Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
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Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
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3rdGrandslamCame- Posts : 88
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
hang on a minute.
Last season we didn't make it beyond the group stages in any competition.
This year we made the LV semi final and the Amlin QF.
That looks like improvement to me.
Still not quite where we want to be, still loads of room for even more improvement, but when you consider the squad disruptions we've had this season, the fact that we've actually managed to show some improvement (even if it is small) is a step in the right direction for me.
Last season we didn't make it beyond the group stages in any competition.
This year we made the LV semi final and the Amlin QF.
That looks like improvement to me.
Still not quite where we want to be, still loads of room for even more improvement, but when you consider the squad disruptions we've had this season, the fact that we've actually managed to show some improvement (even if it is small) is a step in the right direction for me.
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
Taylorman wrote:Cari wrote:Stephen Jones is only covering at 12 because Jonathan Davies had to pull out last minute. To be fair to Priestland, it's not his fault that the ball hits the post.
Thats a new one I have to admit...whos is it then?
I should've said it's not "entirely" his fault. Maybe the conditions had something to do with it? I don't know...it's just bad luck. Even the most experienced kicker hits the post from time to time. And yes, even more than once.
But hey, as Billy and Morgannwg suggested, what the feck would I know, I am afterall only a woman and should stay in the kitchen where I belong (thanks for reminding me guys, I'm such an airhead, I forget where the kitchen is....) How dare I suggest that players are human and have off-days or maybe affected by other things?
Cari- Posts : 18478
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
Cari wrote:
But hey, as Billy and Morgannwg suggested, what the feck would I know, I am afterall only a woman and should stay in the kitchen where I belong (thanks for reminding me guys, I'm such an airhead, I forget where the kitchen is....)
Spot on!
Morgannwg- Posts : 6338
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
samuraidragon wrote:
"Scarlets' improvement is down to them bringing on their own guys..."
Hang on a minute. They are mid-table in the league and non-challengers in the Heineken. Again.
Yes, they are providing some great young players to the national team, but as a team they are second-tier.
What is happening this year is that the gap between Ospreys and Scarlets is closing by the Ospreys getting worse. The major reason is that they lost half a dozen international quality players.
It is quite possible that next year the O's will sind further and there will be no top tier club team in Wales.
How can that be good?
Just a few seasons ago we finished behind the Dragons and everyone was claiming the Region was going to fold.
In a few short years the team has progressed to an Amlin QF from a group where they were the 4th ranked team, reached the QF of the LV= using the 2nd string team to develop and are still in with a chance of making the play offs in the league.
All this on top of providing almost a full back line to the National team and incidently loosing 3 of the first 4 choice Hookers during a large chunk of the league program, with the changes ND has had to make to his seasons planning due to unexpected call ups I personally think he has done a fantastic job to keep them in contention in the league at all.
2nd Tier ? I suppose that depends on how you define second tier and how many tiers you believe their are in 1st class rugby
Is that good? Its good enough for me as I will be renewing my season ticket within the next week and looking forward to seeing players like Jordan Williams amongst others come through next year the same way as North, S Williams and L Williams have recently.
2ndtimeround- Posts : 595
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
Cari wrote:But hey, as Billy and Morgannwg suggested, what the feck would I know, I am afterall only a woman and should stay in the kitchen where I belong (thanks for reminding me guys, I'm such an airhead, I forget where the kitchen is....) How dare I suggest that players are human and have off-days or maybe affected by other things?
Cari, whilst you there would you be able to make me some yorkshire pudding please. Then you can hop on a plane and come watch rugby at my house.
Us South African men aren't male chauvinists.
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
2ndtimeround wrote:samuraidragon wrote:
"Scarlets' improvement is down to them bringing on their own guys..."
Hang on a minute. They are mid-table in the league and non-challengers in the Heineken. Again.
Yes, they are providing some great young players to the national team, but as a team they are second-tier.
What is happening this year is that the gap between Ospreys and Scarlets is closing by the Ospreys getting worse. The major reason is that they lost half a dozen international quality players.
It is quite possible that next year the O's will sind further and there will be no top tier club team in Wales.
How can that be good?
Just a few seasons ago we finished behind the Dragons and everyone was claiming the Region was going to fold.
In a few short years the team has progressed to an Amlin QF from a group where they were the 4th ranked team, reached the QF of the LV= using the 2nd string team to develop and are still in with a chance of making the play offs in the league.
All this on top of providing almost a full back line to the National team and incidently loosing 3 of the first 4 choice Hookers during a large chunk of the league program, with the changes ND has had to make to his seasons planning due to unexpected call ups I personally think he has done a fantastic job to keep them in contention in the league at all.
