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Post by HQ matt Fri 18 May 2012, 8:00 pm

Some big names in the lineups, should be an interesting final.

I dont know why but id really like to see toulon win this one.

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Post by HQ matt Fri 18 May 2012, 8:16 pm

apologies, didnt really dedicate much time, just wanted to see if anyone else was watching?

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Post by HQ matt Fri 18 May 2012, 8:19 pm

its a great game, good intensity. good quality as well except for wilkinson's first kick..

bia 6-3 toulon

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Post by robbo277 Fri 18 May 2012, 8:21 pm

I'm watching on my laptop. Picture's not great which is a little upsetting, but the noise is fantastic. Decent start to the match, I want Toulon to win as well.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 18 May 2012, 8:22 pm

Decent little start, but am flicking back and forth of the Ponty Llanelli game, and gotta admit it's slightly more exciting!

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Post by HQ matt Fri 18 May 2012, 8:24 pm

the HQ stands for 'High Quality' clearly I didnt meet that standard with the original post.

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Post by HERSH Fri 18 May 2012, 8:28 pm

I'd like to see Wilko win
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Post by HQ matt Fri 18 May 2012, 8:32 pm

doesnt look like there will be many tries at this stage.

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Post by robbo277 Fri 18 May 2012, 8:34 pm

Could you two take this elsewhere please?

Biarritz 9 - 9 Toulon after 30 minutes. This game could end up being settled on one moment of brilliance, or one horrible mistake.

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Post by HQ matt Fri 18 May 2012, 8:36 pm

wayne barnes is being a little trigger happy, there has been a few times where i feel he could have let play go on.

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Post by robbo277 Fri 18 May 2012, 8:38 pm

That looked bad. Yachvili makes it 12-9 and Balshaw gets taken out in the air off the restart. Could have been a yellow.

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Post by Morgannwg Fri 18 May 2012, 8:38 pm

robbo277 wrote:Could you two take this elsewhere please?

Biarritz 9 - 9 Toulon after 30 minutes. This game could end up being settled on one moment of brilliance, or one horrible mistake.

I thought the game was awful in the 20 mins I saw. I've flicked back to the WP play-off final now, so I don't suppose I have anything else to say.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 18 May 2012, 8:40 pm

If Biaritz have anyone with a brain on the pitch they could take Toulon apart here, very one dimensional defence, and I suspect Hari and co should just about work them out and unlock it soon enough.

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Post by robbo277 Fri 18 May 2012, 8:42 pm

Morgannwg wrote:
robbo277 wrote:Could you two take this elsewhere please?

Biarritz 9 - 9 Toulon after 30 minutes. This game could end up being settled on one moment of brilliance, or one horrible mistake.

I thought the game was awful in the 20 mins I saw. I've flicked back to the WP play-off final now, so I don't suppose I have anything else to say.

It's okay, but both teams are looking to kick a bit too much for my liking.

12-9 to Biarritz at half-time. 4/4 for Yachvili, 3/4 for Wilkinson.

Toulon's pack is something else though, and they've got Jenkins and Sheridan both coming in!


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Post by HQ matt Fri 18 May 2012, 8:43 pm

bluesman, im not so sure i think toulon look stronger up front, winning the collisions. biaritz look more tactically adept.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 18 May 2012, 8:44 pm

robbo

Scary prospect isn't it?? Roberts and Hayman aren't the most mobile or effective props around, with Sheridans sheer force and Geth around the park, added to JVN and Armitage they'll have a really effective pack!!!

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 18 May 2012, 9:06 pm

Out of interest, whats the difference between Haymans yellow and the Toulon tackle in the first half???


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Post by whocares Fri 18 May 2012, 9:11 pm

Marconnet last 40 minutes of rugby tonight , he does look more like a 1980s prop though!

agree with robbo, too much tactical kicking and lack of pace. Suit Biarritz defensive game well.
Toulon pack also missing Shaw and Botha tonight.

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Post by whocares Fri 18 May 2012, 9:13 pm

that was silly from the so called T14 player of the season ....

nervermind Armitage, Bastaraud is making a decent blind side flanker.

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Post by robbo277 Fri 18 May 2012, 9:31 pm

There just aren't any game-breaking backs to produce a magic moment to separate these teams. Ngwenya almost made something happened, then lobbed the ball back 30 yards for his full-back to boot it away.

Both teams are happy to play a low-risk game and although the intensity has been high it hasn't been the best viewing for the neutral.

