The Titanic and my best wishes to Ulster.

by Portnoy Sun 15 Apr 2012, 6:46 pm

First topic message reminder :

The media have gone into overdrive on the tragedy a hundred years ago.

Much of this is mawkish and in the case of the Belfast Titanic Museum, cynical commercialism.

But at the root of it the Harland and Wolff was a deeply sectarian organisation which was in no way the last reason for the problems in northern Ireland in the 20th century.

That is why I want Ulster to do well. A side which spans the both the divide and the Irish nations to win the HEC in this centenary year would be welcome by pretty much every neutral (I hope).

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:33 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Sin, I went to see Pienaar/Muller talk about this stuff a month or two ago. They both said they would never walk around with a bible in their hands preaching, or ever force anything onto someone. The christians within Ulster have prayer/study groups, and it is an open invitation, but that isn't even to do with rugby, that is outside of the game. Why would the captain set up a bible group in the dressing room? That simply does not happen. It is no secret they have these groups outside of the game, but they don't force anyone to come. Whoever wants to join them, or ask them any questions, does so. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that.

As for someone up north having a problem with people talking about GAA, why would they? It would take a pretty intolerable person to have a problem with that as well. Plus as rodders said, do you think people up here don't play it?

Well said Rory but feic off and stop talking sense please Laugh

... this thread won't work if we don't base everything on grossly exagerrated, outdated, offensive and inaccurate cultural and religious stereotypes! Wink

by **Notch** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:35 pm

red_stag wrote:Or the Southern Media Mafia that terrorises Ulster fans

The Titanic and my best wishes to Ulster. - Page 6 Smiley-face-shaking-fist

by clivemcl Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:38 pm

Dogs or cats?

I like dogs

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:39 pm

Is the dog a protestant or catholic?

by **Notch** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:40 pm

Both! There is so much hilarity to be had in the socialisation process between dogs and cats.

by clivemcl Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:41 pm

Really? I've been debating getting a cat for my two dogs. i dont know if I can trust them to look after it though.

by red_stag Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:46 pm

My cat is allergic to cats. 606 is allergic to common sense.

by Feckless Rogue Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:47 pm

I'm a member of a secret society dedicated to destroying the British music charts. We've launched Jedward with much success. And we're planning to hit them with "Redzer", Ireland's greatest rapper soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q2yvsWcZR0

by Rory_Gallagher Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:48 pm

I like the way the direction this thread has went!

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:49 pm

roddersm wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Chances are an ulster lad (culturally a protestant) would find the Munster dressing room a bit different because the topic of conversation would be about the GAA which he would probably have little experience of and most of that would have been negative.

Similar with a lad from Munster in the Ulster dressing room - the thoughts that the captain might want to set up a bible group wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea.

Why do you assume that an Ulster lad would be culturally a protestant? You realise the GAA exists up here too?

Provided the bible reading group is optional I wouldn't see a problem. Besides don't Catholics (assuming of course that the Munster player is culturally a Catholic ) believe in the Bible?

I'm assuming that he is for arguments sake. An Ulster lad (culturally a catholic) would know all about the GAA more than likely.

I would see a problem with the setting up of a bible group in the dressing room. Read the article in the Irish Times. The setting up of a Bible Group isn't exactly like setting up of a Golfing Society. No place for something like that in the workplace.

There is a difference between a practicising catholic/protestant/muslim and being a cultural one.

by red_stag Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:49 pm

Did you see that terrorist organisation Al Quadah are plotting to murder Jedward.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Islamic-terrorists-threaten-attack-on-Irish-Jedward-and-other-Eurovision-competitors-147428275.html

by geoff998rugby Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:52 pm

I go away and do some work for a hour and a discussion about religion turns into a discussion about drink.

Now I know its an Irish thread Run

We cant talk about GAA in the Ulster dressing room Headscratch

- hope no one tells Tommy Bowe he goes on and on about it. He might not come back Shocked

by **Notch** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:54 pm

red_stag wrote:Did you see that terrorist organisation Al Quadah are plotting to murder Jedward.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Islamic-terrorists-threaten-attack-on-Irish-Jedward-and-other-Eurovision-competitors-147428275.html

Oh dear. This is not sounding great. No doubt security will be very high.

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:55 pm

Sin é wrote:
There is a difference between a practicising catholic/protestant/muslim and being a cultural one.

