Pro12 Semi Number 2 Leinster v Glasgow

by Jenifer McLadyboy Sun 6 May 2012 - 20:23

First topic message reminder :

I would go with the 23 that will take the field in the HC final the following week. (below)

Perhaps swap a few guys around. But we want to A/Win and B/Get the systems in place for the following week.

If we do get a lead going then think about getting people off for the following week. But it is a knockout game against a side that have beaten us in the RDS this year. So I am not expecting anything but a tough game from Glasgow. They have no other distractions and will be well focused on the job.

Resting players? Madness at this point in the season (unless they are injured) If we rest players for this, everyone will get a rest in the Pro12 final when we watch Glasgow travel to the Liberty.

Rule 1 in a knockout game. Win.

Rule 2. There is no rule 2.

Healy
Strauss
Ross
Cullen
Thorn
McLaughlin
O'Brien
Heaslip

Redan
Sexton
McFadden
D'Arcy
O'Driscoll
Nacewa
R Kearney

Cronin
Van Der Merwe
White
Toner
Jennings
Boss
Madigan
D Kearney

by **rodders** Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:38

viewtothegym wrote:Ireland should look to using some south African props to help their pathetic scrum, just like munster leinster and Ulster have

bad day View?

by Golden Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:41

Is there a mandatory amount of time out after a concussion?

Will Darcy be ruled out of the Heineken cup because of it?

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:44

If he's concussed he should be out for 3 weeks.

As there's a final next week though, I've no doubt they'll say twas just "a slight knock to the head and he was taken of as precaution"

by **rodders** Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:45

Joe reckons he'll be fit, its only a bad cut.

Sounds like O'Malley is the only concern along with O'Driscoll.

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:47

Wow anyone one seen the team sheets for the tiger's v sarries game? Looks like the ref Dave Pearson was the only English man on the pitch ,
Na I have had a good day just chilling laying down some facts and facts hurt!

Wait for some come back on me being a numpty fact!

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:52

viewtothegym wrote:Wow anyone one seen the team sheets for the tiger's v sarries game? Looks like the ref Dave Pearson was the only English man on the pitch ,
Na I have had a good day just chilling laying down some facts and facts hurt!

Wait for some come back on me being a numpty fact!

Scarelts are full of foreign players wales pick a fair few as well

by MrsP Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:55

If he is concussed he will be assessed and go through the GRTP protocol.

If he remains symptom free at each stage he could be back in a week.

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:56

tecphobe wrote:
viewtothegym wrote:Wow anyone one seen the team sheets for the tiger's v sarries game? Looks like the ref Dave Pearson was the only English man on the pitch ,
Na I have had a good day just chilling laying down some facts and facts hurt!

Wait for some come back on me being a numpty fact!
Scarelts are full of foreign players wales pick a fair few as well

How are Scarlets full of foreign players?! they've been winning plaudits for playing all the young up and coming Welsh players! (and I can't believe I just responded to that....)

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:57

george north were was he born?

by Morgannwg Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:58

tecphobe wrote:george north were was he born?

where's the facepalm?

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 21:59

Morgannwg wrote:
tecphobe wrote:george north were was he born?

where's the facepalm?

Morgannwg im messing view was on the wind up just messing

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:02

Calm down just throwing some fly by comments out there.
just trying to get some banter rolling, bored whilst the misses watches Britain talent

by **rodders** Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:05

We'd be lost without you view guinness

....

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:06

damian welch, sean lamont, arranon shingler, damian welsh, ben morgan, sion Timani. All born outside Wales

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:07

viewtothegym wrote:Calm down just throwing some fly by comments out there.
just trying to get some banter rolling, bored whilst the misses watches Britain talent

7 if you include george which i dont.

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:08

Welch lamont and Morgan are no longer scarlets

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:09

And JD 2

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:09

Is English not no longer a scarlet

by Artful_Dodger Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:09

Deacon Manu - since we were on the topic of non Irish props at the provinces Smile

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:10

why have you named Welch twice?! Shingler's lived most his life in Wales too Smile

Current NWQ for next season that we have are Timani and Manu if he stays. Iongi and Gilbert as squad players. I think that number will go up if we recruit as planned in the front and 2nd row.

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:12

viewtothegym wrote:And JD 2

based on season just gone, on a serious note i believe there are decent props in ireland we just keep trying to turn backrowers into props

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:13

rugbydreamer wrote: why have you named Welch twice?! Shingler's lived most his life in Wales too

Current NWQ for next season that we have are Timani and Manu if he stays. Iongi and Gilbert as squad players. I think that number will go up if we recruit as planned in the front and 2nd row.

born in aldershot though

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:14

was a typo naming welsh twice lol If you go on the scarlets website the ones not born in wales dont have a place of birth on there bio lol

by **rodders** Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:16

OK guys we get it, Wales have so much strength in depth not only do they not need foreign players they are keeping the French clubs afloat with their surplus!

