The 606v2 Fantastic Fantasy Football Homepage XII

by sodhat Fri May 11, 2012 2:40 pm

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League A

Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - Hero

Tactics

Real Ale Sociedad - TwisT

Injuries

AC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - Marky

Lawyers

Straight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBull

Fixtures

Cunning Canaries FC - ollyrules

Results

Viva City - VivaPaulScholes

Table

Treble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners

Go Ahead Pigeons - Russell_Elmo

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League B

The London Silly Nannies - sodhat

Tactics

Jacamos United - TSC

Injuries

FC Furious - nick_fury

Lawyers

Sporting Sideburns FC - Gav

Fixtures

AFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando

Results

FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfan

Table

Borussia Munchingballsack - Sainty

City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 9:47 am

sodhat wrote:He's with Munchingballsack at the moment.

I notice Hazard isn't in the league yet. That will change I'm sure....

You say that, I think Bull's on the verge of signing Micky Hazard Wink

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 9:47 am

Who called Kagawa selfish yesterday. I would like to called them an idiot

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 9:51 am

Hero wrote:Kagawa I'm not too keen on tbh. I just don't know if he fits with the current Utd set up and how he'd work with Rooney. Usually he's an incredibly selfish player.

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 9:52 am

I notice Hazard isn't in the league yet. That will change I'm sure....

For £24m im not surprised

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 9:53 am

nick_fury wrote:
I notice Hazard isn't in the league yet. That will change I'm sure....
For £24m im not surprised

But with the likelihood he'll be a Man City player next season, it would be a gamble worth taking.

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 9:56 am

£24m, but for a player who was rated highly on the Furious League and will be playing for a top 2 team next year... seems reasonable to me.

I'd be tempted to buy Tevez too, he's dropped in value to around £26m. Just not sure I could use him in my side!

by ncfc_Tooze Tue May 15, 2012 10:00 am

John ruddy to be named in the England Euro 2012 squad. 4/1 last night, 5/2 this morning and now into 11/8

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 10:03 am

My England Euro 2012 squad;

Joe Hart
John Ruddy
Scott Carson

Micah Richards
Kyle Walker
Ashley Cole
Leighton Baines
John Terry
Rio Ferdinand
Gary Cahill
Joleon Lescott

Scott Parker
James Milner
Gareth Barry
Frank Lampard
Steven Gerrard
Ashley Young
Adam Johnson
Aaron Lennon

Wayne Rooney
Danny Welbeck
Daniel Sturridge

And one of Grant Holt or Andy Carroll, I genuinely can't decide.

by **Afro** Tue May 15, 2012 10:03 am

Marky wrote:Sainty inherited him from Nay Bother's side, so Kagawa is alongside Gaitan and Di Maria in the Borussia Munchingballsack side.

If I were Sainty, i'd play the front four as;

Di Maria - Kagawa - Gaitan
Llorente

That is a decent frontline, although perhaps Llorente needs a LW who is more inclined to stay wide and put crosses into the box, rather than Gaitan, who has a tendancy to drift in. It would also need two solid midfielders behind as you aint going to get much defensive help from the 3 AMs.

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:04 am

But with the likelihood he'll be a Man City player next season, it would be a gamble worth taking.

Well hes already said hes wearing blue next season.
I would gamble on him, how much will he play there?
Adam Johnson surely has to leave now

by ncfc_Tooze Tue May 15, 2012 10:04 am

#Holtyforengland #englandsnumbernine

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 10:05 am

nick_fury wrote:
But with the likelihood he'll be a Man City player next season, it would be a gamble worth taking.
Well hes already said hes wearing blue next season.
I would gamble on him, how much will he play there?
Adam Johnson surely has to leave now

I've said elsewhere, Hazard to City, Adam Johnson moves on. To where though, that is the question. Arsenal would be a good fit.

by FIFA Diva Tue May 15, 2012 10:06 am

Morning

I don't think we need 8 defenders I would take one out and put in another striker. I'd also put Carrick into the squad.

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:08 am

Id drop Barry and put Carrick in. Id also take Phil jones

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 10:09 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Morning

I don't think we need 8 defenders I would take one out and put in another striker. I'd also put Carrick into the squad.

In the same way I wouldn't take 3 goalkeepers, 2 keepers for a 4 week Tournament should be plenty, but it's about them being there in case of injury.

Carrick ahead of Barry if he was consistent enough, and Carrick just isn't consistent enough to rely on.

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:09 am

Marky wrote:
nick_fury wrote:
But with the likelihood he'll be a Man City player next season, it would be a gamble worth taking.
Well hes already said hes wearing blue next season.
I would gamble on him, how much will he play there?
Adam Johnson surely has to leave now

I've said elsewhere, Hazard to City, Adam Johnson moves on. To where though, that is the question. Arsenal would be a good fit.

Liverpool I bet, they love an English player and he would frankly be an improvement on the wingers they have. Plus Maxi is leaving.

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 10:11 am

Has anyone signed Phil Jones yet?

