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Post by The Special Juan Wed May 02, 2012 4:35 am

First topic message reminder :

Here is a list of all the "big movers" to the PL this season. The table contains the player's name, club moved from and to and fee for so we can scrutinise them Wink

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Player From ToFee
Kevin de Bruyne Genk (Belgium) Chelsea £6.7m
Olivier Giroud Montpellier (France) Arsenal £13.2m
Eden Hazard Lille (France) Chelsea £35.2m
Shinji Kagawa Borussia Dortmund (Germany)Manchester United £13.2m
Marko Marin Werder Bremen (Germany)Chelsea £8.6m
Lukas Podolski Cologne (Germany) Arsenal£11.4m
Jan Vertonghen Ajax (Netherlands) Spurs£7.5m


Any updates would be appreciated.

Other transfers that may/may not be interesting:

Gylfi Sigurdsson - Spurs
Jacob Butterfield - Norwich
Nick Powell - Manchester United
Romain Amalfitano - Newcastle
Steven Naismith - Everton

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/transferuebersicht/wettbewerb_GB1.html


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Post by FIFA Diva Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:12 pm

I wouldn't want United to sign RVP yes he is a very talented player but we have Welbeck who is showing great promise why stunt his growth and Hernandez who offers us something diffrent.

Playing RVP and Rooney may not be appealing in real life as on paper, both players like to drop deep Rooney working hard and playing the passes and RVp dropping down linking up with play getting touches of the ball. With Welbeck we got someone who can lead the line and the pace to stretch defenders.
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Post by The Special Juan Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:37 pm

Theo Walnut is wanting away (apparently). Arsenal fans; do you care?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:39 pm

If I was an Arsenal fan I would be irate with my club. The fact that over the past 5 years Arsenal have a net spend of -£21 million (I think) is quite good from a financial point but no trophies. Heck Norwich have a higher net spend than Arsenal the past 5 years and we have spent most of that in The Championship/League 1!
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:58 pm

Who the hell is going to want to snap up Theo on his wages?????

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Post by Crimey Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:04 pm

John wrote:Who the hell is going to want to snap up Theo on his wages?????

I imagine there would be a fair bit of interest, while you do rate him, a lot of those in world football do. If he was to leave it'd almost certainly be abroad.

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:09 pm

I could see him causing havoc in Italy with that speed but apart from that there might be some takers in League One which should suit his level of ability.

In all seriousness, it's pretty obvious he's going to be an Arsenal player for life.


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Post by GSC Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:09 pm

Yeah, Theo has a good reputation around Europe. Guardiola and Messi were big fans iirc.
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Post by Crimey Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:15 pm

John wrote:I could see him causing havoc in Italy with that speed but apart from that there might be some takers in League One which should suit his level of ability.

In all seriousness, it's pretty obvious he's going to be an Arsenal player for life.

Maybe Newcastle can snap him up, he'll be a huge improvement on Obertan. Wink

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:21 pm

Obertan is embarrasing, whoever scouted him at Man Utd while he was Bordeaux must of been sacked. I'd rather stick with HBA on the right instead of Theo. I hear Woodgate has gone back to Boro'!

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Post by The Special Juan Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:29 pm

Yeah he has. He's signed a contract but is now out for 4 months with a wrist injury.

Walnut would do well in Italy.
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Post by hampo17 Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:11 am

If someone signed Walcott to play as a striker it would work out nicely, his pace is fantastic and his finishing is very underrated.

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Post by Small Time Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:16 am

hampo171 wrote:If someone signed Walcott to play as a striker it would work out nicely, his pace is fantastic and his finishing is very underrated.

Have you told Wenger that? Smile

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Post by hampo17 Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:20 am

Laugh I've thought this for a while, but as a Liverpool fan I wouldn't want to aid Arsenal in another trophyless season Wink

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Post by Small Time Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:23 am

hampo171 wrote:Laugh I've thought this for a while, but as a Liverpool fan I wouldn't want to aid Arsenal in another trophyless season Wink

With that in mind I should stop going on about Andy Carroll Very Happy

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:25 am

Wayne Bridge off to Brighton on loan.

