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Post by azania Thu 31 May 2012, 8:41 pm

Now that the country's about to celebrate the world's biggest benefit scrounger reigning for 60 years over you guys, which fights since 1952 stands out either in terms of excitement or impact.

The obvious one is Ali/Liston.



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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 31 May 2012, 8:48 pm

azania wrote:Now that the country's about to celebrate the world's biggest benefit scrounger reigning for 60 years over you guys, which fights since 1952 stands out either in terms of excitement or impact.

The obvious one is Ali/Liston.


This is the most fitting description I have heard about the old bag that doesn't set off the swear filter.
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 31 May 2012, 8:53 pm

God Save the Queen heart

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Post by Steffan Thu 31 May 2012, 8:53 pm

I dont pay tax but if I did I would be very angry that bag gets the best living out of it

Oh and in my lifetime...it wasnt the biggest fight ever but the hype building up to Tyson v Bruno 1 was pretty epic and I struggle to remember a more anticipated fight over here (even though we knew Bruno would probably lose)

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Post by Steffan Thu 31 May 2012, 8:55 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:God Save the Queen heart
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

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Post by Nico the gman Thu 31 May 2012, 9:02 pm

The Smiths: The Queen is dead.
Her very highness with her head in a sling I'm truly sorry but it sounds like a wonderful thing ,the brilliant Morrissey.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 31 May 2012, 9:08 pm

Whats the Queen ever done to you?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 31 May 2012, 9:09 pm

Stole our hard earned money while the country goes down the toilet.
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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 31 May 2012, 9:11 pm

Steffan wrote:I dont pay tax but if I did I would be very angry that bag gets the best living out of it

Oh and in my lifetime...it wasnt the biggest fight ever but the hype building up to Tyson v Bruno 1 was pretty epic and I struggle to remember a more anticipated fight over here (even though we knew Bruno would probably lose)

Steff the hype was OTT was'nt it. I remember that fight clearly and just to give you an exarmple of how popular boxing was back then, my old PRIMARY school teacher was hyping it up.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 31 May 2012, 9:13 pm

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Stole our hard earned money while the country goes down the toilet.

What about the money she generates for the country, where does it go?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 31 May 2012, 9:14 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Stole our hard earned money while the country goes down the toilet.

What about the money she generates for the country, where does it go?

In her pocket.
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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 31 May 2012, 9:18 pm

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Stole our hard earned money while the country goes down the toilet.

What about the money she generates for the country, where does it go?

In her pocket.

You got to hand it to her tho, I mean 60 years pocketing out taxes and here we are handing her gifts.
She should have been a boxing promoter.

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Post by azania Thu 31 May 2012, 9:20 pm

If some 3rd world president decided to throw a 2 day party to celebrate his anniversary whilst his country was going down the pan, many would laugh and say "typical". This party will cost the economy billions in lost revenue and millions in staging the events. Let the scrounger pay her way. And pay taxes.

Anyway, Bruno Tyson is a good shout.

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Post by azania Thu 31 May 2012, 9:20 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Stole our hard earned money while the country goes down the toilet.

What about the money she generates for the country, where does it go?

In her pocket.

You got to hand it to her tho, I mean 60 years pocketing out taxes and here we are handing her gifts.
She should have been a boxing promoter.

Laugh

She'll offer slave contracts also.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 31 May 2012, 9:22 pm

For impact Eubank v Watson and Benn v McClelland. They made the BBBoC get their finger out and start looking after fighters health and safety.
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Post by azania Thu 31 May 2012, 9:24 pm

I'll add that Watson taking Duff to court to rid himself of the real slave contract and giving boxers more power is a great achievement. Great guy Michael.

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Post by Nico the gman Thu 31 May 2012, 9:28 pm

Good thing about the Jubilee though, extra day on the lash and don't have to get up next day.

God save the Queen, as I sink another pint of the black stuff.

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Post by bhb001 Thu 31 May 2012, 9:30 pm

Impa ct was probably Ali Liston as already said. Changed everything really and ushered in a excellent age for Heavies. But I personally would go for the Rumble in the Jungle myself. Hyped to heaven before and lived up to it.


