The 606v2 Fantastic Fantasy Football Homepage XII

by sodhat Fri 11 May 2012, 2:40 pm

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Everyone in League A (who votes on League B) send their results to Hero.
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League A

Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - Hero

Tactics

Real Ale Sociedad - TwisT

Injuries

AC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - Marky

Lawyers

Straight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBull

Fixtures

Cunning Canaries FC - ollyrules

Results

Viva City - VivaPaulScholes

Table

Treble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners

Go Ahead Pigeons - Russell_Elmo

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League B

The London Silly Nannies - sodhat

Tactics

Jacamos United - TSC

Injuries

FC Furious - nick_fury

Lawyers

Sporting Sideburns FC - Gav

Fixtures

AFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando

Results

FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfan

Table

Borussia Munchingballsack - Sainty

City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze

by FIFA Diva Tue 15 May 2012, 11:19 am

I like to put a little effort in, might win the best dressed manager.

Sure I'll bring a bottle but we need to keep a strict eye on the U-18 managers here only Fanta for them.

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 11:21 am

Why yes I would thanks Nick...

Kagawa for me wants to be the main man, his body language towards Lewandowski indicates unhappiness and the quote about a main striker being selfish in itself concerns me as a striker should be just that, selfish. Kagawa isn't a striker yet his shot rate per game is higher than his assist rate, that shows he's less likely to pass to the guy in front than take an effort himself whilst players like Ozil are constantly looking to provide that crucial pass.
He also isn't a team player in that he fails to track back, his tackle and interception rate is woeful, 1.2 tackles per game on average. He shone in the Cup final but more than often he is not a big game player either, he was woeful in the champions league campaign and when things aren't going his way completely shirks out of the game.

by **Afro** Tue 15 May 2012, 11:27 am

Hero wrote:Why yes I would thanks Nick...

Kagawa for me wants to be the main man, his body language towards Lewandowski indicates unhappiness and the quote about a main striker being selfish in itself concerns me as a striker should be just that, selfish. Kagawa isn't a striker yet his shot rate per game is higher than his assist rate, that shows he's less likely to pass to the guy in front than take an effort himself whilst players like Ozil are constantly looking to provide that crucial pass.
He also isn't a team player in that he fails to track back, his tackle and interception rate is woeful, 1.2 tackles per game on average. He shone in the Cup final but more than often he is not a big game player either, he was woeful in the champions league campaign and when things aren't going his way completely shirks out of the game.

He doesn't track back, agreed. His work rate is exceptional though. Read the link I posted above as I think that gets it spot on. He is more like a second striker than a midfielder and his work is all done pressing the defence.

And I agree that he doesn't track back, but a large part of that is to do with how Klopp chooses to use him i.e. as a support striker instead of a traditional midfielder.

I agree 100% with you that he isn't going to bring you anything tracking back, but that is not due to being selfish, that is down to how he used by Klopp. He doesn't walk around not pressing, he does the complete opposite. I think you need to compare his stats to those of other support strikers, rather than midfielders btw.

by Marky Tue 15 May 2012, 11:28 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I like to put a little effort in, might win the best dressed manager.

Sure I'll bring a bottle but we need to keep a strict eye on the U-18 managers here only Fanta for them.

Diet Fanta. Don't want them to have any sugar rushes.

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 11:29 am

But then to play him as a second striker where does that then leave Rooney, as the main man up front?

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 11:33 am

Hero. Lot of players were woeful in the champions league campaign. Hazard and Gaitan werent brilliant. Götze too.

Kagawa isn't a striker yet his shot rate per game is higher than his assist rate
1.2 tackles per game on average

Where is this information, link please.

by **Afro** Tue 15 May 2012, 11:34 am

Hero wrote:But then to play him as a second striker where does that then leave Rooney, as the main man up front?

That I think is the issue for United, not whether Kagawa is selfish.

I think you would have to play Rooney as the main striker, with Kagawa behind him. If you continue to play Rooney deeper with either Welbeck or Hernandez, then Kagawa doesn't fit into that side. He would then become "another club in the bag" in order to switch to different tactics against different teams.

Although I think Kagawa would be a good signing, I do think that there is a more pressing need for a Roy Keane type player first

by sodhat Tue 15 May 2012, 11:34 am

Marky wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:I like to put a little effort in, might win the best dressed manager.

Sure I'll bring a bottle but we need to keep a strict eye on the U-18 managers here only Fanta for them.

Diet Fanta. Don't want them to have any sugar rushes.

They may not be allowed to attend at all if we hold it at the wangbar as is our preference. We'd have to clarify their age policies.

