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Post by BlueMuff Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

Well what a difference a few days make. Leinster stroll past Munster in Thomond, Ulster cruise past Airioni and now definitely fancy their chances on Sunday and rightly so.

My Munster team if players available would be

1. Wian Du Preez
2. Mike Sheery
3. BJ
4. DOC1
5. POC
6. DR
7. POM
8. Coughlan
9. Murray
10. ROG
11. ZEBO
12. Maifi
13. Earls
14. Hurley
15. Jones

Pretty much picks itself bar hooker and back row. Line out was just so bad that Varley has to pay the price. May not have been all his fault but Sherry has been knocking on the door and deserves a shot at this level.

DOC2 had a solid game but I think the partnership of POC and DOC should stand us well. DR to the back row.

Rodders Ulster team

15 Terblanche
14 Trimble
13 Cave
12 Wallace
11 Gilroy
10 IHumph
9 Pienaar
8 Wannenburg
6 Diack
7 Henry
5 Touhy
4 Muller
3 Afoa
2 Best
1 Court



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Post by rodders Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:31 pm

red_stag wrote:
"hey look a semi decent Antipodean/African player"

Where where????!...... a feic he plays for Munster.... Run


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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:32 pm

Munster v Ulster Squad: Johne Murphy, Ian Keatley, Tomas O’Leary, Felix Jones, Denis Hurley, Keith Earls, Lifeimi Mafi, Simon Zebo, Ronan O’Gara, Conor Murray, Danny Barnes, Duncan Williams, Scott Deasy, David Wallace, Donnacha O’Callaghan, Stephen Archer, Marcus Horan, Damien Varley, James Coughlan, Tommy O’Donnell, Peter O’Mahony, Paul O’Connell, Donnacha Ryan, BJ Botha, Mike Sherry, Wian Du Preez, Mick O’Driscoll, Billy Holland, John Ryan, Denis Fogarty.
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Post by rodders Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:34 pm

Jeebus I hope TOL plays, that way I have time to pop to the bar every time Munster have an attacking ruck....... Whistle
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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:35 pm

Hoping to see:

01 Wian du Preez
02 Damien Varley
03 BJ Botha
04 Donnacha O'Callaghan
05 Paul O'Connell
06 Donnacha Ryan
07 Peter O'Mahony
08 James Coughlan
09 Conor Murray
10 Ronan O'Gara
11 Simon Zebo
12 Lifeimi Mafi
13 Keith Earls
14 Denis Hurley
15 Felix Jones

16 Mike Sherry
17 Marcus Horan
18 Stephen Archer
19 Mick O'Driscoll
20 David Wallace
21 Tomas O'Leary
22 Ian Keatley
23 Johne Murphy

R John Ryan
R Denis Fogarty
R Billy Holland
R Tommy O'Donnell
R Duncan Williams
R Scott Deasy
R Danny Barnes


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Post by Don Alfonso Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:36 pm

So you think playing Paddy Wallace is a good thing, Stag? Good on you - he is the best 12 in Ireland, after all. Of those provinces that care to try and contribute, anyway - obviously I'm aware that you guys have O'Mafi.

And the Grand Slam was won by those players despite, not because of, Kidney.

Anyway, there are two Ulstermen coaching teams in the final eight of the HEC. There's only one Munsterman. Next season, there'll be none.

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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:38 pm

Don - joking aside I actually do like Paddy Wallace.
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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:42 pm

BTW you may have notice that from the 30 players named in the squad 27 are Irish.
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Post by Don Alfonso Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:50 pm

I think he's a brilliant player, but I would be willing to concede that I don't think he's ever delivered what he's capable of at international level. I don’t know why – maybe because he’s only been there to give Darcy a break, and he knows it?

I wish fans of other provinces wouldn't try to turn him into a scape-goat, though, at the drop of a hat. It's telling that there was infinitely more vitriol aimed at Paddy for giving away a last minute penalty against Wales, in a game we won, during our Grand Slam, than there was when Ferris gave away a last minute penalty in the Wales game this year, which we lost, effectively ruling out a Grand Slam.

A lot of people don’t like Paddy regardless of what he does or contributes, it seems.


As for 27 of your 30 being Irish - I don't care. It just affirms to me that your tax break incentive is working. € € €

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Post by Wild Rover Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:52 pm

Hopefully Don he uses that as motivation to turn over Munster at the weekend

I'd guess if he does turn in a match winning performance even fewer Munster fans will like him after this weekend

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Post by Kingshu Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:53 pm

Come on it Turnips V Ulster Fry's only ever one winner, it's the best in Ireland

you choose

Ulster Fry
Dublin Bay prawn sandwich eating brigade
Galway osyters
or
Turnips.


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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:57 pm

We have Frys all over Ireland.
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Post by Thomond Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:57 pm

Don Alfonso wrote:I think he's a brilliant player, but I would be willing to concede that I don't think he's ever delivered what he's capable of at international level. I don’t know why – maybe because he’s only been there to give Darcy a break, and he knows it?

