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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed May 23, 2012 8:27 pm

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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Waiting List
1. pullthestrings
2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:44 pm

Not to take anything away from Rennie because he was outstanding but thats a good case for stats being misleading for me.

It was mostly pick and drives in the tight so tackle rates were always going to be very high and any forward worth his salt shouldn't be missing anything from a pick and go or from such slow ball.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:45 pm

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:45 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:These stats have to take the weather into account. The majority of these tackles were people running straight at you. very impressive but need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

So true so many tackles close to ruck. Props never get the opportunity to make that many in the dry.

Gray always has a high tackle count. Can't understand how he is so mobile.

Rennie and stroks magnificent.

Could never play that backrow in the dry as it has no ball carriers but well done jocks played the conditions

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:46 pm

For all of them, it's still tiring constantly making tackles and that's when the concentration goes you end up missing one. For them to miss none is huge for me.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:48 pm

I mean that I'm not as impressed by this as I am when Thierry Dusatoir made 36 against the AB's in Cardiff

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Post by stnick88 Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:48 pm

Mapusua, bod and jdv the best centre defenders iv ever seen

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:03 pm

Frank bunce best I have seen

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:22 pm

Rob Henderson was pretty awesome defensively, especially when playing alongside Waters - always gutted when Abbott got injured and had to retire, thought he would have been the ideal replacement for Greenwood.

Ah the good old days when Wasps were good...

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:23 pm

If anyone fancies playing any friendlies against other teams over the next few weeks, I'm happy to stick a thread up each week and people can predict if they want, just to keep everyone ticking over.

No bonuses for predicting though.

You'd have to organise the friendly with another manager yourself and let me know to put it on the thread. Up to you to define any conditions like youth/overseas players etc.

Let me know if anyone wants it doing.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:27 pm

Iam up for a friendly. Would rather have one against someone I won't play in the Summer Championship group but not to bothered.

Away till thursday now but can do team etc for friday

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:24 am

I missed the Aus v Scotland game earlier as I was fast asleep.

How did Dave Dennis and Dan Palmer go?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:53 am

Not bad Arry, odd game really. Weather was awful.

Mills looks a real prospect, reckon this U20 side could do well when they settle.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:26 am

Mills has bulked
Up lots since last year which will help. Genuine creator at 12 which is rare
In England

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:09 am

Not done this for a while.....your English XV

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:13 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Not done this for a while.....your English XV

Do you mean for Saturday pooly ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:15 am

No just in general from your own side

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:33 am

Tricky English XV from your own team! Think mine would be...

1. Ben Moon
2. Dylan Hartley
3. Henry Thomas
4. Joe Launchbury
5. Courtney Lawes
6. James Craig
7. Jake Abbott
8. Jackson Wray
9. Joe Simpson
10. George Ford
11. Chris Ashton
12. Manu Tuilagi - cheating a bit there!
13. Matt Tait
14. Christian Wade
15. Danny Cipriani

16. Rob Webber
17. Mako Vunipola
18. Danny Herriot
19. Billy Vunipola
20. Ben Nutley
21. Sam Harrison
22. Tom Stephenson - next big player coming through at Saints, very, very good.
23. Elliot Daly

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:33 am

1 wood
2 gray
3 harden
4 palmer
5 robson
6 savage
7 saull
8 do not have one
9 Lewis/robson
10 lamb
11 jsd
12 hape:mills
13 may
14 sharples
15 balshaw

How quick is that backline

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:42 am

Chris has to be cocky & name a 23! Some serious backlines on show

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Post by CJB Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:46 am

1 Jon Golding
2 Chris Brooker
3 Dave Wilson
4 Louis Deacon
5 James Percival
6 James Haskell
7 David Seymour
8 Tom Guest
9 Richard Wigglesworth
10 Charlie Hodgson
11 Tom Varndell
12 Anthony Allen
13 Sam Hill
14 Olly Woodburn
15 Jack Arnott

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:49 am

Good side ITFL

1. Waller
2. Mears
3. PDJ
4. Slater
5. Parling
6. Robshaw
7. J.Robinson
8. York

9. Youngs
10. Flood
11. Benjamin
12. Barritt
13. Williams
14. Kichbrige
15. Goode

My issue is I have a handful involved with England set up and then a gap to people like Waller, Williams, York etc who arent prem regulars.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:49 am

Pooly I think what was cockier there was leaving Ben Foden out of the match day 23 altogether, he wont be happy there.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:50 am

Yea hes dire that Foden bloke

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:50 am

1. Andrew Sheridan
2. Tom Youngs
3. Dan Cole
4. Tom Denton
5. Simon Shaw
6. Tom Croft
7. James Scaysbrook
8. Thomas Waldrom

09. Micky Young
10. Jonny Wilkinson
11. Ugo Monye
12. Billy Twelvetrees
13. Rory Clegg
14. Jordan Crane
15. Rob Miller


Crane awesome on the wing....