And Nick, do FC Furious really have £92M in the coffers?!

by **Afro** Tue May 15, 2012 10:12 am

Marky wrote:
Hero wrote:Kagawa I'm not too keen on tbh. I just don't know if he fits with the current Utd set up and how he'd work with Rooney. Usually he's an incredibly selfish player.

Mmm. Not sure where the selfish tag comes from. I can see the worry about playing with Rooney when Rooney likes to drop deep, but if Kagawa was playing AM, I don't think Rooney would need to play as deep.

by **Hero** Tue May 15, 2012 10:14 am

Kagawa achieved 14 assists and 17 goals this season.

Now compare that to other AMs

Kroos, 7 goals, 18 assists
Ozil, 7 goals, 29 assists
Silva, 9 goals, 21 assists
Eriksen, 8 goals, 20 assists

For me Utd need an attacking midfielder more in that role rather than one than thinks of the glory for themselves. Also I really don't think getting both him and Lewandowski will work, Kagawa has gone on record of calling the striker 'selfish' ironically.

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:26 am

Hero wrote:Kagawa achieved 14 assists and 17 goals this season.

Now compare that to other AMs

Kroos, 7 goals, 18 assists
Ozil, 7 goals, 29 assists
Silva, 9 goals, 21 assists
Eriksen, 8 goals, 20 assists

For me Utd need an attacking midfielder more in that role rather than one than thinks of the glory for themselves. Also I really don't think getting both him and Lewandowski will work, Kagawa has gone on record of calling the striker 'selfish' ironically.

Now that's a proper creative midfielder...

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:27 am

Has anyone signed Phil Jones yet?
And Nick, do FC Furious really have £92M in the coffers?!

Yes and Yes. feel free to check my budgets.

Hero, Kagawa has 12 assist less then the highest on your list but has double the goals.
Is Bale selfish? Dempsey?
Bale, 9 goals, 10 assists
Dempsey, 17 goals, 6 assists???

David Silva, 6 goals, 15 assist.
Mata, 6 goals, 13 assists

I dont see how you can call a player who as an attacking midfield player selfish when he contributes on both fronts.

Kagawa has gone on record of calling the striker 'selfish' ironically.

Please produce this "record"

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 10:30 am

sodhat wrote:
Hero wrote:Kagawa achieved 14 assists and 17 goals this season.

Now compare that to other AMs

Kroos, 7 goals, 18 assists
Ozil, 7 goals, 29 assists
Silva, 9 goals, 21 assists
Eriksen, 8 goals, 20 assists

For me Utd need an attacking midfielder more in that role rather than one than thinks of the glory for themselves. Also I really don't think getting both him and Lewandowski will work, Kagawa has gone on record of calling the striker 'selfish' ironically.

Now that's a proper creative midfielder...

To be fair, you could create hundreds of chances and only the chances taken would show up as assists. Hence Ozil looks good, because Ronaldo, Benzema and Higuain scored nearly 100 between them!

by **Hero** Tue May 15, 2012 10:31 am

“Lewandowski’s game is purely focused on trying to score himself, rather than playing together with his team-mates,” Kagawa told Nikkei.

“He never looks around him for players who are in a better position than him. That’s why I hardly get the ball from him.

“There’s nothing you can do about that, though. That’s simply the type of player he is.

“He has scored 20 times, and I have 13 goals to my name. The only difference is that he doesn’t cooperate with other team members.

“I am convinced that he would score more goals if he made better use of me on the pitch.”

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:32 am

Marky wrote:
sodhat wrote:
Hero wrote:Kagawa achieved 14 assists and 17 goals this season.

Now compare that to other AMs

Kroos, 7 goals, 18 assists
Ozil, 7 goals, 29 assists
Silva, 9 goals, 21 assists
Eriksen, 8 goals, 20 assists

For me Utd need an attacking midfielder more in that role rather than one than thinks of the glory for themselves. Also I really don't think getting both him and Lewandowski will work, Kagawa has gone on record of calling the striker 'selfish' ironically.

Now that's a proper creative midfielder...

To be fair, you could create hundreds of chances and only the chances taken would show up as assists. Hence Ozil looks good, because Ronaldo, Benzema and Higuain scored nearly 100 between them!

I could flip the statistics and say "but would they have scored 100 between themselves without Ozil laying it on a plate?"

It's the problem with statistics...!

But the only thing I'll point everyone in the league to is who supplied the ball for Ronaldo to score the winner at Camp Nou? My man Ozil!

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:35 am

Link Hero.
Also where does Kagawa say he himself is selfish??

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 10:37 am

nick_fury wrote:
Has anyone signed Phil Jones yet?
And Nick, do FC Furious really have £92M in the coffers?!

Yes and Yes. feel free to check my budgets.

It wasn't that sort of question, i'm just surprised you haven't cleaned up when the likes of Phil Jones, David Luiz, Theo Walcott, Andy Carroll, (and until yesterday, Leighton Baines) are available in TP's. Unless you're spending it all on a £35M player to make sure no-one else gets him!

