Munster Leinster game this evening

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Anyone strolling down to the RDS for the B&I semi final. Kick off is 6 I think and it's the only spot in Dublin that will be serving pints today.

See guys like O'Dea, JJ O'Hallorahan, Conway, Ruddock and Dominic Ryan are playing so standard should be good enough I reckon

Well he played for dolphin..i suppose he hadn't turned into a turncoat like Cronin, Ross, redden etc

O'Mahoney is not contracted to Leinster. He is contracted to Clontarf (though he is an amateur anyway) so could play for either if he was asked. Seems to have had a great game tonight.

Stag, was he in the Munster Academy?

Im not sure SinE. He was an exceptional schools player - played Munster schools and Ireland schools.

His brother Ronan is in the academy maybe thats who you're thinking of - a decent enough player but unlikely to really "make it". Will also most likely end up a good AIL player.

He is not in the academy. Had to move to Dublin for work

Is a fine player, was in the dolphin backrow along with Coughlan when they were doing well

That would be a good backrow.

Is he the next James Coughlan? He is pretty young still. If he can make it at this level (that was a decent team that Leinster A put out), he should be able to make it at Magners level anyway.

I wonder how Borlase got on?

So is this a "natural" 7 coming up through the ranks? This new O'Mahony..

Rory_Gallagher wrote:So is this a "natural" 7 coming up through the ranks? This new O'Mahony..

Munster have signed Sean Dougall (ex-Ulster academy) next season. He apparently is a 'natural 7'.

Rory, he is actually a bit of a natural 7.

However he is 25 years old and plays for Clontarf in Dublin. I still dont understand how/why he was playing for Munster though I am glad as he is a quality player who I think was more than capable of playing international rugby.

He played in the same team as Rob Kearney, Fergus McFadden, Darren Cave, Devin Toner and Keith Earls. I know he had a particularly good U19 RWC in 2005. Got man of the match against Scotland that year.

Yeah I have seen you mention him a few times. I am interested to see how O'Donnell gets on against us on Sunday as well. Munster seem to have hidden a few "natural" 7s from the rest of the world eh?

Sin é wrote:Is he the next James Coughlan? He is pretty young still. If he can make it at this level (that was a decent team that Leinster A put out), he should be able to make it at Magners level anyway.

I wonder how Borlase got on?

Sounds like it. Seen him described as one of the best non contracted players around.

EDIT: I didnt mean to type international rugby. I meant professional rugby.

Shall we be seeing his name pop up more often then? Or was this a one off?

Really couldnt tell you. I mean even if we take out David Wallace and James Coughlan (our backrows who are over 30) we still have:

Peter O'Mahony
Tommy O'Donnell
Denis Leamy
David O'Callaghan
Niall Ronan
Paddy Butler
Billy Holland

And in reality Coughlan is only 31 so has another year or two left in him. By that stage we might be looking at someone like Shane Buckley or Cathal O'Flaherty to step up to the plate instead.

Don't forget young O'Hara....another with a good future

Is POM even going to get any game time at 7 next season? TOD seems to be pretty highly rated to be given a HEC start at 7, when POM was picked as the reserve 7 for Ireland. Then there is Ronan who was playing very well before getting injured, and now Wallace is back. Quite a lot of competition there.

Thats true DOD.

I have to say, is the Ian Nagle fad over yet? I never rated the guy all that highly.

Nagle is interesting..when he is good he is brilliant, but can be anonymous a lot of the time..seems a bit to easy going for his own good

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Is POM even going to get any game time at 7 next season? TOD seems to be pretty highly rated to be given a HEC start at 7, when POM was picked as the reserve 7 for Ireland. Then there is Ronan who was playing very well before getting injured, and now Wallace is back. Quite a lot of competition there.

No you play where you can get game time. He'll mainly play 6 next year. This year the slot was at 7 and he has the natural skill set to play at 7. He will make a good 6 as well though.

I still don't think his natural game suits 7, but sure.

DOD wrote:Don't forget young O'Hara....another with a good future

It depends on whether he can put on enough weight and compete at this level,
he also seems to have a habit of getting injured at the wrong time. He was on
the same u20 panel as ruddock, butler and d ryan and probably would have
started at 7 if he didn't get injured before the six nations. He is an actual
proper 'natural' 7.

On Nagle, he's still young and has a lot of potential. Too early to write him off
but of course the hype was probably a bit over the top.


I enjoyed the game yesterday, looks to be a lot of potential coming through for
both teams and maybe the future isn't as bleak as some think.

Was at the game and from a Leinster perspective there were some good showings. We had more linebreaks and possession but more missed kicks and less territory and Munster were really good in defence in terms of their scramble.

Leinster lads who impressed me:

Auav'a: In a different league physically to all others on the pitch
Macken: Looked very dangerous particularily when given any space on the outside
McGrath: Was pretty snappy not as much of a threat around the fringes as I've seen before and his kicks in the 1st half weren't far enough his passing was excellent though

Munster will be facing Cross Keys in the final. At which venue though?