Wonder how much of his 90k a week wages they're paying
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:26 am

Small Time wrote:
hampo171 wrote:If someone signed Walcott to play as a striker it would work out nicely, his pace is fantastic and his finishing is very underrated.

Have you told Wenger that? Smile

Don't tell John that Shocked

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:55 am

Park Ji Sung close to joining QPR laughing
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:06 am

Are QPR just trying to get relegated lol
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Post by FIFA Diva Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:08 am

Olly wrote:Are QPR just trying to get relegated lol

4 league titles, 3 carling cups and a champions league says diffrent. He is a good player, you don't play in big matches for United if you are rubbish.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:09 am

I know he is a decent player, but if he was still that good United would be keeping him wouldn't they
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:25 am

Lets be fair, he's picked because he runs a lot and United have no good holding midfielders to stifle the opposition.
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:29 am

Also hes having a medical this weekend
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:31 am

park is finished now what is he 31? looked out of sorts last year and hardly used, retired from international duty and everyone in asia has bought his kit. new generation of asian superstar has come through and thats kagawa.

5m for Park is ridiculous offer from QPR, dont make sense that deal.

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:38 am

QPR could do alot worse than Park. He has an excellent attitude and will run through brick walls for the cause. On top of that he's a better player than he's given credit for.

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Post by FIFA Diva Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:39 am

Olly because a player leaves United don't mean they are not good, I still think he could have moved to a better side maybe wants more game time.

Swann and Rooney is picked because he scores, players offer diffrent things that's why they're picked wouldn't be good if we had 11 skilful flair plays who don't track back.
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:39 am

John wrote:park is finished now what is he 31? looked out of sorts last year and hardly used, retired from international duty and everyone in asia has bought his kit. new generation of asian superstar has come through and thats kagawa.

5m for Park is ridiculous offer from QPR, dont make sense that deal.

Since when have QPR started making good transfers? More money than sense there.
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Post by alanqlm Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:01 am

As a QPR fan I will be delighted if we complete the signing of Park, one of the most under rated players in the league.

And makes perfect sense with Fernandes trying to promote us to the Asian market.

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Post by Crimey Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:05 am

I'm not so sure. I think he went the same way as Kuyt to be honest. Vilified by many for not being excellent, but a lot of support for their work ethic and seen as underrated...but then when do start losing their legs a bit, as Kuyt and I think Park have done, they are still rated.

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:12 am

Why is it that whenever a club signs an Asian player it suddenly becomes all about shirt sales and exposure?


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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:14 am

Well Kagawa has it on merit, but Park hadnt really done anything to suggest he was Man Utd worthy.
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:23 am

Laugh Man Utd have a new Asian player, therefore Park gets shafted. I think he deserves better in all honesty. Great player for the club and is/was underrated. Ok, he had one bad season, but did any Utd players aside from Rooney and Valencia really sparkle last season? If we're getting rid of players, get rid of Evra.
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:39 am

Spurs paying 5.5m for Adebayor
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:41 am

yer but you cant just get rid of evra like that. firstly you've got to see that evra had young in front of him and under fergie, young doesnt or isnt required to track back religiously like he was under hodgson at the euro's. thts why young had a good season at united where he was able to express himself and not be handcuffed helping out evra. which resulted in evra having to deal with alot and sometimes being doubled up on and admittedly he has lost pace but hes still a quality player. anyway, who you gonna get, there arent alot of quality left backs out there. baines worth £20m, do me a favor.........

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:42 am

Young was still useless when he had chances to go forward.
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:50 am

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Spurs paying 5.5m for Adebayor

That's a bargain if he remains interested.

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:52 am

Man City need to dump his salary
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Post by Ent Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:40 pm

Park is a truely useless footballer, the only thing he was ever good at was falling over.

A lot is made of his ability to run around and movement etc etc which is fine when you are in a team containing Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, non ancient Giggs and Scholes etc

Also a clear message on the main use of asian players for a club like united.

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Post by Small Time Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:23 pm

Ent wrote:Park is a truely useless footballer, the only thing he was ever good at was falling over.

