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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Thu 03 May 2012, 5:00 pm

Have just seen on Dan Rafaels twitter there are apparently loads of tickets still left....

Is this worrying that the biggest star of the sport, fighting a big name opponent with a huge NY based Puerto Rican fanbase cannot sell out the MGM Grand?

I'm no expert on tickets sales etc but i know for a Tyson fight for example tickets were the most sought after ticket going

If the biggest star in boxing cannot sell out a relatively small venue does this again highlight the diminishing appeal of the sport

Or am i being overly cynical and pessimistic?
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 03 May 2012, 5:10 pm

Maybe fans are 'doing a Rowley' en masse.....

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 03 May 2012, 5:11 pm

Yes it is a little worrying, to be honest. Wouldn't have expected that

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Post by Steffan Thu 03 May 2012, 5:12 pm

Mayweather doesnt have many fans. And theres no way Puerto Ricans can afford to travel all that way to Vegas nevermind stay in a hotel for 2/3 nights

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 03 May 2012, 5:15 pm

Pretty big Puerto Rican community in the States tho surely??

Always a big Filipino turn out for Manny fights but I bet none of them have just stepped off the plane.....

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Post by Union Cane Thu 03 May 2012, 5:16 pm

Nothing like a spot of racial stereotyping, eh Steffan.
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Post by Steffan Thu 03 May 2012, 5:22 pm

Union Cane wrote:Nothing like a spot of racial stereotyping, eh Steffan.
If its any consolation I couldnt afford another trip to Vegas either nowadays. Maybe the fight should have been in MSG anyway. Lots of Puerto Ricans in NYC and surely Mayweather would fancy a change from the MGM

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Thu 03 May 2012, 5:25 pm

Steffan wrote:
Union Cane wrote:Nothing like a spot of racial stereotyping, eh Steffan.
If its any consolation I couldnt afford another trip to Vegas either nowadays. Maybe the fight should have been in MSG anyway. Lots of Puerto Ricans in NYC and surely Mayweather would fancy a change from the MGM

Can you not remember the whole debacle of Mayweather booking this date and venue in advance to try and lure Pac
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Post by Union Cane Thu 03 May 2012, 5:27 pm

He follers the dollers mate.

Enjoy your evening, I'm having Chinese for my tea.
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Post by Steffan Thu 03 May 2012, 5:28 pm

Unbeatable Georgey Groves wrote:Can you not remember the whole debacle of Mayweather booking this date and venue in advance to try and lure Pac
I do now infact. Well Mayweather must know by now that Poochio and Arum are ducking him so he neednt had bothered. I dont think many people give Cotto much chance to be honest. Would have rather seen Mayweather fight Bradley who I give a good chance against the Pac

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 03 May 2012, 5:42 pm

Steffan wrote:
Union Cane wrote:Nothing like a spot of racial stereotyping, eh Steffan.
If its any consolation I couldnt afford another trip to Vegas either nowadays. Maybe the fight should have been in MSG anyway. Lots of Puerto Ricans in NYC and surely Mayweather would fancy a change from the MGM

Never, Mayweather loves to stay in Vegas and also didn't want Pac booking it for a fight.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 03 May 2012, 5:58 pm

Also, Mayweather is allowed to use that drug for his hands in Vegas, is he not?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 03 May 2012, 6:18 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:Also, Mayweather is allowed to use that drug for his hands in Vegas, is he not?

The one he hasn't used for years?

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Post by azania Thu 03 May 2012, 6:25 pm

Sign of the times. There happens to be a global recession and fight tickets are pricey. The PPV sales will be huge though.

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Post by azania Thu 03 May 2012, 6:26 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:Also, Mayweather is allowed to use that drug for his hands in Vegas, is he not?

Yes he is and are not illegal. What's your point?

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Thu 03 May 2012, 6:44 pm

azania wrote:Sign of the times. There happens to be a global recession and fight tickets are pricey. The PPV sales will be huge though.

Well NFL, and basketball and baseball are all managing high ticket sales at bigger stadiums....if you want to go to it price of the ticket is not an issue, i should think travel etc would be the stumbling block
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Post by azania Thu 03 May 2012, 6:47 pm

Unbeatable Georgey Groves wrote:
azania wrote:Sign of the times. There happens to be a global recession and fight tickets are pricey. The PPV sales will be huge though.

Well NFL, and basketball and baseball are all managing high ticket sales at bigger stadiums....if you want to go to it price of the ticket is not an issue, i should think travel etc would be the stumbling block

Boxing is somewhat different. When the NY Giants play, the stadium is packed full of New Yorkers watching their team. Team sports are more tribal also. If this fight were in San Juan, it would be a sell out.

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Post by Unbeatable Georgey Groves Thu 03 May 2012, 6:57 pm

azania wrote:
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azania wrote:Sign of the times. There happens to be a global recession and fight tickets are pricey. The PPV sales will be huge though.

Well NFL, and basketball and baseball are all managing high ticket sales at bigger stadiums....if you want to go to it price of the ticket is not an issue, i should think travel etc would be the stumbling block

Boxing is somewhat different. When the NY Giants play, the stadium is packed full of New Yorkers watching their team. Team sports are more tribal also. If this fight were in San Juan, it would be a sell out.

Fine but when Brock lesnar can sell out the MGM and Floyd cant that is worrying no?
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Post by The Galveston Giant Thu 03 May 2012, 7:14 pm

I think it is a little worrying, maybe people have tired of him. Decent undercard fight aswell.
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Post by azania Thu 03 May 2012, 7:22 pm

Unbeatable Georgey Groves wrote:
azania wrote:
Unbeatable Georgey Groves wrote:
azania wrote:Sign of the times. There happens to be a global recession and fight tickets are pricey. The PPV sales will be huge though.

