Brock

Just seen on twitter that he has returned to the wwe.

shame he cut his mma career short but he got to the top so cannot be classes as failure however you look at it.

Old Vince must have got his cheque book out.

Wonder if it will lead to more wrestling/MMA cross overs

I think he knows he's no where near well-rounded enough for the top of MMA.

He'd always be a handful for many with his strength and wrestling but I think he's a guy who will only compete if he's at the top and wouldn't be happy just being a contender or top 10 guy.

He might as well make good money fake fighting than real fighting.

Valero's Conscience wrote:I think he knows he's no where near well-rounded enough for the top of MMA.

He'd always be a handful for many with his strength and wrestling but I think he's a guy who will only compete if he's at the top and wouldn't be happy just being a contender or top 10 guy.

He might as well make good money fake fighting than real fighting.

absolutely. Brock just isn't a world class MMA fighter - he's a world class wrestler and a tough opponent due to his size and strength but he's not got the experience, skillset or patience to be a world class MMA fighter. Brock is out for himself; he didn't get into MMA for the love of the sport, but for the fame and the money. He failed to get into Pro American Football so he turned his hand to MMA, his reputation and size put him into the main event but since his diverticulitus and losing the heavyweight title he knew his time at the top was limited and so quit. Not surprisingly he's returned to the WWE where again he'll be put back into the main event, back into the spotlight and back into the money. WWE fans will no doubt be happy he has returned but I doubt this will lead to any more wrestling/MMA crossovers.

His illness finished him as an mma fighter unfortunately.

Best of luck to him in the WWE. He can get a lot of good tv done there.

[quote="Captain Charisma"]His illness finished him as an mma fighter unfortunately.

Best of luck to him in the WWE. He can get a lot of good tv done there.[/quote]

I disagree, I think it was Carwin (even tho he lost), Cain & Overeem that did it. I think he realised he wasn't good enough & didn't like getting hit, his reaction was to cover up rather than hit back, not the sign of a true fighter. Credit to him for stepping into MMA but to be honest I'm glad to see the back of him. I don't like how he got in due to his name & the cash that it would bring & that he was fast tracked to a title shot. I also think he was a bad loser, didn't really except being subbed by Mir saying that Mir got lucky, "I gave him that & he knows it". I think the fact that he didn't have a good team around him just a lot of yes man & that he didn't look to expand his game, just rely on his size & wrestling shows naivety & a lack of respect for MMA & the fighters that have trained for a long time & in many disciplines. I don't think he'll be remembered for great victories just bad losses.

I wish he didn't come back Tbh I'm more interest in new talent coming through and he's taking a spot.

Props to him on winning the whc but all ill remember him for us getting his ass kicked twice

Its amazing what Brock Lesnar achieved he beat randy coulture, heath herring, shane carwin and frank mir, he was an absolute beast, coming into the UFC with no mma experience and earning his heavyweight title by beating very good fighters. He is of course a poorly rounded fighter but he was an immense physical specimen and a huge competitor. I think we need to give more credit to brock unfortunately his illness curtailed what chance he had of becoming a better rounded fighter and age was never on his side either.

As far as only joining UFC for the big money i don't think that was the issue, he was earning big money in WWE doing something he knew he was good at and was safe doing, coming into MMA was a HUGE risk, he did it cause he's an Alpha male and wanted to prove himself. People have also mentioned he was out for himself....this isn't a team sport surely every fighter is out for themselves ???? Saying that brock mentions his family alot..." Like I said, it's pretty basic: Train, sleep, family, fight. It's my life. I like it." and alot of what he does is to provide for them.

no one can deny Brock was an athletic freak of nature and what he accomplished in the UFC he earnt on his own merit, so more power to the guy. However, Brock didn't get into UFC for the love of MMA. As far as why he went to the UFC rather than staying with the WWE - Brock hated the relentless touring schedule of the WWE, wrestling houseshows and TV shows and PPVs. MMA allowed him to set up a gym near his home where he could spend more time with his family in between fights. Let's not forget too that he went from wrestling to American Football originally, not directly to MMA. He only pursued MMA after he failed to get into the Minnasota Vikings.

We'll never know Brock's true potential as a pro fighter but he's stated before in interviews that he just loved the feeling of laying his fists on another person. I don't necessarily think Brock was too interested in the intricacies and techniques of MMA, just the physicality. And yet despite Brock's size being a definite strength, his inability to defend punches, as well as submissions proved there were many holes in Brock's game that needed plugging for him to have longevity in the sport.

Personally I think Brock could have a fantastic future as a specialist wrestling coach in MMA or collegiate wrestling. He was a coach on TUF so I think its something he could explore. Right now though its clear he still wants to be in the spotlight so has returned to the WWE.

We'll never know Brock's true potential as a pro fighter but he's stated before in interviews that he just loved the feeling of laying his fists on another person. I don't necessarily think Brock was too interested in the intricacies and techniques of MMA, just the physicality. And yet despite Brock's size being a definite strength, his inability to defend punches, as well as submissions proved there were many holes in Brock's game that needed plugging for him to have longevity in the sport.

And for me these are two points against Brock ever becoming a great fighter. He was a great on top/bully style of fighter, but when somebody defended his takedowns , took or blocked his punches & came back with their own he'd cower away & cover up. Had Carwin had better stamina or maybe a different ref in their it would of been over for Brock. Look how easy Cain made it look, & after seeing Overeem take him apart I'm sure JDS would've done the same. As Tim Sylva said the problem with Brock is he doesn't like to get hit, after training with him at the beginning. As is often said fighters are born not made, case in point with Brock. I agree the guy is a great athelete & going back to WWE is probably best for him.