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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 10:37 am

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England unchanged. Rampaul and Shillingford in for the Windies.

Windies win the toss and will bat. A great toss to win - runs galore today.

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 1:13 pm

eirebilly wrote:South Africa will be very difficult. England have some very good grounds for swing bowling which is the main bowling strength but the Saffers have some decent swing bowlers as well. That will be a cracking series Very Happy

The Perth Test when Mitchell got his radar working and blew us away shows that this side has, or at least had, a weakness against really good fast bowling. Morkel and Steyn might be able to do us. I think we have an attack that threatens anyone, especially at home, but I worry that our batting might not be up to it.

Yeah, real shame the Test series vs SA is only 3. Ditch some 50 over crap and make room!

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 1:15 pm

I'd gladly sacrifice 2-3 ODIs for a test match. Any more than 2 T20 games is overkill.

We've had 3 tests and 7 ODI series in recent times. 4-5 tests and 5 ODIs would be much better.
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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 1:17 pm

84-4. As usual, a poor early session for the West Indies. Their top order is so weak that only lack of early wicket would surprise anyone.
Anderson was superb and Broad was pretty good. Bresnan also produced some cracking deliveries.
Again s usual, Shiv Chanderpaul is resisting for the West Indies, with relatively more dificulties I must say.
Will he ply another typical Chanderpaul to frustrate England? More importantly, will Samuels and the rest of the batting lineup including wicket keeper Ramdin and all-rounder Sammy be able to put up some resistance?
Shillingford is a capable slogger lower down the order, and Rampaul could hit a long ball and at times stick around. At least, the tail looks better placed to put up 30-40 runs on a good day.
The WI will certainly need the rest of the lineup to bat with at most sense, and they would obviously need some luck against these quality bowlers.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:05 pm

89/4 then so far - I'd take that since the sun is baking down and the pitch looks good. Chanderpaul is the key wicket and probably has been since Lara retired so come on England!

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 2:13 pm

The pressure is mounting here. Has to be a wicket soo i feel.
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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:13 pm

Samuels has done well so far not to leave Chanders out in the cold. Is he at last coming off age?

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 2:16 pm

Things have rather settled down since lunch... Both batsmen seem more comfortable though the run rate has dropped right away.
Bit of donkey work for Bresnan coming up I think.

And I suppose if he doesn't get a breakthrough we will see a lot of "why not Finn" posts...

Still Jimmy for now though ...but not for much longer unless he gets a wicket ...this will be his fifth since the interval and he bowled nine in the first spell. Interesting to see him attacking Samuels from around the wicket.

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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:17 pm

cricinfo says Swanny hasn't picked up a test wicket at his home ground. Surely time to change all that Swanny? Come on, get the big one of all!!.

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 2:21 pm

Somewhat explainable when you consider the damage swing bowlers do.
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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 2:23 pm

Yeah he's not bowled many overs, in fairness.

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 2:24 pm

This what the Windies should have been doing this morning. Much more measured and careful.

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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:25 pm

So an attacking shot from Chanderpaul after a long time. He had started quickly but then settled down for the long. Yet again it seems the opposition will have to focus on the batsman at the other end. Wonder what would have happened if WI had another good solid batsman in their lineup!.

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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:27 pm

WI reached their hundred, Samuels playing his shots, better be careful not to get carried away.
Swann going for a few in this over, a wicket would let him settle nicely!.

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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:29 pm

By the look of things, it seems Swanny will have to bowl a lot more overs than he did in the past 2 tests he played in his home ground. And a couple have turned from him, so he'll have a greater role in this game.
Tim B is back on, replacing Anderson.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 2:29 pm

These two won't be moved today.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 2:33 pm

Thats the way trebbs OK
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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 2:37 pm

England drying up the runs here ....

Won't worry Shiv but Samuels may get itchy and take a risk.

The pitch looks a good one for batting , so if this partnership goes long , as at Lords , West Indies could yet recover to a decent total...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 2:40 pm

These two are forming an impossibly good partnership, eng have nothing to break it, impossible.

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 2:41 pm

Nice cut Samuels...fifty partnership.

Still Swann wicket less at TB ...