Well NFL, and basketball and baseball are all managing high ticket sales at bigger stadiums....if you want to go to it price of the ticket is not an issue, i should think travel etc would be the stumbling block

Boxing is somewhat different. When the NY Giants play, the stadium is packed full of New Yorkers watching their team. Team sports are more tribal also. If this fight were in San Juan, it would be a sell out.

Fine but when Brock lesnar can sell out the MGM and Floyd cant that is worrying no?

UFC gives away most of its tickets for $5 a pop. Boxing sells at $150 for the back end seats.

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Post by azania Thu 03 May 2012, 7:25 pm

I'll add that it is worrying but not surprising. Boxing is being marginalised constantly. Good for very few fighters, but for the majority of fighters, its not so good.

Promoters still think its the 1970s where arenas are stacked and people watching it onlive tv. Floyd can walk down Oxford St and no one will know him.

Most UK boxers can do the same also.

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Post by Mayweathers cellmate Thu 03 May 2012, 7:40 pm

Come on everyone let's go. I've found flights for £450.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 03 May 2012, 8:26 pm

Hello everyone!

ECONOMIC CRISIS.

Its not surprising that tickets are still available. Most will watch at home and the PPV numbers will be huge for this fight.

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Post by Rowley Fri 04 May 2012, 7:36 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:Maybe fans are 'doing a Rowley' en masse.....

I tend to be ahead of the curve on these things.

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Post by Rowley Fri 04 May 2012, 7:59 am

No need Alma, such is my influence on here just a few well chosen words are enough to set a tsunami of anti Manny and Floyd sentiments in motion. Also people round here seem a little more interested in football this weekend.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 04 May 2012, 8:06 am

Who would buy a ticket other than Floyd's buddies and Cotto's doctor?

Boring fight, keep your money, spend it on spandex. tomato
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Post by KingMonkey Fri 04 May 2012, 2:33 pm

The yanks must look at fights like Brook vs Hatton, Groves and Degale and just be in absolute amazment at the full arenas. Geography is what makes British sport great, we're practically on top of eachother compared to the States. They're spread to thin.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 04 May 2012, 10:05 pm

Well he is about to break a record for the highest ever base-purse

He is guaranteed $32mil before PPV sales, beating $30 mil Tyson got for Holyfield 2 and beating mayweathers precious record of $24mil he got vs ortiz.

Given PPV numbers will easily make 1million buys, I'm sure mayweather won't be too upset even if tickets weren't sold out straight away as he'll be getting a record purse for himself

Mayweather just makes it too pricey for many. Tickets cost a bomb for limited viewing and PPV costs the Americans $64.99 to watch on HBO

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Post by azania Fri 04 May 2012, 10:17 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Well he is about to break a record for the highest ever base-purse

He is guaranteed $32mil before PPV sales, beating $30 mil Tyson got for Holyfield 2 and beating mayweathers precious record of $24mil he got vs ortiz.

Given PPV numbers will easily make 1million buys, I'm sure mayweather won't be too upset even if tickets weren't sold out straight away as he'll be getting a record purse for himself

Mayweather just makes it too pricey for many. Tickets cost a bomb for limited viewing and PPV costs the Americans $64.99 to watch on HBO

That's why he doesn't need Paq and vice versa. They can both make serious or the same money, get bigger purse splits and bigger PPV splits without fighting each other. Shame the fans lose out though.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Fri 04 May 2012, 10:22 pm

65 Dollars is a joke.
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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 04 May 2012, 10:56 pm

Also, if anyone's looking at the weigh in, have you seen the turnout for it. I can't believe they haven't sold out a 20,000 seater when over 4000 have turned out for the weigh in

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Post by hampo17 Fri 04 May 2012, 10:58 pm

I was surprised when I heard that WHU. More non-fighting fighters on stage than fighters who are fighting tomorrow ATM Laugh

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Post by hampo17 Fri 04 May 2012, 11:05 pm

Mosley looked in fantastic shape but came in half a pound over.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 04 May 2012, 11:13 pm

hampo171 wrote:Mosley looked in fantastic shape but came in half a pound over.

This isn't a good sign imo. He has never struggled to make weight and this fight is at 154. He needs to lose 1/2 lbs which should be easy as he didn't look drained but at 40 it's not something you want when your past your prime. He has put on muscle which should make him stronger but it might make him slower than he already is

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Post by hampo17 Fri 04 May 2012, 11:17 pm

There wasn't an ounce of fat on Floyd. Really excited for this fight now, the face off was tense as well.

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Post by All Time Great Sat 05 May 2012, 9:30 am

MGM tickets usually sell on the day of the fight, especially the back row seats. I went to the Ortiz vs Mayweather fight (Mexican Independence day) and we managed to get tockets on the day of the fight.

When we got to the stadium it looked like a sell out mind you. I've heard Mayweather doesnt usually sell out capacity stadiums so this isn't too much of a surprise. May just isn't a great time to go Vegas.

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Post by OasisBFC Sat 05 May 2012, 5:58 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Mosley looked in fantastic shape but came in half a pound over.

This isn't a good sign imo. He has never struggled to make weight and this fight is at 154. He needs to lose 1/2 lbs which should be easy as he didn't look drained but at 40 it's not something you want when your past your prime. He has put on muscle which should make him stronger but it might make him slower than he already is

it was a weird one. it depends on the scales he was using beforehand. apparently they said he was bang on 154. the calibration may have been off on either scale.

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