Ireland are the source of all that is wrong with rugby, poaching all poor SA and NZs props to deprive the rest of Europe their rightful place in the HEC final.

warning

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:17

what does it matter if they weren't born in Wales? If they've grown up here (and nearly all have from a very, very young age) and/or have Welsh parents, they are Welsh.

My brother and sister were born in London, before my parents moved back to Wales when they were 1 and 2. That doesn't make them any less Welsh at all then say me who was born here.

I always find it baffling when people roll that out as an argument. If they'd only lived here for 3 years then you might have a point Smile

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:29

rugbydreamer wrote:what does it matter if they weren't born in Wales? If they've grown up here (and nearly all have from a very, very young age) and/or have Welsh parents, they are Welsh.

My brother and sister were born in London, before my parents moved back to Wales when they were 1 and 2. That doesn't make them any less Welsh at all then say me who was born here.

I always find it baffling when people roll that out as an argument. If they'd only lived here for 3 years then you might have a point

Not to mention the breeding programme that was introduced in the ninetys to produce the like of toby Faletau warning

by Imperialbigdave Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:39

oh my goodness, youve welshed this thread!

by Guest Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:42

tecphobe wrote:
rugbydreamer wrote:what does it matter if they weren't born in Wales? If they've grown up here (and nearly all have from a very, very young age) and/or have Welsh parents, they are Welsh.

My brother and sister were born in London, before my parents moved back to Wales when they were 1 and 2. That doesn't make them any less Welsh at all then say me who was born here.

I always find it baffling when people roll that out as an argument. If they'd only lived here for 3 years then you might have a point
Not to mention the breeding programme that was introduced in the ninetys to produce the like of toby Faletau

BigDave - apologies, but sure isn't it more interesting then the rugby that was on display this evening? Wink

by Imperialbigdave Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:43

naughty...

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 22:47

I actually enjoyed the match tonight but then i love a good forward battle. Glasgow backrow were AWESOME

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat 12 May 2012 - 23:17

Clancy = cheat

by tecphobe Sat 12 May 2012 - 23:23

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Clancy = cheat

og behave some of the fans one here are turning into wendyball fans

by **Notch** Sat 12 May 2012 - 23:35

rodders wrote:Joe reckons he'll be fit, its only a bad cut.

Sounds like O'Malley is the only concern along with O'Driscoll.

Mind games. O'Driscoll has played through some ridiculous injuries in his career. 50/50 for him is when his leg is hanging off and we'd have heard about that! He'll be on that pitch for sure.

by **Notch** Sat 12 May 2012 - 23:39

tecphobe wrote:I actually enjoyed the match tonight but then i love a good forward battle. Glasgow backrow were AWESOME

Aw man, tell me about it. Chris Fusaro, unsung hero and my man of the match.

by dublin_dave Sat 12 May 2012 - 23:53

cant wait until next saturday.

fire the bags into the hotel borough market for a bit of brekkie, few early pints around London bridge then head over towards Twickers to soak up the atmosphere. hopefully its a sunny day

5pm Satuday kick off plenty of pre match drinking atmosphere should be incredible.

by GLove39 Sat 12 May 2012 - 23:58

tecphobe wrote:
21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Clancy = cheat
og behave some of the fans one here are turning into wendyball fans

Did you watch the game? Cause if you did you'll see that 21st has a point, as I said in an earlier post, Clancey really is clueless, and let Leinster treat the ruck like a swimming pool.
He is a factor in the loss (at times it felt like 16 V 15/14), but at the end of the day though, poor goal-kicking, a few dodgy throws at the lineout and leaving things a bit too late were what caused Glasgow to lose today.

by Knowsit17 Sun 13 May 2012 - 0:02

Looks like standards have been changed conveniently. It used to be that a three-year residency made you a foreigner. Now apparently it's anyone born outside the country they're playing for Headscratch

If we're going that far:

England - Alex Corbisiero (New York, USA)
- Dylan Hartley (Rotorua, NZ)
- Matt Stevens (Durban, SA)
- Mouritz Botha (Vryheid, SA)
- Thomas Waldrom (Lower Hutt, NZ)
- Lee Dickson (Verden, Germany)
- Charlie Sharples (Hong Kong)
- Shontayne Hape (Auckland, NZ)
- Manusamoa Tuilagi (Fogapoa, Samoa)
- Brad Barritt (Durban, SA)
- Delon Armitage (San Fernando, Trinidad and Tobago)

Ireland - Tom Court (Brisbane, Australia)
- Mike McCarthy (London, England)
- Jamie Heaslip (Tiberias, Israel)
- Ronan O'Gara (San Diego, USA)

Scotland - Jim Hamilton (Swindon, England)
- John Barclay (Hong Kong)
- David Denton (Zimbabwe)
- Dan Parks (Hornsby, Australia)
- Ruaridh Jackson (Northampton, England)
- Graeme Morrison (Hong Kong)
- Max Evans (Torquay, England)

Wales - Luke Charteris (Camborne, Cornwall)
- Ian Evans (Johannesburg, SA)
- Dan Lydiate (Salford, England)
-Toby Faletau (Tofua, Tonga)
- George North (King's Lynn, England)
- Jon Davies (Solihull, England)
- Alex Cuthbert (Gloucester, England)

Btw good win Leinster, see you in the final thumbsup

by Pot Hale Sun 13 May 2012 - 0:15

Thank goodness that Leinster got George (Georgieboy) Clancy appointed to this match.