I wish fans of other provinces wouldn't try to turn him into a scape-goat, though, at the drop of a hat. It's telling that there was infinitely more vitriol aimed at Paddy for giving away a last minute penalty against Wales, in a game we won, during our Grand Slam, than there was when Ferris gave away a last minute penalty in the Wales game this year, which we lost, effectively ruling out a Grand Slam.

A lot of people don’t like Paddy regardless of what he does or contributes, it seems.


As for 27 of your 30 being Irish - I don't care. It just affirms to me that your tax break incentive is working. € € €

TOL gets similar flack despite the fact he hasn't been that poor this year (leaving aside the England game)

We need a name for the game. The "Tussle in Thomond" , maybe. I thought of something that would probably pish off half the people on here but I'm going to post it. If people are offended I will get rid of it.

The "Orange" Bowl

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Post by Kingshu Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:59 pm

Wild Rover wrote:Hopefully Don he uses that as motivation to turn over Munster at the weekend

I'd guess if he does turn in a match winning performance even fewer Munster fans will like him after this weekend

I said on an earlier post and it's worth repeating, but Tom Court came in for some serious critacism after the England game.

Since then he's been really brooding, and in games has a face like thunder, I honestly would be scared to even be near him at the moment.

I think he's really really wanting to have a good game to show the southern press than he's actually a decent player, I don't think there will be a step back from him in the scrum or anywhere round the pitch.

He's like a man possesed at the minute and has a point to prove, and Thomond is the stage to prove it.

I expect a standout game from Court.

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Post by Don Alfonso Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:00 pm

... in deference to the winning team?

No offence at all, Thomond - quite big of you, I think.

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Post by Thomond Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:01 pm

We need a name for it all big events have names such as:


Thrilla in Manilla
Rumble in the Jungle
Greatest Show on Turf
Miracle Match

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Post by Wild Rover Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:03 pm

the only thing about that king is that he will be up against Botha in the scrum so i expect he could struggle in this department but i totally agree that he needs and is more than capable of putting in a big performance to get the Southern media to give the bloke a break and give him credit when its deserved!

his try at the weekend showed a hunger i haven't seen for a while

hopefully he proves us right

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Post by rodders Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:03 pm

Thomond wrote:
The "Orange" Bowl

Could you elaborate on that one Thomond?... Laugh
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Post by Kingshu Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:04 pm

red_stag wrote:We have Frys all over Ireland.

An Ulster Fry is a dish similar to an Irish fry only better. There isn't a Munster fry that I'm aware of.

To save time I'll add a Munster fry would be 97% Irish pork while an Ulster fry includes large portions of Biltong. Very Happy


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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:05 pm

Don Alfonso wrote:I think he's a brilliant player, but I would be willing to concede that I don't think he's ever delivered what he's capable of at international level. I don’t know why – maybe because he’s only been there to give Darcy a break, and he knows it?

I wish fans of other provinces wouldn't try to turn him into a scape-goat, though, at the drop of a hat. It's telling that there was infinitely more vitriol aimed at Paddy for giving away a last minute penalty against Wales, in a game we won, during our Grand Slam, than there was when Ferris gave away a last minute penalty in the Wales game this year, which we lost, effectively ruling out a Grand Slam.

A lot of people don’t like Paddy regardless of what he does or contributes, it seems.


As for 27 of your 30 being Irish - I don't care. It just affirms to me that your tax break incentive is working. € € €

Don I really like Paddy Wallace but IMO he joins the likes of James Coughlan and Shane Jennings as a top club player who couldnt quite make internationally.

You yourself admit that he has never delivered for Ireland - I certainly dont buy that he knew he was only a replacement and couldnt motivate himself. A top player would have earned the right to be in first team.

However he is very likeable and does very well for Ulster.
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Post by Sin é Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:08 pm

Kingshu wrote:
Wild Rover wrote:Hopefully Don he uses that as motivation to turn over Munster at the weekend

I'd guess if he does turn in a match winning performance even fewer Munster fans will like him after this weekend

I said on an earlier post and it's worth repeating, but Tom Court came in for some serious critacism after the England game.

Hook criticised him a bit before the England game. But any criticism of him for the England game it was usually said it wasn't his fault, but he wasn't a tighthead.
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Post by Don Alfonso Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:10 pm

What all nicknames are there for Thomond (Park, not the poster)?

We do need a catchy title.

"The Handover"...?

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Post by rodders Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:11 pm

Anyone else think Trimble is due a big game??

He had a decent 6N but didn't hit top form, wasn't brilliant last week either.

I think he'll produce a big one against Zebo, who he spoke very highly about recently. He'll be keen to put a marker down against a man hunting his Irish jersey.

This will be a stormer I think! Both sides will be seriously fired up!