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 11:35 am

Rooney, as the main man up front?

What? You type that like Rooney have never played out and out striker and scored goals........26 league goals the last time he played out and out.

by **Afro** Tue 15 May 2012, 11:35 am

nick_fury wrote:Hero. Lot of players were woeful in the champions league campaign. Hazard and Gaitan werent brilliant. Götze too.

Kagawa isn't a striker yet his shot rate per game is higher than his assist rate
1.2 tackles per game on average
Where is this information, link please.

I don't know the exact stats, but they feel right Nick - although you should compare shots per game versus chances created per game (rather than actual assists)

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 11:38 am

I do think that there is a more pressing need for a Roy Keane type player first

100% agree with that.

Hero, with the good points you have made still none of them equal to Kagawa being selfish.
Dempsey plays AM, 17 goals, 6 assists, I wouldnt call hium selfish.

by FIFA Diva Tue 15 May 2012, 12:06 pm

Did the site go down for a bit? Every time I tried to join it would say error blah blah blah.

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 12:09 pm

not sure

by FIFA Diva Tue 15 May 2012, 12:12 pm

Gavs birthday today.

Happy Birthday have a great day!! cake

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 12:29 pm

Rumour on Twitter is that Dalglish has left Liverpool

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 12:31 pm

Rumour on Twitter is that Dalglish has left Liverpool

and Martinez is 5/1 fav to take over.

happy Birthday Gav cake

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 12:34 pm

Stimulating interview with Alan Shearer on SSN right now, hoping Barton makes an appearance.

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 12:35 pm

ive just bought 4 x Neymar on FIFA12UT for a total of 23,300.
Going to sell them each for 7000 buy now. idf the sell I make 4700 prifit OOSH

by **Afro** Tue 15 May 2012, 12:48 pm

Hero wrote:Rumour on Twitter is that Dalglish has left Liverpool

It's a sad day if true. He was taking that club in the right direction...

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 12:51 pm

Downwards

Giggs has got Player of the last 20 seasons at the Premier League awards.

by sodhat Tue 15 May 2012, 12:52 pm

Hero wrote:Downwards

Giggs has got Player of the last 20 seasons at the Premier League awards.

That's hardly fair. If taken literally (as I am doing) he is the only one to play all 20 seasons...

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 12:54 pm

He has to have won it really though, he has the most trophies of any player in the English game.

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 12:56 pm

Well someone has been having fun on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinji_Kagawa

Notice the teams played for on the right.

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 1:02 pm

someone has indeed Hero.

Man United dominate both of the the Team of the 20 Years, fan and industry people ones. BOOM

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 1:06 pm

Anyone on FIFA12UT?? I have an In Form Soldado for sale if so.

by cherriesfna Tue 15 May 2012, 1:12 pm

on xbox
i have a doumbia eto'o team
pace much lol
also i hate A-levels hate my 1st exam this morning gr..........

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 1:13 pm

Ahhhhhhh, I FRICKING HATE the FIFA12UT web app. it gives you stupid token to bid on players, only 25 of them so if you locked in a bidding war it annoying.
I was bidding on an In Form Soldado, lost out because I ran out of tokens. He was sold for 4500, can sell him for 15,000.
Thats over 10,000 profit due to stupid web app.GRRRRR

by sodhat Tue 15 May 2012, 1:14 pm

Ah, A-levels hardly count these days... Just don't get a U!

I did appalingly on my A-levels but technically passed them all, seems like that's the barometer more than whether you got 4 A* grades.

That isn't to say don't try, but don't panic about them either...

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 1:15 pm

Cherris, I have 4 Neymars, beat that lol. All being sold tho.
I everytime I see doumbia I think of you. lol.
eto'o BOOM, wonder if I can make some monies on him.....

by cherriesfna Tue 15 May 2012, 1:16 pm

they are boring as sh**, i dunno why there isnt an A-Level in football
theres an A-level for airline cabin crew for crying out load

by cherriesfna Tue 15 May 2012, 1:17 pm

trust the xbox market is a lot different than the PS3 one.
a lot more people so 4700 for an IF is near impossible

by sodhat Tue 15 May 2012, 1:19 pm

cherriesfan wrote:they are boring as sh**, i dunno why there isnt an A-Level in football
theres an A-level for airline cabin crew for crying out load

I did Leisure Studies in A-Level. If you look up 'pointless course' in any dictionary, the definition is simply 'leisure studies'.

I got a D in it Laugh

I might as well have not turned up to the exam. By the second year of college I had mentally checked out and only really tried in one class.

by cherriesfna Tue 15 May 2012, 1:22 pm

what is leisure studies?

by sodhat Tue 15 May 2012, 1:27 pm

cherriesfan wrote:what is leisure studies?

