Young talent : Who's got the best

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Everyone it seems to have an unprecedented tidal flow coming through

A bit of current form:

Senior
http://www.statbunker.com/rugby/btb/index.php?PL=competition&Code=5730112&statType=

1 Wales 5 5 0 0 109 58 51 0 0 10 young established squad
2 England 5 4 0 1 98 71 27 0 0 8 young early post-transition squad
3 Ireland 5 2 1 2 121 94 27 0 0 5 in-transition squad
4 France 5 2 1 2 101 86 15 0 0 5 pre-transition squad
5 Italy 5 1 0 4 53 121 -68 0 0 2 hopeful squad
6 Scotland 5 0 0 5 56 108 -52 0 0 0 basket case with some baby Moseses apparently floating in the reeds

U20s
http://www.statbunker.com/rugby/btb/index.php?PL=competition&Code=9891233&statType=

1 England U20 5 4 0 1 169 40 129 8
2 France U20 5 4 0 1 109 63 46 8
3 Ireland U20 5 4 0 1 86 46 40 8
4 Wales U20 5 2 0 3 89 125 -36 4
5 Scotland U20 5 1 0 3 59 134 -75 2
6 Italy U20 5 0 0 5 60 138 -78 0

U18's
In the recent FIRA-AER Tournament, Wales, Ireland and England all performed well

HERSH wrote:

idris wrote:Just giving you the facts that's all. Edinburgh in the heineken cup semi's is just the start. No Dan Parks next year so Scotland won't be as generous.

When was I not calm?

When you don't have anything to say you always say everyone is is trying to cause an argument. Why is everyone picking on me? etc etc... Maybe it is not everyone?

As I said keep calm,

Edinburgh have done very well to get to the SF of the HC, but I fail to see how that effects international rugby seeing as Scotland finished in 6th place at this years 6 nations?

One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that, this was a discussion about who had the most talented youngsters yet you have turned it into a Wales are better than England, player qualification and all the other nonsense that raises it head when someone is feeling out of their depth in a sensible rational debate.

You sound really angry

Not at all my dear fellow, just fail to understand how you believe Scotland are better than England?

If you're making such a bold statement then at least try to back it up with some evidence, otherwise maybe it would be best to say nothing or try and contribute to the thread, if you can that is?

Your getting a bit hot headed now.

Just my opinion that's all. England were lucky and Scotland have better players coming through.

How disappointing.

You can't wum nor can you show any rugby knowledge or insight.

Maybe football is your thing?

You should really respect other peoples opinions and not get on your high horse so much.

We do Idris, really we do, but I and another fellow poster would just like to know what you are basing it on that’s all, it's not asking much considering the bold statement you've made.

HERSH wrote:We do Idris, really we do, but I and another fellow poster would just like to know what you are basing it on that’s all, it's not asking much considering the bold statement you've made.

I don't believe you do.

Jeez Idris, you have nothing to backup your claims about England and when people disagree you say they're not respecting your opinion?

Some people on here are so rude and ill informed.

You can kind of tell that the Welsh and English have no representation in the ERC for the rest of this year. That explains why a bunch of these style threads have burst into life.

Whatever mate, i'm not gonna waste my time. It seems ast though you like to take every opportunity you can to bash England, looking at your posts and threads...

Wales and England both have equal claims to the best young talent.

England have the best U18s and U20s, more young strength in depth coming through.

Wales have more youngsters who have established themselves on the international scene like Faletau,North,Halfpenny,Lydiate,Davies etc

Its pretty hard to judge in all honesty, I don't really get to see much of the rabo and when i watch u20s etc its england so i know our players but don't have much idea on the other nations youngsters. I think England do have more talent more coming through (but we would due to a larger player base) and there are quite a few playing in the Jeff, just look at the gloucester backline, especially next season with the addition of 36. There is plenty of quality coming through the ranks in virtually every position, except for 12 as has been mentioned. I just hope that 36 or someone steps up and becomes the player we all hope he can be!

Also Idris, your logic for Scotland overtaking England is based on Edinburgh reaching the HC semis? Don't recall seeing a Welsh team making it that far either, so it sounds like they might well be overtaking you fellas as well!

Wales have better young talent already drafted into their international squad, but England have more coming through. Just hope some of the bright sparks are given a run out, like the Welsh boys have been allowed to do.

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:You can kind of tell that the Welsh and English have no representation in the ERC for the rest of this year. That explains why a bunch of these style threads have burst into life.

Not really. The English have our own league we actually care about. Holds most of our attention pretty well.