Would you care to elaborate on that?

I would argue that there is actually no such thing as a cultural Catholic/protestant/muslim. You either believe in and practice a particular religon or don't.

Whilst you are here and we are on the topic.... do you think Munster cats are the same as Ulster cats or are their some sort of cultural differences?

by whocares Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:57 pm

back to the subject : Poite got appointed to ref Ulster-Edimburgh.

by Portnoy Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:59 pm

Sorry guys.

You were right.

I should have allowed the OP to go off-topic.

by Don Alfonso Tue 17 Apr 2012, 4:59 pm

red_stag wrote:Did you see that terrorist organisation Al Quadah are plotting to murder Jedward.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Islamic-terrorists-threaten-attack-on-Irish-Jedward-and-other-Eurovision-competitors-147428275.html

I am very close to posting something in response that would most likely get me banned.

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:01 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Sin é wrote:

I think you are paranoid. Of course that applies everywhere, not just Ulster. Did you not see where I mentioned Muslim - not too many of them playing rugby, let alone playing in Ulster.

Chances are an ulster lad (culturally a protestant) would find the Munster dressing room a bit different because the topic of conversation would be about the GAA which he would probably have little experience of and most of that would have been negative.

Similar with a lad from Munster in the Ulster dressing room - the thoughts that the captain might want to set up a bible group wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea.

Sin, I went to see Pienaar/Muller talk about this stuff a month or two ago. They both said they would never walk around with a bible in their hands preaching, or ever force anything onto someone. The christians within Ulster have prayer/study groups, and it is an open invitation, but that isn't even to do with rugby, that is outside of the game. Why would the captain set up a bible group in the dressing room? That simply does not happen. It is no secret they have these groups outside of the game, but they don't force anyone to come. Whoever wants to join them, or ask them any questions, does so. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that.

As for someone up north having a problem with people talking about GAA, why would they? It would take a pretty intolerable person to have a problem with that as well. Plus as rodders said, do you think people up here don't play it?

In that article he talks about how they prayed together before and after games back in SA and says that they have been a bit slow to get a bible group going in Ulster, but they intend doing it.

If you are not a practicising christian, you are going to feel excluded (or at the very least, its creating differences in the dressing room).

I didn't say there would be a problem talking about it, but due to the cultural differences, there may not be too many interested in talking about it. Most GAA games are on a Sunday, and devout protestant christians won't be going to gaa matches or watching them. Thats a cultural difference.

I remember reading a profile of Tommy Bowe & his sister Hannah (they got some award from Monaghan GAA) - they said something about how shocked Hannan's school mates were when they heard that she (the school captain) had played gaelic football in Croke Park. Apparently, no one knew at her school that she played gaelic as well as hockey.

by Feckless Rogue Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:02 pm

I don't think it matters who the ref is. I'd have Ulster as strong favourites, since they'll have home advantage. How many tickets have been sold?

by Artful_Dodger Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:07 pm

We've done well with Poite this season, happy with that - Feckless is right though, home advantage is a bigger factor.

by Don Alfonso Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:12 pm

Are there any professional Muslim rugby players in Britain or Ireland?

by Rory_Gallagher Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:12 pm

Sin, that is utter rubbish. You may be getting your information from articles, but I am telling you what Muller and Pienaar said. They are not intending to turn Ulster into a bible group for goodness sake. Pienaar, Muller and a few other christians in Ulster have bible studies together, outside of the game. Most of the Ulster team are not involved in that, because they do not share the same beliefs. But the guys that do have it leave it open to anyone who wants to join. Nor do they believe that it is right to ever impose their views onto others, they just say that if anyone does want to ask questions or join them, they are more than welcome to.

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:13 pm

Sin é wrote:
If you are not a practicising christian, you are going to feel excluded (or at the very least, its creating differences in the dressing room).

I didn't say there would be a problem talking about it, but due to the cultural differences, there may not be too many interested in talking about it. Most GAA games are on a Sunday, and devout protestant christians won't be going to gaa matches or watching them. Thats a cultural difference.

Tell me this Sin. What was Doug Howlett, BJ Botha, Lefimi Mafi etcs GAA knowledge like when they arrived in the Munster dressing room?

Christian Cullen was a fairly devout Christian wasn't he?

Did these guys feel excluded at Munster?

