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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 10:37 am

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England unchanged. Rampaul and Shillingford in for the Windies.

Windies win the toss and will bat. A great toss to win - runs galore today.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:19 pm

Runs are coming quick. They both look like its a struggle but lucking lots of fours and drops.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:19 pm

Evening alfie, all good down your way?

Great start by England here, could be a long day for the WI batsmen as Jimmy looks very much on form.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:19 pm

Finn would cause so many more problems than Bresnan does. I know Bresnan offers batting but if we can't score enough runs with the nine we would have plus Finn and Anderson we are in trouble
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:21 pm

Powell deserved to go there. Good catch but he was riding his luck and the score flattered him a bit.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:22 pm

Broad Very Happy
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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 12:22 pm

Dare one say Chanderpaul doesn't look quite so secure today ?

(Probably get 300 now Very Happy )

Great spell from Jimmy...Bresnan bowling well too
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...and Broad gets Powell ! Caught Anderson again...

Jimmy's day ?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:23 pm

You never remove chanders,not possible.

He is on a run a ball. What madness is this?



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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 12:23 pm

Brilliant from England. Broad with another wicket. Windies sinking without a trace.

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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 12:24 pm

great bowling but a few loose drives there, i tend to favour the good bowling argument being a bowler myself.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 12:24 pm

As do I, Martyr!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:26 pm

Nut cracker ouch.

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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 12:26 pm

new balls please

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:26 pm

Jimmy and Broad (especially Jimmy) have out-thought the batsmen and created these opportunities. You can say loose shots but i think that they have all been set up by the bowling.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 12:26 pm

Poor old Shiv. If you can't get round him, go through him... Shocked

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:27 pm

Shiv really is the nuts.

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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 12:27 pm

Gower sure knows how to kill a joke eh?

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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 12:28 pm

I am joining the debate, just as Shiv C is hit on a significant part by Broad and Chandrs in some trouble here.
West Indies can't afford this, they are already struggling on 63-4.

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 12:29 pm

Evening billy...

All good here ... Local Weather is foul but the view of Trent Bridge is perfect on the TV and I am looking forward to watching some excellent cricket , while sipping a scotch or two ,with the weekend tomorrow to sleep in...

Thought Jimmy might have a good day here - he does love this ground!

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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 12:31 pm

Well done Bresnan, this looks plum

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 12:31 pm

eirebilly wrote:Jimmy and Broad (especially Jimmy) have out-thought the batsmen and created these opportunities. You can say loose shots but i think that they have all been set up by the bowling.

A really great bowler seems sometimes to mesmerise his victims. Swing bowlers especially - Hadlee was also great at it.

Oooh. Wicket?

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 12:31 pm

Bresnan joins the party !

Samuels wants a review but I reckon he's gone...

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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 12:32 pm

over the top!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:32 pm

Samwell given out but reviews.

Survives.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:32 pm

Over the stumps. Not out
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:32 pm

I reckon we see a solid double hundred partnership here. Unmovable.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 12:34 pm

Looked plumb to me at first glance but good decision.



Alfie, its 13:30 here and 32 degrees I wont swap weather with you Wink


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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 12:34 pm

...blimey , would never have thought that was going way over !

But I must bow to Hawkeye .

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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 12:34 pm

Samuels saved by the review there, too high.

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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 12:36 pm

its a cracking ground trent bridge, should definately get an ashes test whenever the next home series is. is it 2013/14?

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 12:36 pm

You can say loose shots but i think that they have all been set up by the bowling.

Yeah, but they don't have to play the shots they are getting out to. Sir Viv and the TMS lot blaming poor technique combined with inexperience - also acknowledging Jimmy has had a great spell.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 25 May 2012, 12:38 pm

Chanders score is amazing. This would normall be 18 off 80.

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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 12:38 pm

Nice wicket before lunch to break this partnership and England will be batting by tea. Looks like England have finally worked out how to bowl to Shiv, he's looking uncomfortable out there.

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Post by msp83 Fri 25 May 2012, 12:40 pm

Aggers on TMS called it notout right away. He said too high, Looked out live, but well spotted by Aggers there.

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 12:41 pm

Some good bowling now from Bresnan...beats Marlon with an outie now...

West Indies would be rapt to get to lunch without losing another one...not placing bets.

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 12:45 pm

Why TB isn't an auto selection for tests is beyond me.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 12:47 pm

Pearl of Boycott wisdom: "Y'caan't win a Test Match ont first day. But yCAN lose it."

He's blaming poor footwork.

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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 12:52 pm

Looks like England have finally worked out how to bowl to Shiv, he's looking uncomfortable out there.

chuckle. Honestly think the best plan is to keep hitting him in the nuts.

Time for a couple of overs from Swann before lunch?

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 12:53 pm

Swanns Cat, agreed. We should play to our strengths. Tests should always be held at Lord's (obviously), Edgbaston, Trent Bridge, The Oval and then after that the others should come in to it.

If it is a three or four Test series then those grounds I mentioned should be chosen, simple as that.

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 12:54 pm

Warne gets his way .

Swann on.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 25 May 2012, 12:54 pm

Sweet - what a start by england

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 12:56 pm

Yeah Fists, I get touring the country is good for revenue and such, but especially when we play the likes of Australia, SA and India, we should pick the grounds that offer the best conditions for us and harshest tests for opponents.
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Post by Liam Fri 25 May 2012, 12:57 pm

Couple of balls already from Swann keeping low, Samuels very good hitting the ball straight. Need a short mid wicket and drop mid on back three quarters and try and look for the lbw/inside edge

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 25 May 2012, 12:59 pm

Yeah, South Africa should be playing at the grounds where England are best suited.

Flabbergasted that there isn't a Test at Edgbaston for either that series or the Ashes, considering our rich history there.

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 1:02 pm

If we go to play in sub continent conditions, we should expose them to harsh swing Smile
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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 1:03 pm

South Africa will be very difficult. England have some very good grounds for swing bowling which is the main bowling strength but the Saffers have some decent swing bowlers as well. That will be a cracking series Very Happy
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Post by Cowshot Fri 25 May 2012, 1:03 pm

Lunch: Windies 84-4 having chosen to bat, and only Shiv, it feels, between them and oblivion. England have bowled well, Anderson exceptionally so.

England have perhaps relaxed a bit in the last few overs? And a couple of chances dropped or missed. A good morning, though.

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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 1:04 pm

84-4 at lunch.

Knock over 1 of these and a few could follow. England will be disappointed not be batting sometime tonight at this rate I suspect
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Post by GSC Fri 25 May 2012, 1:05 pm

Play at the Oval, Headingley and Lords in tests vs SA.

All test series between the top 3 teams should be 5 matches tbh. Disappointed that the top 2 teams in the world only play 3 times.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 25 May 2012, 1:07 pm

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Play at the Oval, Headingley and Lords in tests vs SA.

All test series between the top 3 teams should be 5 matches tbh. Disappointed that the top 2 teams in the world only play 3 times.

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Post by alfie Fri 25 May 2012, 1:12 pm

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Play at the Oval, Headingley and Lords in tests vs SA.

All test series between the top 3 teams should be 5 matches tbh. Disappointed that the top 2 teams in the world only play 3 times.

Trouble is fitting all the opponents in , to fit in with the ICC four year plan or whatever they call it... Not to mention lots of ODIs and breaks for t20 Superleagues...

Agree it is daft though : I would accept four matches sometimes , but that should be an absolute minimum.

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