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:37 am

nick_fury wrote:Link Hero.
Also where does Kagawa say he himself is selfish??

The selfish thing was clearly just Hero's opinion and I don't think there is much mileage in berating it

It's not like he's said Joey Barton is non-violent now, is it?

by Marky Tue May 15, 2012 10:39 am

Joey Barton is just misunderstood...

by FIFA Diva Tue May 15, 2012 10:39 am

I wonder what secrets Barton has on Linekar.

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:41 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I wonder what secrets Barton has on Linekar.

Probably nothing. But if he can't get aggressive and threaten someone else he probably can't sleep at night.

by **Hero** Tue May 15, 2012 10:42 am

I'd agree that this year Kagawa has outperformed Gotze, the injury to Gotze certainly didn't help and it allowed Kagawa an extended run in the side where he obviously played a pivotal role. Just for me he's not a great team player and I worry with Utd being so much about the team that he may be a square peg for a round hole.

by **Hero** Tue May 15, 2012 10:43 am

Linekar is quite a womaniser it's alleged, he has quite the eye for the ladies.

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:43 am

Sodhat, my point is I dont understand how you can call a player who contributes with goal and assists selfish.

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:45 am

Just for me he's not a great team player

Sorry Hero. I dont think youve seen enough of him then.

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:46 am

Hero wrote:Linekar is quite a womaniser it's alleged, he has quite the eye for the ladies.

Has he also been seen eating a rival brand of potato snacks? The shame!

by FIFA Diva Tue May 15, 2012 10:47 am

nick_fury wrote:
Just for me he's not a great team player
Sorry Hero. I dont think youve seen enough of him then.

is that you Fan hacking Nicks account?

by **Hero** Tue May 15, 2012 10:47 am

I've seen plenty cheers, that's why I have an opinion on him.

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:51 am

is that you Fan hacking Nicks account?

I've seen plenty cheers, that's why I have an opinion on him.

OK Hero. your opinion is more valid as you have seen plenty of him, he is selfish.

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:53 am

https://www.606v2.com/t29121-season-1-nominations

Don't forget to do your nominations guys. Then we can have an end of season award gala and you're all invited. Maybe.

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:54 am

nick_fury wrote:
is that you Fan hacking Nicks account?

I've seen plenty cheers, that's why I have an opinion on him.
OK Hero. your opinion is more valid as you have seen plenty of him, he is selfish.

Dude, don't go all Fan because someone disagrees with you!

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:54 am

Then we can have an end of season award gala and you're all invited. Maybe.

Hero could do a Kanye West and invade the stage & tell people whos the best as he knows best Wink

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:55 am

Dude, don't go all Fan because someone disagrees with you!

im not going Fan. Hero has shown me what I didnt know. He has opened my eyes

by **Hero** Tue May 15, 2012 10:56 am

I hope I'm proved wrong, I hope that if Fergie buys him that he is the contributor more and he and Rooney can work together and it allows Rooney to stay further forward, I just can see him getting Rooney increasingly frustrated.

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 10:56 am

nick_fury wrote:
Dude, don't go all Fan because someone disagrees with you!
im not going Fan. Hero has shown me what I didnt know. He has opened my eyes

Are you sure?

Because I can see toys scattered all over the floor.

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 10:59 am

I dont share my toys, im selfish Smile

No no, I watch a Youtube clip, Hero has a more valid point.

by **Afro** Tue May 15, 2012 11:03 am

In fairness Kagawa was central to Dortmund before he got injured at the end of last season. Im not sure Gotze getting injured had anything to do with Kagawa getting back into the team.

Klopp loves Kagawa and put him straight back in at the start of this season when Gotze was still fit.

It can't be argued that the Dortmund team is built with Kagawa central to everything they do. I'd be interested to see stats of Kagawa's involvement in other assists where he didn't play the final ball - I bet you'd see a large number of other players assists, were "assisted" by Kagawa.

I just don't see where the selfish tag comes from, because that is the last thing I would call him. I don't see him always taking on players when he should pass, or shooting when he has a teammate in a better position. IMO he is quite a strong team player.

He does get forward and into the box a lot (he is no box to box player, that is for sure) and gets onto the end of things coming in. But that isn't selfish is it?

by nick_fury Tue May 15, 2012 11:06 am

Hero........care to make a rebuttal to Afros statement?

by **Afro** Tue May 15, 2012 11:11 am

Found this on Google. Quite a good precis I think.

http://www.thebusbybabe.com/2012/5/4/2997930/manchester-united-transfer-rumors-examination-of-shinji-kagawa

The writer also agrees with Hero about how he would work with Rooney, which is a fair comment.

by FIFA Diva Tue May 15, 2012 11:11 am

Sodhat whats the dress code for the award show? I've got a beautiful blue suit, brown or tan shoes?

by sodhat Tue May 15, 2012 11:13 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Sodhat whats the dress code for the award show? I've got a beautiful blue suit, brown or tan shoes?

Come as you are, as Kurt Cobain would say

Just make sure you bring a bottle, Cherries spent all our budget on a Brazilian themed cup final.

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