I think you'll find its only a very small number of devout presbyterians who refuse to watch or play sport on a Sunday.

Man you have a wild imagination! You need to get out more! Very Happy

by clivemcl Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:14 pm

Sin é wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Sin é wrote:

I think you are paranoid. Of course that applies everywhere, not just Ulster. Did you not see where I mentioned Muslim - not too many of them playing rugby, let alone playing in Ulster.

Chances are an ulster lad (culturally a protestant) would find the Munster dressing room a bit different because the topic of conversation would be about the GAA which he would probably have little experience of and most of that would have been negative.

Similar with a lad from Munster in the Ulster dressing room - the thoughts that the captain might want to set up a bible group wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea.

Sin, I went to see Pienaar/Muller talk about this stuff a month or two ago. They both said they would never walk around with a bible in their hands preaching, or ever force anything onto someone. The christians within Ulster have prayer/study groups, and it is an open invitation, but that isn't even to do with rugby, that is outside of the game. Why would the captain set up a bible group in the dressing room? That simply does not happen. It is no secret they have these groups outside of the game, but they don't force anyone to come. Whoever wants to join them, or ask them any questions, does so. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that.

As for someone up north having a problem with people talking about GAA, why would they? It would take a pretty intolerable person to have a problem with that as well. Plus as rodders said, do you think people up here don't play it?

In that article he talks about how they prayed together before and after games back in SA and says that they have been a bit slow to get a bible group going in Ulster, but they intend doing it.

If you are not a practicising christian, you are going to feel excluded (or at the very least, its creating differences in the dressing room).

I didn't say there would be a problem talking about it, but due to the cultural differences, there may not be too many interested in talking about it. Most GAA games are on a Sunday, and devout protestant christians won't be going to gaa matches or watching them. Thats a cultural difference.

I remember reading a profile of Tommy Bowe & his sister Hannah (they got some award from Monaghan GAA) - they said something about how shocked Hannan's school mates were when they heard that she (the school captain) had played gaelic football in Croke Park. Apparently, no one knew at her school that she played gaelic as well as hockey.

I'm fed up with this kind of nonsense. I do not like football, I know nothing about it. Every workplace I've been at, every social gathering I've been at regularly involved a group discussion about football. I took no part.

Do I expect people to stop talking about football? Of course I don't. Neither do i feel pressure to take more of an interest in football. I am more than confident in my own identity, and my balls are firmly in the grasp of my own hands!!!!

I'm sure that equally so, the non-christian players at Ulster are more than man enough to allow these things to happen and be passive about them.

What is with society and their infatuation with NEEDING everything to be like they are!?!

by **Notch** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:20 pm

I don't like Poite as a ref much to be honest. Obviously he's an elite ref, but I'd much rather have Nigel Owens or Wayne Barnes to him.

by MrsP Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:29 pm

Who is reffing the other semi?

by **Notch** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:32 pm

Barnes.

by MrsP Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:37 pm

Thanks Notch!

by Mickado Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:41 pm

Wasn't Barnes just dropped from the IRB elite panel? Good enough to ref a HC semi but not a top level international?

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:43 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Sin, that is utter rubbish. You may be getting your information from articles, but I am telling you what Muller and Pienaar said. They are not intending to turn Ulster into a bible group for goodness sake. Pienaar, Muller and a few other christians in Ulster have bible studies together, outside of the game. Most of the Ulster team are not involved in that, because they do not share the same beliefs. But the guys that do have it leave it open to anyone who wants to join. Nor do they believe that it is right to ever impose their views onto others, they just say that if anyone does want to ask questions or join them, they are more than welcome to.

Rory, read the article in the Irish Times. There are direct quotes.

The very fact that they decided to come to Ulster and feel comfortable here over other clubs suggests that Ulster is slightly different culturally to other clubs.

That also means that while the Saffers might be happy with the culture of the place, those who end up in other clubs might prefer to be where they are.

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:49 pm

roddersm wrote:
Sin é wrote:
If you are not a practicising christian, you are going to feel excluded (or at the very least, its creating differences in the dressing room).

I didn't say there would be a problem talking about it, but due to the cultural differences, there may not be too many interested in talking about it. Most GAA games are on a Sunday, and devout protestant christians won't be going to gaa matches or watching them. Thats a cultural difference.