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:54 am

My reserves would be hanks George Payne Lewis Diggin mills and then not much else

Few u 19s forwards coming through also should help

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:54 am

Haha....prob better putting Crane at 6 and Croft on wing Wink

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:03 am

1. Catt
2. Britton
3. Budgie/Tomas
4. Kohn
5. Denton
6. Myall
7. Walker
8. Morgan
9. ??
10. Heathcote
11. Garvey
12. Vesty
13. Hopper
14. Morgan/Chesters
15. Cook

Quite like the look of my 4-8!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:02 am

15. Jack Nowell
14. Tom Homer
13. Henry Trinder
12. Tom Casson
11. Mark Cueto
10. Owen Farrell
9. Paul Hodgson

1. Matt Mullan
2. George Chuter
3. Alex Corbisiero
4. George Skivington
5. Steve Borthwick
6. Tom Johnson
7. Luke Wallace
8. Alex Gray

Bit of a cheat with Corbs at tighthead. Could have stuck Swainston there, interested to see how he goes at Wasps this season.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:05 am

He'll be good Pete - Leeds produce some good talent in the pack and premiership teams just take them and make them better - got one of the best youth development teams by some distance.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:05 am

We have best front 5 I think pete

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:14 am

Think Luke sneaks front row personally, you've got a good engine room Matt. Like ITFL's Backrow, Props & Petes centres and Chris back 3 (with Foden!)

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:16 am

Lll takes front row agree on reflection

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:55 am

I'll join in:

1. Imolek
2. Paice
3. Harrison
4. Attwood
5. Day
6. Kvesic
7. Harrison
8. Emerson (Junior academy got desperate here!)
9. Care
10. Barkley
11. Strettle
12. JTH
13. Addison
14. Smith
15. Abendanon

As another take on it what would peoples academy age sides look like?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:31 am

My academy side would be

15. Jack Nowell
14. Nathan Earle
13. Jaco Taute
12. Patric Lambie
11. Thomas Chapman
10. Owen Farrell
9. James Lightfoot-Brown

1. Steven Kitshoff
2. Christopher Tolofua
3. Frans Malherbe
4. Addison Lockley
5. Ruan Botha
6. Siya Kolisi
7. Luke Wallace
8. Alex Gray

Wingers the main issue for me although Earle and Chapman I think are in the England U18's.
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Post by CJB Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:49 am

1 ?
2 Will Tanner
3 Kane Palma Newport
4 Tom Ellis
5 Jake Oldaker
6 Brad Shields
7 Joe Buckle
8 Will Skuse
9 Chris Cook
10 Gareth Anscombe
11 George North
12 Steven Shingler
13 Sam Hill
14 Olly Woodburn
15 Stuart Hogg

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:59 am

* - full int

1. Luke Cowan-Dickie
2. Nathan Morris
3. Scott Wilson
4. Joe Robinson
5. Jonny Gray
6. Joe Conlon
7. Euan Dodds
8. Toby Faletau*

9. J-M Doussain*
10. Henry Slade
11. Andy Forsyth
12. Scott Williams*
13. Sam Jones
14. Zak Kibiridge
15. Joel Hodgson

Had to cheat a little...

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:13 am

When did you get Cowan dickie ??????

Looks great in loose of he learns to not throw the ball anywhere. Needs a bit of bulk. Big th yesterday butchered him then went off after 30. LCD murdered Italian reserve and is highly rated at Exeter.

Good buy pooly

1. Heard
2. George
3
4 etzbeth * int
5 savage
6 Evans
7 woodburn
8 Botha * in current bok squad
9 tj perenara
10 goosen/ burns
11 sharples *int
12 mills
13 may
14 Clarke ( tiny Wing scores millions every time played. Defence poor. Like cruden cips and any small person he loses confrontations. 12 stone currently )
15 Charlie Walker

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:14 am

1. Jefferson Poiret
2. Tommy Taylor
3. Ross Harrison
4. Brodie Retalick
5. Johnny Kenny (Eng U18)
6. Luke Whitelock
7. Temeni Harrison
8. Matt Kvesic

9. Ben Spencer
10. Beuden Barrett
11. Craig Gilroy
12. Gael Fickou
13. Will Addison
14. Tom Brady
15. Jean-Marcellin Buttin

Have to say Petes front row even at that age is kinda scary looking!

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:17 am

Sje you win hands down For backline

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:20 am

Got some good youth in there Johnny, if half of them make step up you'll be doing well.

Dickie looks promising, think his fist year at that level?? Carries well and good technique. Actually reminds me a bit of Kitschoff although the Ginger one a fair bit ahead currently.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:22 am

That said your backs may have issues defence wise. Outside half average 4-6 tackles a match and barrett missed about 50.

With good ball I prefer him to cruden. However kicking and general play not as good as he is young. He is a game tackler just awful. Unlike Carlos he will learn to tackle

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:23 am

Gilroy is a good signing also.

Really impressed by your transfers

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:58 pm

What do people make of Sakaria Taulafo - apparently ripped it up for Samoa when they beat Tonga.

Think my academy backline would be something like:

9. Alex Day (Eng u18)
10. George Ford
11. Christian Wade
12. Ashley Beck
13. Manu Tuilagi
14. Elliot Daly
15. Jack Wallace

Though hopefully will be adding a pretty good f/b soon!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:02 pm

He's hit and miss Chris. Seen him have some good games, also seen him take some beatings.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:15 pm

Championship/National League bidding is open...

https://www.606v2.com/t30375-championship-national-league-bidding-page
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:17 pm

Ashley Beck isn't academy

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:19 pm

He's 21 I think?

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:21 pm

Nope 22 - good job I hadnt put him in my academy properly then!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:23 pm

You need to sort your academy out when you're back from holiday Chris, did you see the rules for academies that I posted on your page mate?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:23 pm

Reason I didn't sign him Chris, really good player though

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