I don't know.

All I know is I did two years of it. Apparently.

by cherriesfna Tue 15 May 2012, 1:29 pm

sodhat wrote:
cherriesfan wrote:what is leisure studies?

I don't know.

All I know is I did two years of it. Apparently.

is it rthe study of leasuire thing like swimming pools

by **Afro** Tue 15 May 2012, 1:31 pm

Hero wrote:Well someone has been having fun on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinji_Kagawa

Notice the teams played for on the right.

Does Sainty know that he is mentioned on Wikipedia? Also, does the caption alongside one of the pics really call him Cat face? Is that someone having fun, or a real nickname!?

by sodhat Tue 15 May 2012, 1:32 pm

cherriesfan wrote:
sodhat wrote:
cherriesfan wrote:what is leisure studies?

I don't know.

All I know is I did two years of it. Apparently.
is it rthe study of leasuire thing like swimming pools

It had a lot to do with sports centres and things, and there was nonsense about regulations and health and safety mixed in too. It wasn't the course I'd hoped it would be at all, I remember that much, but then all my courses were perennial disappointments because I'm a massively lazy learner.

I have an exam tomorrow morning for work, and I've still got a load of revising to do tonight! Laugh

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 1:33 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
Hero wrote:Well someone has been having fun on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinji_Kagawa

Notice the teams played for on the right.

Does Sainty know that he is mentioned on Wikipedia? Also, does the caption alongside one of the pics really call him Cat face? Is that someone having fun, or a real nickname!?

by The Special Juan Tue 15 May 2012, 1:34 pm

Afternoon all.

Scottish Cup Final is what I was missing Marky, cheers.

Cat face?

by **Hero** Tue 15 May 2012, 1:34 pm

David Gill just stated that Manchester United can and will attract some of the best players in the world.

by The Special Juan Tue 15 May 2012, 1:38 pm

Damn right. 1 titles goes to City on goal difference and suddenly we're smaller than them......

Dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam Oooooooooooooooon.

I like Lewandowski but do Man Utd need another striker?

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 1:40 pm

a lot more people so 4700 for an IF is near impossible

Nah cherries, trust that is near impossible, I just stubled across one. there is the odd one in the day time as people will put someone on the trade pile at say 4/5am for 6 hours which means they expire at 10/11am, but they dont think about that. Best time to sell is evening as more ppl online looking.

by cherriesfna Tue 15 May 2012, 1:41 pm

nick_fury wrote:
a lot more people so 4700 for an IF is near impossible
Nah cherries, trust that is near impossible, I just stubled across one. there is the odd one in the day time as people will put someone on the trade pile at say 4/5am for 6 hours which means they expire at 10/11am, but they dont think about that. Best time to sell is evening as more ppl online looking.

yh on xbxo the market has crashed cause peopel are spamming packs for TOTYs

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 1:42 pm

This is ridiculous, how man Man United fans here and not one has mentioned Sir Bobby Charlton's speech but me (this morning first post).

yh on xbxo the market has crashed cause peopel are spamming packs for TOTYs

Really, frick, hardly none on PS3. You xbox users have to pay for online gaming so your used to paying for stuff. Us PS3 dont pay so we dont like to lol

by The Special Juan Tue 15 May 2012, 1:43 pm

nick_fury wrote:This is ridiculous, how man Man United fans here and not one has mentioned Sir Bobby Charlton's speech but me (this morning first post).

What happened? Just logged on.

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 1:48 pm

I know youve just logged on TSC.

Manchester United end of season awards last night.
Valencia got fans and players, player of the year. Give him the Number 7 shirt I say.

"There should be 20 of these awards because all of my team-mates deserve one." - Antonio Valencia

Sir Bobby Charlton also did a very moving, inspirational speech

by The Special Juan Tue 15 May 2012, 1:49 pm

But where does that leave Michael Owen? Tumbleweed

Great guy, great player. This season he's really won me over. Definitely our player of the season (and over Rooney even though he's scored near 30 goals in the league).

by sodhat Tue 15 May 2012, 1:54 pm

Don't get me wrong, I like Valencia but when I've watched him sometimes his final ball seems a bit astray.

Other than that he's a deserved winner, very direct and always hard working.

by The Special Juan Tue 15 May 2012, 1:57 pm

You have the magic words: "Hard working". You don't see Nani and Young working as hard as him.

by nick_fury Tue 15 May 2012, 2:00 pm

direct as well, its what makes him dangerous. No fancy prancy poop like Nani. Just stright up get the job done.

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