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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:41 pm

Samuels is fighting away, England need a wicket soon. Another fine shot from Samuels here.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 2:52 pm

This is an excellent partnership. Really what the Windies needed.
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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 2:53 pm

Brilliant ball and review from Swann and he gets the Big One Yahoo

Now the door is ajar...

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 2:54 pm

Swann breaks his Trent Bridge duck with the wicket of Chanderpaul. The beginning of the end?

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 2:54 pm

Swanny!! Shiv is his bunny! Wink

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 2:54 pm

Its all in the timing Wink
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Post by Duty281 Fri 25 May 2012, 2:54 pm

Well done eirebilly, great jinx! Swann has got the wicket of Chanders, 125/5 - let's get 'em out for 200, come on England!

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 2:55 pm

I didn't gather in all that how Chanderpaul was actually out. lbw?

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 2:56 pm

Massive chance to keep the Windies under 200 now.
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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 2:56 pm

Swann gets Chanders LBW.

Swann has his first test wicket at TB

Doors open now
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 3:04 pm

Utterly crucial. Chanders gone and the other wall that's the samuelman is still there and he will not be moved.

Great battle.

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 3:04 pm

Bresnan rather lost his radar there...most unusual and a harsh (to Prior) call of byes...

Swann hasn't got any left handlers left now but he is looking a bit dangerous here. Feel if another wicket goes soon this innings might just fold up.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 3:05 pm

This puts pressure on with chanders gone fairly early.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 3:05 pm

Before that wicket I was just furiously typing how it is ridiculous that the supposed best side in the world simply cannot get Chanderpaul out. He does well against everyone, granted, but it is ludicrous that we just have no clue how to remove him (in hindsight, the Swann lbw is the best bet!).

We certainly operate with a resigned air when bowling to him, that is for sure. Not good.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 3:06 pm

Rauf having a bad day today, by the way. Didn't someone mention the possibility of that earlier?!

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 3:07 pm

Ramdin bowled by Bresnan! About time Tim did something, he has been average today.

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 3:07 pm

... Was about to say Bresnan was having rather a poor second spell when ...bingo !

Bye bye Ramdin Smile

Kept a bit low , did it not?

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Post by Duty281 Fri 25 May 2012, 3:08 pm

Well done Bresnan, 136/6, not much batting left now.

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 3:09 pm

You have to feel sorry for Chanderpaul. One of the best batsman of his generation spending so much time with such inept teammates.
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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 3:10 pm

No , on second viewing just nipped back in and did him like a kipper...

Nice piece of bowling.

Sammy and Samuels with not much to follow...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 3:10 pm

Oh that's pressure,

Probably the last real bat has fallen.


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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 3:18 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:Rauf having a bad day today, by the way. Didn't someone mention the possibility of that earlier?!

I commented on how good Dar was and joked I might have hexed him. You might be thinking of that.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 3:20 pm

I forgot about sammy. This samtastic pairing are going nowhere. Double ton in the offing.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 3:21 pm

300-6 at the close, Trebs?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 3:27 pm

I reckon 500 -2. They will play so well the umpires will give them extra wickets.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 25 May 2012, 3:31 pm

my sky go isnt working- there is cricket and golf on- furious

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 3:36 pm

Unless we take our foot off their necks, we might have them all not long after tea at this rate.

Boycott appears to be advocating removing sponsored cars from bowlers and making them walk everywhere, to improve their fitness....

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Post by Duty281 Fri 25 May 2012, 3:44 pm

154/6 at tea. Good two sessions of work by England, in 20 minutes they need to show the clinical edge and have a bit of a bat before stumps.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 25 May 2012, 3:58 pm

back on it, but ihave to listen to the radio because my technolgy has broken- comeon england- quick wicket lads

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 4:09 pm

Samuels to 50.

Patience required by England, ideal batting conditions.
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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 4:09 pm

He's a very frustrating batsmen Samuels don't you think?. Very nonchalant approach, sort of just dabs it away here and then with a couple of boundaries, very frustrating to watch, get's the job done. Sammy's technique also get's on my nerves, what's up with that front foot and arm movement with the bat?

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