Ireland Team vs Barbarians

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Ireland XV (Team & Replacements v Barbarians, Kingsholm, Gloucester, Tuesday May 29th, 19:35):

15. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
14. Craig Gilroy (Dungannon/Ulster)*
13. Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
12. Paddy Wallace (Ballymena/Ulster)
11. Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster)*
10. Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster)
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)
1. Brett Wilkinson (Galwegians /Connacht)*
2. Mike Sherry (Garryowen/Munster)*
3. Declan Fitzpatrick (Dungannon/Ulster)*
4. Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster)
5. Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
6. John Muldoon (Galwegians/Connacht)
7. Chris Henry (Ballymena/Ulster)
8. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster)

Replacements:
16. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)
17. Ronan Loughney (Galwegians/Connacht)*
18. Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster)
19. James Coughlan (Dolphin/Munster)*
20. Paul Marshall (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)*
21. Nevin Spence (Ballynahinch/Ulster)*
22. Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster)

The match won't be televised, which is a real shame.
It's also worth noting that no Leinster players were considered for this game due to having played in the RaboDirect PRO12 final on Sunday.

Didn't realise Coughlan was on! Whoops.

Coughlan is on... Trimble must be at openside?

Coughlan came on for Henry

BBs 26 Irl 28

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I doubt he is injured, it would have said would it not? Why did Coughlan not come on?? Why is Trimble on for POM?

Relax. All part of the Kidney masterplan. Trimble comes in for Ferris, Gilroy takes his place in the squad, Kevin McLaughlin shifts to fullback.

Its our strange coach again. Boss out of the tour injured and an opportunity to see Marshall at this level - warming the bench

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Ah feic the Baa baas have a shot at goal to win the match!

I can't believe it! I thought the baa baas didn't kick penalties??

Felipe scores

BBs 29 Irl 28

Can Zebo or Gilroy do what Isa did on Sunday - try from KO?

rodders wrote:I can't believe it! I thought the baa baas didn't kick penalties??

They broke the tradition! We don't see it on TV and then they break the tradition too! Worst barbarians team ever!

Not quite

Ireland recover the kick off and run it to the BaaBaas 22 but Zebo bundled into touch.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

rodders wrote:I can't believe it! I thought the baa baas didn't kick penalties??

They broke the tradition! We don't see it on TV and then they break the tradition too! Worst barbarians team ever!

OH NO lol- poor ireland

I know!

Also, why did Marshall/Spence not get a chance?

This is the final nail in the coffin for Irish rugby...

Game over.

That's all she wrote; finishes 29-28 to the Barbarians. Sounds like a good game.

Thanks for coming

Dr Phil you barsteward!

rodders wrote:This is the final nail in the coffin for Irish rugby...

Well, even if it wasn't a capped international we saw two future international wings make their first appearances in green and bag their first tries!

Sorry, let me correct that; we didn't see two future international wings make their first appearances in green and bag their first tries!

Notch I would dearly love those two to be our wingers in two years time. Somehow the sceptic in me can't quite see it happening.

rodders wrote:This is the final nail in the coffin for Irish rugby...

To be fair Rodders you were predicting them to put 50 points on us and be destroyed by them.

We got 4 tries and Im a bit more hopeful.

As for this Barbarians don't kick penalties I never heard that before.

Sneaky barstewards those baa-baas... as soon as the TV cameras are gone they kick the pens! I can't feicin believe it!

In two years time I don't know who will be coach of Ireland.

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Conor O'Shea I hope. Obviously wing is a position we've amazing depth in so I'm happy to be patient whilst they earn their stripes.

Rava wrote:Notch I would dearly love those two to be our wingers in two years time. Somehow the sceptic in me can't quite see it happening.

I really hope you are wrong there Rava, and I think you may be. Zebo's going and I think after tonight, Gilroy may well be in with a real shout.

As predicted our back three excelled. Pity we didn't hear anything of Cave.

Well there we go. What can you say about that one? Virtually nothing as I mostly rely on my eyes to judge.

