry isnt counted as a legend then I have another one to pick and Franch have alot to pick from Very Happy

by Guest Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:24 am

It comes down to the definition of "Legend"
I would define it as someone retired from domestic & international football.

by Guest Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:26 am

Hero wrote:
Gav wrote:Im with Beer on this one.
shevchenko isn't in the main squad for Ukraine, but is eligible for call up as he is still playing domestic football. I dont think it would be fair to have the Chev of before his Chelsea days when he was banging them in for Milan every week.

Why not?
So if a player retired last year then you can do what you want with them as a legend as a 28 year old god.
If a player is due to retire at the end of this season then you're stuck with a 39 year old who's a shadow of his former self?

If anything it should be me petitioning for this as I have no legends and would benefit from a prime Shev. But I dont think its fair. Legends should be retired from the game all together.

by Beer Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:27 am

Hero wrote:Why not though, Raul is a legend, Henry is, Carvahlo is.
Why should they not be considered just because they're still playing?
What if you have a player that then comes out of retirement in your rules of legends ala Scholes?
Do you then lose him?
Surely just allow people to have whichever 4 guys as legends as long as they at somepoint played for that country?

No, that would be an exception and be treated as such.

The whole point of legends was to mix it up, see a German team with Beckenbauer in it. Bobby Moore alongside John Terry.

If a player is still playing then they are still eligible for their country and therefore not considered to have legend status. That's how i think it should be.

It's Marky who decides anyway.

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:30 am

So its fine to have the rest of the great French team of Thuram, Vieira and Zidane
But not Henry?
It really makes no sense.

by Marky Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:32 am

The definite rule.

Players who are currently still active can be called up as legends, but it will take up one of your 4 legends spaces. Also the four legends in your squad must be labelled as legends to signify they are your four legends in their prime. I agree that it might be better if it was purely players who had retired, but I will leave the rule open so anyone could choose someone from years gone by or recent times. It widens the pool of players to be honest.

For example, Thierry Henry would be the guy running around the MLS, but Thierry Henry (Legend) would be the guy in his prime at Arsenal. And no, you can't have two of the same player (one as legend and one as normal) as that would be stupid.

by Beer Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:34 am

Hero wrote:So its fine to have the rest of the great French team of Thuram, Vieira and Zidane
But not Henry?
It really makes no sense.

Thuram, Viera, Petit, Zindane, Lizarazu, Blanc, Papin, Platini, Barthez, Kopa, Fontaine, Deschamps, Desailly.

Plenty of legends who have retired.

One player doesn't change the rules.

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:34 am

Marky wrote:The definite rule.

Players who are currently still active can be called up as legends, but it will take up one of your 4 legends spaces. Also the four legends in your squad must be labelled as legends to signify they are your four legends in their prime. I agree that it might be better if it was purely players who had retired, but I will leave the rule open so anyone could choose someone from years gone by or recent times. It widens the pool of players to be honest.

For example, Thierry Henry would be the guy running around the MLS, but Thierry Henry (Legend) would be the guy in his prime at Arsenal. And no, you can't have two of the same player (one as legend and one as normal) as that would be stupid.

by Guest Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:35 am

Shev from Milan it is then!
The boss has spoken and so it came to pass

by President Trump Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:44 am

French squad up, so hard to pick just 4 legends but I think I picked the right ones if not...meh

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:45 am

No Cantona.
Shame on you.

by Beer Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:46 am

Meh, he never excelled for France.

No Ginola? The Spurs legend!?

Shame on you.

by President Trump Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:47 am

I was going to but there were better options Very Happy

by President Trump Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:48 am

I am gutted about Ginola Cry

by kamran Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:50 am

Struggling to find English legends.

So far Moore, Gazza, Robson, Hoddle, Shearer...

Beardsley, Barnes, Adams?

by sodhat Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:51 am

Any glaring omissions from the Dutch squad anybody? I'm sure I've missed something somewhere.

by Beer Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:53 am

kamran wrote:Struggling to find English legends.

So far Moore, Gazza, Robson, Hoddle, Shearer...

Beardsley, Barnes, Adams?

Charlton? Matthews? Linekar? Shilton? Butcher?

by Marky Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:55 am

As long as Frank De Boer is there sodhat then you've done fine thumbsup

English legends, i'd say Stuart Pearce at LB, Bryan Robson in midfield, and Teddy Sheringham should be considered.

by sodhat Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:56 am

No Frank De Boer I'm afraid. I went for Jaap Stam at the back instead because I saw more of him. I could have had Koeman or Rijkaard as well but I reckon Stam will be rated.

by Beer Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:56 am

Matt Le Tissier?

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:57 am

kamran wrote:Struggling to find English legends.

So far Moore, Gazza, Robson, Hoddle, Shearer...

Beardsley, Barnes, Adams?

Charlton, Banks, Beckham, Keegan, Edwards, Greaves, Lineker, Scholes?

by kamran Tue 03 Apr 2012, 10:59 am

Thanks guys thumbsup

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:00 am

sodhat wrote:No Frank De Boer I'm afraid. I went for Jaap Stam at the back instead because I saw more of him. I could have had Koeman or Rijkaard as well but I reckon Stam will be rated.

Surprised you didn't have MVB.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:01 am

kamran wrote:Struggling to find English legends.

So far Moore, Gazza, Robson, Hoddle, Shearer...