2nd Tier ? I suppose that depends on how you define second tier and how many tiers you believe their are in 1st class rugby
Is that good? Its good enough for me as I will be renewing my season ticket within the next week and looking forward to seeing players like Jordan Williams amongst others come through next year the same way as North, S Williams and L Williams have recently.
All power to the Scarlets fans for their loyalty and passion through a tough period, but for the long-term economic health of a professional sport success is crucial. Look at what the Swans' success has done in football.
I fear that Welsh rugby is moving from a period when there were two well-financed teams with aspirations to top-tier status to none. It's great to see the emergence of new talent, and hard-core fans like those who inhabit this message board will always turn out, rain or shine. But if all four teams become development teams for the national squad, then the casual fans will stay away and economically the game will be in a downward spiral, IMO. The lack of quality and tension even in regional derbies is already a problem.
samuraidragon- Posts : 719
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
Samurai - I see you point. But to be fair if all four regions were turning out young players who were pushing for the welsh shirts then the casual fan would IMO be more likely to turn up and watch the matches, as the regions would be full of high quality young local (to their regions) players. That is pretty much what anyone wants to see.
ScarletSpiderman- Posts : 9944
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
Winning is good.
I'd like to see our regions as competing on the same level as the top Irish, French and English teams - meaning regular appearances in league playoffs and HC QFs and beyond for 2-3 teams.
To do that we need the up-and-coming youngsters, but we also need stars.
The O's lost half-a-dozen marquee names and are about to lose two more. God knows what's going on at the Blues, but the ins-and-outs do not suggest a stronger team next year.
I'd like to see our regions as competing on the same level as the top Irish, French and English teams - meaning regular appearances in league playoffs and HC QFs and beyond for 2-3 teams.
To do that we need the up-and-coming youngsters, but we also need stars.
The O's lost half-a-dozen marquee names and are about to lose two more. God knows what's going on at the Blues, but the ins-and-outs do not suggest a stronger team next year.
samuraidragon- Posts : 719
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
I actually find at PYS that there are more new people coming to watch each time another young player enters the 1st team, hearing fans talking in the stand regularly about which player is getting a 1st game or how well some of the youngsters in the regional clubs are doing.
I honestly believe the true fans prefer to see local boys playing that have grown up wanting to play for their team and that this will build a much more loyal and sustainable fan base.
It may take a few seasons for the regions to compete with the best in Europe again but is IMHO the best way forward for Welsh rugby.
I honestly believe the true fans prefer to see local boys playing that have grown up wanting to play for their team and that this will build a much more loyal and sustainable fan base.
It may take a few seasons for the regions to compete with the best in Europe again but is IMHO the best way forward for Welsh rugby.
2ndtimeround- Posts : 595
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
2ndtimeround wrote:I actually find at PYS that there are more new people coming to watch each time another young player enters the 1st team, hearing fans talking in the stand regularly about which player is getting a 1st game or how well some of the youngsters in the regional clubs are doing.
I honestly believe the true fans prefer to see local boys playing that have grown up wanting to play for their team and that this will build a much more loyal and sustainable fan base.
It may take a few seasons for the regions to compete with the best in Europe again but is IMHO the best way forward for Welsh rugby.
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the buzz about PyS this season with all the young local players becoming involved has been amazing. It's only gotten better since Foxy decided to re-sign for us as well. he's a local player, born and raised Scarlet and he's chosen to stay. It's something the fans can really buy into and believe in, and just made better when they know that most of the players come from the region itself.
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
2nd time - another ditto here too.
When you know that the lads who are playing in your local village/town team's under 14/16/18s are being looked at by the Scarlets etc, it does definately make people more interested.
When you know that the lads who are playing in your local village/town team's under 14/16/18s are being looked at by the Scarlets etc, it does definately make people more interested.
ScarletSpiderman- Posts : 9944
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Re: Why is Priestland kicking when Jones is also playing?
ScarletSpiderman wrote:2nd time - another ditto here too.
When you know that the lads who are playing in your local village/town team's under 14/16/18s are being looked at by the Scarlets etc, it does definately make people more interested.
I think it also makes people take more of an interest in the youth sides to see who the next stars might be for the region, knowing that those that do well will get a chance in the 1st team.
It's not too bad - 3 seasons ago the Scarlets had hit rock bottom and were the bottom Welsh team (and bottom of the league I think) now we are in a much better position despite not having more than half our backs or props playing for most of the season.
The Ospreys are rebuilding but are still competiting at the top of the league and have been all season, and are bringing through some exciting players.
The Dragons academy is really picking up speed and working well, and although their feeling the squeeze financially they are building sustainably and I think building more strength in depth.
The Blues, well for all the doom mongering and people asking if this is the end, they got to the HEC QFs, and were until recently competing for a play off spot.
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