Tell me this Sin. What was Doug Howlett, BJ Botha, Lefimi Mafi etcs GAA knowledge like when they arrived in the Munster dressing room?

Christian Cullen was a fairly devout Christian wasn't he?

Did these guys feel excluded at Munster?

I think you'll find its only a very small number of devout presbyterians who refuse to watch or play sport on a Sunday.

Man you have a wild imagination! You need to get out more!

They haven't been brought up to think that Sunday's is a day of rest & prayer. Since they all have kids, they'll end up knowing a lot about it. One of Tipoki's kids got all his teeth smashed playing hurling! Howlett has been seen with his son, both decked out in Cork GAA colours. Don't know about Mafi.

It wasn't long ago since sporting fixtures were not allowed in NI on sundays. That sticks with you culturally (just like catholic guilt sticks!).

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:51 pm

clivemcl wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Sin é wrote:

I think you are paranoid. Of course that applies everywhere, not just Ulster. Did you not see where I mentioned Muslim - not too many of them playing rugby, let alone playing in Ulster.

Chances are an ulster lad (culturally a protestant) would find the Munster dressing room a bit different because the topic of conversation would be about the GAA which he would probably have little experience of and most of that would have been negative.

Similar with a lad from Munster in the Ulster dressing room - the thoughts that the captain might want to set up a bible group wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea.

Sin, I went to see Pienaar/Muller talk about this stuff a month or two ago. They both said they would never walk around with a bible in their hands preaching, or ever force anything onto someone. The christians within Ulster have prayer/study groups, and it is an open invitation, but that isn't even to do with rugby, that is outside of the game. Why would the captain set up a bible group in the dressing room? That simply does not happen. It is no secret they have these groups outside of the game, but they don't force anyone to come. Whoever wants to join them, or ask them any questions, does so. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that.

As for someone up north having a problem with people talking about GAA, why would they? It would take a pretty intolerable person to have a problem with that as well. Plus as rodders said, do you think people up here don't play it?

In that article he talks about how they prayed together before and after games back in SA and says that they have been a bit slow to get a bible group going in Ulster, but they intend doing it.

If you are not a practicising christian, you are going to feel excluded (or at the very least, its creating differences in the dressing room).

I didn't say there would be a problem talking about it, but due to the cultural differences, there may not be too many interested in talking about it. Most GAA games are on a Sunday, and devout protestant christians won't be going to gaa matches or watching them. Thats a cultural difference.

I remember reading a profile of Tommy Bowe & his sister Hannah (they got some award from Monaghan GAA) - they said something about how shocked Hannan's school mates were when they heard that she (the school captain) had played gaelic football in Croke Park. Apparently, no one knew at her school that she played gaelic as well as hockey.

I'm fed up with this kind of nonsense. I do not like football, I know nothing about it. Every workplace I've been at, every social gathering I've been at regularly involved a group discussion about football. I took no part.

Do I expect people to stop talking about football? Of course I don't. Neither do i feel pressure to take more of an interest in football. I am more than confident in my own identity, and my balls are firmly in the grasp of my own hands!!!!

I'm sure that equally so, the non-christian players at Ulster are more than man enough to allow these things to happen and be passive about them.

What is with society and their infatuation with NEEDING everything to be like they are!?!

Everyone has a need to belong.

by MrsP Tue 17 Apr 2012, 5:54 pm

sin e,

You realise your arguments hold about as much validity as suggesting that some players don't fancy going to play for Munster because they aren't too keen on turnips!

How much time have you spent in Ulster?

Or are you just trotting out stereotypes?

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 6:13 pm

MrsP wrote:sin e,

You realise your arguments hold about as much validity as suggesting that some players don't fancy going to play for Munster because they aren't too keen on turnips!

How much time have you spent in Ulster?

Or are you just trotting out stereotypes?

No, Mrs P., you and a few others just keep jumping to the wrong conclusion.

I've spent some time in Ulster over the years (and was heavily involved in a 32-county sporting organisation at committee level) so I think I have some understanding of what society is like in our nearest neighbours.

So, tell me, how much time have you spent outside of Ulster/NI?

by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue 17 Apr 2012, 6:21 pm

Jasis this is great crack lads.

If I see you in the Taphouse, remind me to tell you the one about a guy from down here in a famous northern RC back in the 80s.