Beardsley, Barnes, Adams?

Duncan Edwards

by Beer Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:01 am

Hero wrote:
sodhat wrote:No Frank De Boer I'm afraid. I went for Jaap Stam at the back instead because I saw more of him. I could have had Koeman or Rijkaard as well but I reckon Stam will be rated.

Surprised you didn't have MVB.

I would've gone for Van Basten over Gullit, and wasn't Gullit a CB?

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:06 am

No Gullit was an AM ( a fantastic one at that)
Holland have such a fantastic list of past players.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:08 am

Man I need to do my Italy squad
When do they have to be done by???

by sodhat Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:09 am

King Beer wrote:
Hero wrote:
sodhat wrote:No Frank De Boer I'm afraid. I went for Jaap Stam at the back instead because I saw more of him. I could have had Koeman or Rijkaard as well but I reckon Stam will be rated.

Surprised you didn't have MVB.

I would've gone for Van Basten over Gullit, and wasn't Gullit a CB?

Thing was I would normally take van Basten anytime, but with van Persie having the season he is and having Huntelaar able to back him up as an out and out striker I thought I'd take more or a secondary striker in Bergkamp.

Gullit moved further back through his career but I'd intend to play him CM/AM.

by GG Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:12 am

Ronald Koeman for Holland surely?

by sodhat Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:13 am

Seriously considered but behind Stam for me. I have plenty of alternative free kick takers Whistle

by kamran Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:15 am

Never seen Duncan Edwards play whatsoever

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:18 am

Neither have I but he according to Bobby Charlton he was the best football player he has ever played with or against and the only one to make him feel inferior

by Marky Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:19 am

To be honest olly no-one would be able to rate him as no-one here has ever seen him play.

Bobby Charlton's opinion might be worth a lot, but it's not the same as seeing someone for yourself.

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:19 am

Portuguese legends?

Eusebio should be a cert, top 10 of all time player but would he be rated as has anyone ever seen him play?

by Beer Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:24 am

Hero wrote:Portuguese legends?

Eusebio should be a cert, top 10 of all time player but would he be rated as has anyone ever seen him play?

Just on reptuation alone!

Figo? Bento? Couto? Pauleta?

by GG Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:26 am

Spain have hardly any good legends Sad

Hero, you've got a few good uns, Figo, Rui Costa, Joao Pinto...

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:27 am

GG wrote:Spain have hardly any good legends

Hero, you've got a few good uns, Figo, Rui Costa, Joao Pinto...

Yeah fortunately for you Spain's 'legends' are the current team.

by The Special Juan Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:28 am

TSC wrote:Am I allowed Soviet Union legends?

by GG Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:29 am

Hero wrote:
GG wrote:Spain have hardly any good legends

Hero, you've got a few good uns, Figo, Rui Costa, Joao Pinto...

Yeah fortunately for you Spain's 'legends' are the current team.

More than makes up for it. Very Happy

At least I've got Hierro to sure up the defence.

by kamran Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:30 am

Rui Costa?

Germany have some fantastic legends

Brehme, Voeller, Beckenbauer, Hassler, Mattias, Sammer, Moeller and even Ballack. Top class players

by sodhat Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:30 am

GG wrote:Spain have hardly any good legends

Guardiola is a good one. Hierro, Morientes? The best of all would be Di Stefano

by sodhat Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:32 am

Hero wrote:Portuguese legends?

Eusebio should be a cert, top 10 of all time player but would he be rated as has anyone ever seen him play?

I'd rate him, he scored me loads of goals on PES!

I also bought the 'Football's Greatest' DVD set which features him.

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:33 am

TSC wrote:
TSC wrote:Am I allowed Soviet Union legends?

Gonna be a tough one to call on that.
Marky has Croatia so has the same problem!

by The Special Juan Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:36 am

Yeah, if any team was part of Yugoslavia that'll be tough on them. Comrades.

by GG Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:40 am

sodhat wrote:
GG wrote:Spain have hardly any good legends

Guardiola is a good one. Hierro, Morientes? The best of all would be Di Stefano

Pretty sure Di Stefano was Argentinian? Would've had him otherwise. Got Hierro, Raul, Zubizarreta and Raul atm. No point in Pep as I doubt he would get a game anyway.

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:40 am

Good job Serbia or Bosnia aren't also at the Euros. Could have started a v2 Balkan war over Yugo players.

by **Hero** Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:41 am

GG wrote:
sodhat wrote:
GG wrote:Spain have hardly any good legends

Guardiola is a good one. Hierro, Morientes? The best of all would be Di Stefano

Pretty sure Di Stefano was Argentinian? Would've had him otherwise. Got Hierro, Raul, Zubizarreta and Raul atm. No point in Pep as I doubt he would get a game anyway.

Stefano played for Argentina, Colombia and Spain

by sodhat Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:43 am

GG wrote:
sodhat wrote:
GG wrote:Spain have hardly any good legends

Guardiola is a good one. Hierro, Morientes? The best of all would be Di Stefano

Pretty sure Di Stefano was Argentinian? Would've had him otherwise. Got Hierro, Raul, Zubizarreta and Raul atm. No point in Pep as I doubt he would get a game anyway.

That was back in the days when you could play for more than one nation - he was capped by Spain so I'd say you can take him.

by The Special Juan Tue 03 Apr 2012, 11:45 am

I can hear the tanks now...

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