From the rolling texts it seems we have had a classic enough Irish game of first or second have huff and the other half no puff. Meaning I think it sounded like a non-80 minute game of intensity. But I'd have to see it to be certain. I know Declan looks for wily things when he has his players play these games (meaning I'm certain he was off thinking about the game in different terms to winning it) but... well, I don't know...sounded like a lot of flailing in between the try bits. Maybe I'm being overly harsh... four tries are nice, and to all intents and purposes our side was as much a scratch side as the Barbarian one...

From the IRFU feed
"Thank you for joining us here on O2 Match Day Live. Look out for more coverage of the summer tour here and on Sky Sports"

Seriously? 8 tries.. 6 senior debuts and not even a highlights reel? Sky sports getting the boot tomorrow. I've threatened before but didn't follow through. On 4 chanels tonight they had, ladies golf, cricket, speedway and .... fishing. Get out, out sky sports and take your bleedin ESPN with you and your smelly F1. Begone

Sounded like Wallace had a good game. Rava if our back 3 were scoring tries then I'd assume that Cave did his job tonight.

Sub most of that isnt even live either. Joke

I am actually fuming Mysty

Rava wrote:As predicted our back three excelled. Pity we didn't hear anything of Cave.

I was thinking the same. Surely though this proves that Earls belongs in the back three? He always has his best games there.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Rava wrote:As predicted our back three excelled. Pity we didn't hear anything of Cave.

I was thinking the same. Surely though this proves that Earls belongs in the back three? He always has his best games there.

He'll hate to hear you say that! For a guy who gets a lot of leverage from wing and back and kinda floats out to the wing even when playing centre..he sure does seem to have a grudge against anything other than 13. He bluntly says he dislikes any other position he's put in, is uncomfortable and he do NOT like. Strange man.

... so DOC replaces Tuohy, then despite having the extra height Ireland lose a lineout, field position and subsequent penalty to cost them the game? Is that a stat?

The Great Aukster wrote:... so DOC replaces Tuohy, then despite having the extra height Ireland lose a lineout, field position and subsequent penalty to cost them the game? Is that a stat?

Might not be an official stat but it sure is a question Sin é will be interested in, given that he won't have any visual clues to go on to support his counter arguments..... and there will be those!

I can't believe Dr Phil kicked that pen!

On a serious note I seem to have pulled my back out whilst watching the live text feed of the game

Rodders why are you surprised by the Baabaas kicking at goal.

I know Eric Elwood once scored 4 penalty kicks in one match while playing for Barbarians against the All Blacks.

When we played them in 2010 in Thomond Park they took several shots at goal.

It just goes against Baa-baas tradition to kick penalties stag.

Oh really? I thought it was an urban myth like how some people say the Lions have an uncapped player in the tour squad.

red_stag wrote:Oh really? I thought it was an urban myth like how some people say the Lions have an uncapped player in the tour squad.

That's actually another tradition from the Baa Baas. They normally always had one uncapped player in their squad and they would never kick the ball no matter what. Their aim was to entertain and run it from everywhere.

Not sure its a hard and fast rule but its kind of against the Barbarians ethos, which is to play open rugby and run the ball.

Val - I know its a Barbarians traditon about the upcapped guys and the socks but I never heard about the no kicking.

Yeah I'm a tad disappointed by that. With the advent of professionalism it seems in order to justify it's existence the baa baas have to win games. Not so from my perspective.

I don't give two hoots anyway. We got closer than I thought we would. Gilroy two trys. I'm delighted although why Paul marshall wasn't used with boss out is really quite poor IMO

Look, did a Barbarian ever play fair? Check out the movies, the answer is NO. End of! (as all the fashionable belligerents say )

The outcomes of these games is pretty meaningless, both Wales and England lost to them last year - It was an opportunity for a few young Irishmen to pull on the green jersey and a decent run out to try some combinations.

Yes which is why Marshall and Spence not coming on is such a poor call.