It's v funny.

Ford Pinto. They wondered why it never sold in Mexico. Till they found out it was slang for small pen1s.

My favourite. Mitsubishi Colt Starion.

Check it out. It really existed. It was a souped up Mitzi Colt back in the 80s.

Japanese decided to call it a starion because it had more oomph.

See where this is going?

No one ever noticed that they were actually trying to say Stallion. Laugh

Don't buy that star of Orion bs they thought of as a cover up.

by Feckless Rogue Tue 17 Apr 2012, 6:40 pm

Just heard Mick O'Driscoll is retiring.

by The Great Aukster Tue 17 Apr 2012, 6:40 pm

Surprised that anyone who knew anything about Northern Ireland would think religion had anything to do with the Troubles. The words Republican and Unionist offer a bit of a clue though.

Anyway that Will I Am on the Voice has an Ulster cat as opposed to a Munster one. You can tell the difference, because the Ulster one is orange. In fact didn't he want to change the name of his group so that he'd be known as Will I Am of the Orange eyed peas? Speaking of peas I don't believe a dachshund could reach a settee to sprinkle on it, unless of course it was an orange settee and the doggie was a Cork GAA mascot - motivation is such a big thing. Makes you wonder whether it had been drinking Bulmers or Magners to wash down its snickers. Still accidents can be cleaned up in a Ciffy unless yer Portnoy who seems to be peeved at going off topic. Personally I prefer Topic - it's the hazelnuts rather than the orange peanuts, but I keep it quiet in case someone calls me brandist.

by MrsP Tue 17 Apr 2012, 6:56 pm

sin e,

Plenty thanks!

Certainly enough to know not to jump to stereotypical conclusions!

by brennomac Tue 17 Apr 2012, 6:56 pm

roddersm wrote:
Feckless Rogue wrote:
Notch wrote:That's exactly what I'm saying. We're talkers by nature and we'll go off on a massive tangent at the drop of a hat. It's just the way we are.

So post away, but don't be frustrated if the conversation quickly turns into something entirely unrelated to the OP. Because it happens in almost every other Irish thread.

Why is Bulmers called Magners in the UK anyway? I'm pretty sure it's the same drink. So why does it have two different names?

It isn't. I thought Bulmers was a seperate brand and Magners bought them out recently. Pretty sure you can get Magners in the UK as well. Actually yeah I started drinking it in Edinburgh last year and my fridge is full of the stuff....

Don't Guinness own Murphys stout?

Rodders, Murphys is owned by that Dutch swill that sponsor the cup that Leinster are going to win for the 3rd time in four years next month, grand drink down south but doesn't seem to travel too well

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 7:03 pm

The Great Aukster wrote:Surprised that anyone who knew anything about Northern Ireland would think religion had anything to do with the Troubles. The words Republican and Unionist offer a bit of a clue though.

I think that point has been made much earlier in the thread - its not about religion (any more), just the cultural difference between those who feel their cultural affinity is with Britain or those who feel their cultural affinity is with those who live in the ROI.

I might add, some of you are a tad intolerant of those of us who have a different perspective on it.

I wouldn't touch a job where a lot of the staff were heavy into bible readings, religion etc. I'd go for the job that had no religious affiliations.

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 7:06 pm

MrsP wrote:sin e,

Plenty thanks!

Certainly enough to know not to jump to stereotypical conclusions!

Whats plenty?

What is your experience of people from places other than from Ulster? Have you worked for any multi-national companies for instance?

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 7:18 pm

Sin é wrote:
MrsP wrote:sin e,

You realise your arguments hold about as much validity as suggesting that some players don't fancy going to play for Munster because they aren't too keen on turnips!

How much time have you spent in Ulster?

Or are you just trotting out stereotypes?

No, Mrs P., you and a few others just keep jumping to the wrong conclusion.

I've spent some time in Ulster over the years (and was heavily involved in a 32-county sporting organisation at committee level) so I think I have some understanding of what society is like in our nearest neighbours.

So, tell me, how much time have you spent outside of Ulster/NI?

Sin you must have had a terrible experience of Ulster in this 32 county organisation to were in.

In 31 years I've met 1 person who didn't watch sport on a Sunday (my best friend in primary 2 wasn't allowed to watch TV which was a shame because the Gummi Bears were on) and I have countless friends and family in both Christian denominations as well as Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Athiest and Agnostic friends and even some people involved in weird quack religious sects.I've even met people who believe in witchcraft.