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Post by wales606 Fri 18 May 2012, 9:38 pm

Yachvilli's hand may have won Biarittz the Amlin
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Post by robbo277 Fri 18 May 2012, 9:39 pm

Yachvili kicks Biarritz to 21-18 with 5 minutes to go, but was lucky to stay on the pitch moments earlier after cynically grabbing Tillas-Borde's foot whilst on the ground. The incident, in kicking range, was missed by the officials at 18-18.

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Post by gelodge Fri 18 May 2012, 9:44 pm

Poor quality game. Barnes' decision making has been equally lacking. Yachvili is just filth.

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Post by Notch Fri 18 May 2012, 9:45 pm

Biarritz with their very own Neil Back moment! Last chance, clock in the red...
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Post by Notch Fri 18 May 2012, 9:48 pm

And Biarritz do it! Man, I feel for the Toulon fans. They should have had a three point lead and a man advantage.

They should have also had a red card and made a right bollox of a great field position in the end.

All people will talk about is Yachvillis foul on Tillous-Borde, but he's just a dream of a player. Fan-tastic. Love watching him.
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Post by timhen Fri 18 May 2012, 9:49 pm

Great, just what everyone wanted, Biaritz spoiling next year's HC with another series of dirgefests.

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Post by robbo277 Fri 18 May 2012, 9:50 pm

Biarritz win 21-18, there players are absolutely ecstatic at the final whistle.

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Post by whocares Fri 18 May 2012, 9:51 pm

silly from Toulon at the end....why they were not going for the Drop goal ? bad decision from tillous bordes...
cant believe we will have to put with Biarritz in the HC again and Yachvili MOTM ffs...

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Post by Killer_B_6 Fri 18 May 2012, 10:07 pm

Terrible game.

Toulon have spent a lot but still seem to have a load of mediocre players. I wish I could have the job as their Director of Recruitment. The guy in charge now has no idea how to build a squad.

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Post by alcoombe Fri 18 May 2012, 10:35 pm

Urgh, I had been hoping we wouldn't have to put up with Biarritz in the HC again next year. I can't think when (if ever) I've enjoyed a game they've played in. I fell asleep in the middle of that one. Toulon look like they had themselves to blame from most of what I saw though. You'd think with Wilkinson & Giteau in the side they'd be able to better execute a kicking game. Bastareaud and Palisson could have done with a bit more ball, and David Smth could have done with a lot less, he was terrible.

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Post by robbo277 Fri 18 May 2012, 11:38 pm

Toulon are signing some decent backs this year (Michalak, Mermoz, Durand, Delon and Guy Armitage), but they seriously lacked invention today. So did Biarritz, but Yachvili managed to pull them through.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 19 May 2012, 7:10 am

Both teams have little to no invention in attack and unless the opposition crumple under their packs they pretty much run out of ideas as we saw in this match.

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 19 May 2012, 7:58 am

How did flavour of the month Steffon do?


Thing about Toulon's recruitment is so often they are signing big names after their peak.

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Post by HQ matt Sat 19 May 2012, 9:00 am

i havent watched much french rugby this year, this game started brightly with good intensity levels, good kicking and defense but like everyone has said both sides failed to threaten the others try line, disappointing in the end.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Sat 19 May 2012, 9:31 am

I've removed last night's childish little bickering exchange
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Post by robbo277 Sat 19 May 2012, 10:12 am

LondonTiger wrote:How did flavour of the month Steffon do?


Thing about Toulon's recruitment is so often they are signing big names after their peak.

Decent, but not spectacular. Solid at the breakdown with one turnover sticking in my mind, but he dropped a high ball and when he got a chance to run he got isolated and stripped (although the Biarritz player's momentum took him into touch and Toulon got the line-out).

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Post by wales606 Sat 19 May 2012, 11:18 am

robbo277 wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:How did flavour of the month Steffon do?


Thing about Toulon's recruitment is so often they are signing big names after their peak.

Decent, but not spectacular. Solid at the breakdown with one turnover sticking in my mind, but he dropped a high ball and when he got a chance to run he got isolated and stripped (although the Biarritz player's momentum took him into touch and Toulon got the line-out).

and got yellow carded
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Post by Feckless Rogue Sat 19 May 2012, 1:29 pm

I have to say I'm delighted Toulon didn't win. They're just trying to buy success with foreign mercenaries. Their contribution to French rugby is precisely zero. I hope for rugby's sake that they fail to win anything.
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Post by beshocked Mon 21 May 2012, 11:52 am

robbo277 wrote:Toulon are signing some decent backs this year (Michalak, Mermoz, Durand, Delon and Guy Armitage), but they seriously lacked invention today. So did Biarritz, but Yachvili managed to pull them through.

Wow, how many players do Toulon need to bring in!?

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