If anything I'm worried about the foreign guys, I'm not sure some of them will be expecting the ferocity that awaits them at Thomond! We'll need the Trimbles, Bests, Henrys etc to meet fire with fire!
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Post by MMC Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:14 pm

Stag, I like the look of your team but would go for the following myself:

01 Wian du Preez
02 Mike Sherry
03 BJ Botha
04 Donnacha Ryan
05 Paul O'Connell
06 Peter O'Mahony
07 Tommy O'Donnell
08 James Coughlan
09 Conor Murray
10 Ronan O'Gara
11 Simon Zebo
12 Lifeimi Mafi
13 Keith Earls
14 Denis Hurley
15 Felix Jones

16 Damien Varley
17 Marcus Horan
18 Stephen Archer
19 Donnacha O'Callaghan
20 David Wallace
21 Tomas O'Leary
22 Ian Keatley
23 Johne Murphy

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R Denis Fogarty
R Mick O'Driscoll
R Billy Holland
R Duncan Williams
R Scott Deasy
R Danny Barnes
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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:17 pm

I'm a big Mike Sherry fan but think he is best used as an impact sub.

I also think that Ryan at 6 will work a lot better than bringing in O'Donnell.

It gives us way more lineout options and will keep Ulster guessing. Also we have used that combo to good effect this ERC campaign already. Starting O'Donnell ahead of Donnacha Ryan and David Wallace in a quarter final doesnt make sense to me especially when we have O'Mahony as well.
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Post by Kingshu Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:18 pm

So looking forward to this game now,


The battle of Old Cratloe Road

not quite got a ring to it

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:18 pm

Poor Dave O'Callaghan! Think he deserves a shot.

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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:20 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Poor Dave O'Callaghan! Think he deserves a shot.

In a fully fit team theres no room for him. David Wallace, Donnacha Ryan, Peter O'Mahony, James Coughlan and Tommy O'Donnell.
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Post by Wild Rover Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:21 pm

how about the trouncing @ thomond?

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Post by Thomond Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:21 pm

HC 1/4 final isn't a time to give a guya shot unless he has proven he is up to it.

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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:22 pm

Wild - we won't win by THAT much.

Thomond - I agree in full. Had we some big problems then yes but O'Callaghan was in as we were missing guys.
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Post by rodders Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:22 pm

Thomond wrote:We need a name for it all big events have names such as:


Thrilla in Manilla
Rumble in the Jungle
Greatest Show on Turf
Miracle Match

The farce in the park?
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Post by MMC Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:23 pm

Personally I feel that Ryan and POC is the best 2nd row combo we have. O'Mahony is a better 6 than a 7, O'Donnell is the best fit 7 we have available and gives us more balance in the backrow, IMO.

We still have 3 very good L/O options in Ryan, POC and POM there. Having DOC there doesn't really give us another L/O option.
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Post by Mickado Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:26 pm

Anyone else thing that if you look at Thomond in a plan view it looks a little bit like a vagina?

How about the sham in the clam?


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Post by MMC Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:27 pm

For the record I think that McGahan will go with a 4,5,6 of DOC, POC and Ryan.
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Post by MMC Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:27 pm

Laugh Laugh Laugh Mickado! laughing
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Post by Wild Rover Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:29 pm

Mickado wrote:Anyone else thing that if you look at Thomond in a plan view it looks a little bit like a vagina?

How about the sham in the clam?


Mickado you rock thumbsup

I really want to see the headline "ulstermen stuff the clam" on monday morning


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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:30 pm

Mickado wrote:Anyone else thing that if you look at Thomond in a plan view it looks a little bit like a vagina?

How about the sham in the clam?

Unfrickinbelievable!!!! thumbsup
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Post by Thomond Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:30 pm

Post of the year Mick.

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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:35 pm

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Post by MMC Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:36 pm

Looks more like a frog who's a bit high...
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Post by Thomond Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:37 pm

I think we need a bird's eye view Stag.

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Post by Don Alfonso Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:40 pm

Them’s some pretty weird women you’ve know, Mickado.

Besides, there’s no “sham” about it.

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:41 pm

red_stag wrote:
Mickado wrote:Anyone else thing that if you look at Thomond in a plan view it looks a little bit like a vagina?

How about the sham in the clam?

Unfrickinbelievable!!!! thumbsup
Mick. Can I just ask you to promise that your gf will never bend over in front of me to pick something up. I couldn't afford the counselling bills. Shocked

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Post by Wild Rover Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:42 pm

I was thinking the same thing here don

from my experience they are much narrower....
maybe its a northern thing?

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Post by Thomond Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:42 pm

Spoiler:



Mightn't be safe for those of you at work, if you believe Kado Wink

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:49 pm

red_stag wrote:Munster v Ulster - Page 6 4
A fanny with braces?

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Post by Kingshu Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:54 pm

leaving for the day, but will add.

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Post by red_stag Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:55 pm

BURNT ULSTER FRY
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Post by Mickado Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:08 pm

The rough stuff in the tough muff?

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Post by Mickado Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:11 pm

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
red_stag wrote:
Mickado wrote:Anyone else thing that if you look at Thomond in a plan view it looks a little bit like a vagina?

How about the sham in the clam?

Unfrickinbelievable!!!! thumbsup
Mick. Can I just ask you to promise that your gf will never bend over in front of me to pick something up. I couldn't afford the counselling bills. Shocked

Just so we're clear, 26,000 people have not, nor ever will be able to fit inside my m... Better not finish that sentence...

I think I just have vag on the brain, nearly lost me my job as a barber...

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