He was simply fantastic tonight. Ruled the match with an iron rod and gave neither side a break. He was as near invisible as you could get from a top-class international referee - you can see why he was picked to ref the opening match of the world cup.

by funnyExiledScot Sun 13 May 2012 - 12:38

Really enjoyed that game, despite the result. Nacewa really is a genius with ball in hand, and it's a real credit to the Glasgow defence that they held off Leinster for so long.

Leinster are the best team in Europe, and Glasgow ran them within 4 points at home. A fine effort, and they made it a physical and bruising contest.

Great advert for the Rabo. Leinster vs Ospreys is going to be really interesting.

by asoreleftshoulder Sun 13 May 2012 - 13:12

Happy with the result,we won without playing very well and more importantly we gave nothing away,Ulster won't have learned much from that game.

I though bringing Madigan on for D'Arcy was a bit odd,Conway on to the wing and McFadden to 12 would have made more sense to me but maybe because it was so early Schmidt didn't feel Conway would have the match fitness to last.

by formerly known as Sam Sun 13 May 2012 - 13:56

Wow anyone one seen the team sheets for the tiger's v sarries game? Looks like the ref Dave Pearson was the only English man on the pitch

Sure, if you ignore the 6 England internationals in tigers starting line up (not including flood) and the 6 in sarries starting line up. That was just the internationals. Hardly all foreign.

by Rory_Gallagher Sun 13 May 2012 - 13:58

Good to see O'Brien making his signature runs again! Thought he was a real force with ball in hand in that game. Play 6 more!

by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 14 May 2012 - 8:38

I'm not normally one for bashing the Ref, 9 times out of 10 the ref has only a small part to play in the game and the losing team are architects of their own demise.

Not the case on Saturday. Clancy was in a word awful, and to be honest I wouldn't have him anywhere near a professional game ever again.

He pinged Glasgow for the smallest infringement and told Leo Cullen 5 times to get his hands of the ball at that final scrum, had a penalty been awarded and Glasgow got a quick tap and go they could have had time for the restart and scored another try. Granted we'll never know, but how can a player be warned 5 times to get their hands off the ball, ignore the referee and win a scrum for their team?

chin

A disgrace frankly.

by geoff998rugby Mon 14 May 2012 - 8:47

Clancy has been awful all season.
He let Martyn Williams ref a game in Cardiff against us (Ulster) and we are an Irish team !! (not that is any consolation to Glasgow fans).

by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 14 May 2012 - 8:56

Certainly one of the most obscene decisions I have ever witnessed in a proffesional game :

Hands off Blue,

Hands away Blue!

Touches Cullen on the Shoulder "LEAVE IT"

Hands Off!

Scrum down Blue ball.....

Headscratch

by MrsP Mon 14 May 2012 - 9:03

The question is,

Why was he telling Cullen to get his hands off a ball that wasn't on the ground? Surely it was a maul and Cullen was completely within his rights to go for the ball, no?

I have no idea why he was telling him to leave it.

Headscratch

by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 14 May 2012 - 9:06

I don't think Clancy knew what he was doing either. If it was a maul it was the strangest Maul I have ever seen, with almost no players on their feet.

I know only one thing for sure MrsP, Clancy told Cullen to leave it alone, he (Cullen) didn't and won Leinster a scrum.

by MrsP Mon 14 May 2012 - 9:10

I totally agree it was very odd indeed.

I don't actually think he was all that bad* the rest of the game but that one was just bizarre!

*Relatively speaking.

by Mickado Mon 14 May 2012 - 9:17

What about that move where Leinster kicked forward and a fortuitous bounce came up to Kearney (I think). He was tackled well by Hogg, who then stood up without releasing the tackler and was on the wrong side of the ruck. He slowed the ball down and by the time we could use it the entire Warriors line was about 2 foot offside, crossfeild kick goes into Conway who came out of nowhere (he looked onside to me), and he crosses for the try. Disallowed. Very odd. Should have been a yellow for Hogg for slowing down the ball in that position.

by RuggerRadge2611 Mon 14 May 2012 - 9:23

Referee's miss things like that all the time though Mick, not saying it's ok or it's a good thing.

What sets the Cullen thing apart is Clancy warned him 3 times and then despite Cullen ignoring the warnings he awarded Leinster a Penalty.

chin

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