I know Orangemen, Apprentice boys, hardcore loyalists and Republicans, Nationalists, Socialists, fascists, Communists and people from all sorts of backgrounds;socially, politically and religiously but very rarely, if ever, have I come across the regressive Bible thumping oppressive religious culture that you are suggesting is previlent throughout society in NI.

I have no idea where you get this stuff. Headscratch

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 7:23 pm

Sin é wrote:I wouldn't touch a job where a lot of the staff were heavy into bible readings, religion etc. I'd go for the job that had no religious affiliations.

Hmm I take it you're not a man of the cloth then?

by Sin é Tue 17 Apr 2012, 7:30 pm

roddersm wrote:
Sin é wrote:
MrsP wrote:sin e,

You realise your arguments hold about as much validity as suggesting that some players don't fancy going to play for Munster because they aren't too keen on turnips!

How much time have you spent in Ulster?

Or are you just trotting out stereotypes?

No, Mrs P., you and a few others just keep jumping to the wrong conclusion.

I've spent some time in Ulster over the years (and was heavily involved in a 32-county sporting organisation at committee level) so I think I have some understanding of what society is like in our nearest neighbours.

So, tell me, how much time have you spent outside of Ulster/NI?

Sin you must have had a terrible experience of Ulster in this 32 county organisation to were in.

eh, no I didn't. Your jumping to (the wrong) conclusion again. I made some great friends in that organisation.

I was asked what I knew about Ulster/NI and if I had spent any time there.

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 7:51 pm

I'm not jumping to any conclusion Sin. You've used your experience which you gained via this organisation to justify the comments you've been making in this thread, which clearly don't paint NI or Ulster as a particularly attractive place for anyone who isn't a devout Christian.

Where in Ulster have you actually been and how long ago were these visits?

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 8:05 pm

It might interest you to know Sin that Ulsters strength and conditioning coach is a fellow Munster man:

http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/10401.php

Clearly he doesn't have a problem with the place.

by geoff999rugby Tue 17 Apr 2012, 8:10 pm

Sin é wrote: I wouldn't touch a job where a lot of the staff were heavy into bible readings, religion etc. I'd go for the job that had no religious affiliations.

Ulster has no religous affiliations.
So you dont feel comfortable with people of a different view point from yourself - for someone who claims to have a bit of experienced of the world I find that depressing.

Ulster has players who are teetotal and into their religion - Pienaer, Spence, Muller, Trimble, Humphreys etc
Ulster has players who like to go out and have a few drinks - Bowe, Stevenson, Best, Ferris, Wallace etc

There is no problem with them working together they are comfortable with that.

For record in my 57 years I have spend half outside Northern Ireland - lived in Southern Ireland, England, Australia and USA.
I have worked for an Indian company, an American company, an Australian company, played in a five a side soccer team where I was the only white skinned individual. I work for a multi national company now.
Traveled extensively - visited every continent except Antartica.
I reckon I can claim to have seen a bit of the world.

Take people as you find them and to say you would not want to work with people because of their religious or cultural beliefs I find very depressing.

See Rodders you got, part, of my life history anyway Very Happy

by geoff999rugby Tue 17 Apr 2012, 8:12 pm

roddersm wrote:I'm not jumping to any conclusion Sin. You've used your experience which you gained via this organisation to justify the comments you've been making in this thread, which clearly don't paint NI or Ulster as a particularly attractive place for anyone who isn't a devout Christian.

Northern Ireland is not an attractive place for someone who isn't a devout Christian - Poopie I am an atheist and I love it here - how could I have got it so wrong Erm

by **rodders** Tue 17 Apr 2012, 8:15 pm

geoff999rugby wrote:
See Rodders you got, part, of my life history anyway

Flip you mean there's more?! Laugh

by MrsP Tue 17 Apr 2012, 8:19 pm

sin e,

What can I tell you apart from you seem to have formed a view of Ulster that none of the folk on here from Ulster recognise as being anything close to the truth.

How much time I have spent outside of Ulster seems irrelevant as it would appear that some may continue to have a closed mind regardless of their travels. I hope my mind is open to even the parts of the world that I have not yet visited.

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