Come on man your better than that. We're all having a more or less sensible debate on here and you have to come wuming, or of course you truly believe Man Utd have been playing a "useless player who was only good at falling over" in massively important premier and champions league games?

He was of course not useless.

Parks ability to get into the right position in the box at the right time is totally under rated to the point of not being noticed....normally as he would fluff his lines and miss, but nevertheless he was getting into those positions in the first place. As someone alluded to earlier Park was mostly used as a nullifier by man to manning in certain CL games (due to a lack of defensive midfielders)....to pretty good effect I might add. It'll be nice to see what he can do with the shackles released if you like, although I'm not to sure QPR are that club. Could have been a great signing for Swansea though.


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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:53 pm

Evra got burned for pace by any fast winger. There are lgood LB's about, you just have to know where to look.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:54 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Evra got burned for pace by any fast winger. There are lgood LB's about, you just have to know where to look.

Agree with this completely. Anthony Pilkington tore him to shreds at Carrow Road. Now he is decent, but that's not a good sign for Evra Laugh
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:59 pm

Alaba - no chance
Smelzer - no chance of Dortmund selling again to United
Enrique - no chance
Baines - horrifically over-priced by Everton
Jordi Alba - gone to Barcelona
Coentrao - no chance

where does mr.ferguson look?

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:09 pm

Jan Vertonghen can play LB but he appears to be on his way to Spurs. Maybe the other Rafael brother; he looked a little bit better defensively than the other brother. Is Clyne a LB?
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:11 pm

The Brazilian brothers are so over-rated in my opinion. I know Rafael is appaling and when I've seen Fabio he hasn't exactly set the world on fire. Clyne is a right back who Newcastle have been heavily linked with. Apparently Mamadou Sakho has told PSG that he wants to leave for a cut price after losing his place in the first team. Unsurprisingly Newcastle United are linked. I heard this guy was the next big thing in France about three years ago but his career seems to have stagnated. Will be interesting to see if anything materialises.

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Post by Bull Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:15 pm

of course there not going to be amazing there still young they deserve the chances give them time to improve i hate when people judge with out giving players time.

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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:24 pm

LILLE REPLACE EDEN HAZARD!! With Salomon Kalou
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:26 pm

Yes, but Rafael is 21 and been at Man Utd since 08/09 playing 50+ apps. I haven't seen any real improvement from him and he was responsible for a majority of foul ups last season defensively and his positional play is extremely poor, as shown against Everton. Fabio is the one who is injured basically every week. I think United fans have given them time and been very patient but are not witnessing huge improvement you would expect.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:29 pm

Clyne is a RB TSC OK
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:32 pm

Cheers Olly. There's never any young LB's about. They just seem to appear.

I think the Rafael brothers are wing backs and nothing more. I've seen much more of Rafael than Fabio. Apparently, in Brazil, one of them was a natural FB and one was a winger. I'm not sure which was which but I think Fabio was the FB.
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:47 pm

Maicon to Chelsea to go through in the next few days.

Still think thats a poor signing
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Post by Crimey Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:48 pm

John wrote:yer but you cant just get rid of evra like that. firstly you've got to see that evra had young in front of him and under fergie, young doesnt or isnt required to track back religiously like he was under hodgson at the euro's. thts why young had a good season at united where he was able to express himself and not be handcuffed helping out evra.

I've said this many times, but I'll say it again. It's total rubbish. One of the main problem's about Ashley Young's performances at Euro 2012 was that he DIDN'T track back, which left Ashley Cole completely isolated. Most wingers should be able to track back and still attack, that's part of the job of their position, if they can't do that then they aren't that good of a winger. Most wingers, bar Ronaldo, tracked back at Euro 2012, Ashley Young didn't and it was a deficiency in his game.

This is without even mentioning what somebody else has said; he didn't do well going forward. Across the whole tournament he put in just one good cross, and didn't have any good shots on goal. He was absolutely useless.

He played well in the friendly games under Hodgson's tactics so I don't agree that it has anything to do with them. I think he just had a poor tournament.

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