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Post by eddyfightfan Thu 31 May 2012, 9:37 pm

in my life time:- lewis vs tyson, hamed vs barrera (i do live in sheffield though) and more recently haye vs wlad in terms of potential build up (many thought haye would come in and reshake the division from the bottom up)

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Post by azania Thu 31 May 2012, 9:39 pm

bhb001 wrote:Impa ct was probably Ali Liston as already said. Changed everything really and ushered in a excellent age for Heavies. But I personally would go for the Rumble in the Jungle myself. Hyped to heaven before and lived up to it.

Did the fight actually live up to expectations? Looking at it again, it wasn't the most exciting of fights. It was an event and was totally shocking how it ended. No-one expected the bully beat-down that occurred. But as a fight in itself, it wasn't the best.

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 31 May 2012, 9:43 pm

I take great offense to some of the posts in this thread.

The Jubilee and the royal wedding got me/will get me 8 days double pay.

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Post by bhb001 Thu 31 May 2012, 9:47 pm

Azania, you make a good point, but it's still discussed as a classic today, where strategy beat power. So I still see it as a class fight with far reaching ramifications. Let's be fair, Foreman was never the same force after this fight. If he had of won, he would have remained the dominant force for the next 3 to 5 years in my humble

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Post by azania Thu 31 May 2012, 9:52 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:I take great offense to some of the posts in this thread.

The Jubilee and the royal wedding got me/will get me 8 days double pay.

Git

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Post by azania Thu 31 May 2012, 9:53 pm

bhb001 wrote:Azania, you make a good point, but it's still discussed as a classic today, where strategy beat power. So I still see it as a class fight with far reaching ramifications. Let's be fair, Foreman was never the same force after this fight. If he had of won, he would have remained the dominant force for the next 3 to 5 years in my humble

I totally agree. When Floyd and Manny fight it will be a superfight. When SRR and Hagler fought it was a mega fight. When Ali fought, the world almost stood still. It was an event which made front page news across the globe.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Fri 01 Jun 2012, 7:10 am

Its actually the DIAMOND JUBILEE thumbsup

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 9:44 am

Steffan wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:God Save the Queen heart
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

I love the Sex Pistols as well TH Very Happy

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I'm an unapologetic fan of the Queen, love the Royal family and, as a higher rate tax-payer, would rather see a few pence going to them than it being piddled up the wall on chav scumbags who just spend it on drugs and Sky TV living in their free homes and generallying raping the system.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 9:45 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:Stole our hard earned money while the country goes down the toilet.

What about the money she generates for the country, where does it go?

Her impact on our balance of payments is epic and the whole country would be poorer without her. Plus from 2013 onwards she won't even be tax payer funded so the republicans and naysayers can shove that argument up their jacksies.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 9:48 am

azania wrote:If some 3rd world president decided to throw a 2 day party to celebrate his anniversary whilst his country was going down the pan, many would laugh and say "typical". This party will cost the economy billions in lost revenue and millions in staging the events. Let the scrounger pay her way. And pay taxes.

Anyway, Bruno Tyson is a good shout.

No more will be lost than when the RMT decides to strike because it's members, already being some of the best paid people in the country, fancy another inflation busting pay-rise.

Plus the economy is far from going down the pan, too much doomsday journalism.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 01 Jun 2012, 9:48 am

It is so boring when you sit on the fence, TopHat.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 9:49 am

alma wrote:
Steffan wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:God Save the Queen heart
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

I love the Sex Pistols as well TH Very Happy

amazing song

by a butter-peddling sell-out.......

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 9:54 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:It is so boring when you sit on the fence, TopHat.

lol, sorry Tino, very transparent I know.....

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 01 Jun 2012, 10:02 am

Apologies not required, TopHat. It was such a transparent OP in the first place. Az clearly wanted to say something political but then remembered to stick a boxing related question on the end of it.

If he was any more see-through he would be one of those translucent fish that live in caves and have no eyes.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 01 Jun 2012, 10:06 am

I for one enjoyed the Golden Jubilee celebrations.

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Post by Il Gialloblu Fri 01 Jun 2012, 10:20 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Apologies not required, TopHat. It was such a transparent OP in the first place. Az clearly wanted to say something political but then remembered to stick a boxing related question on the end of it.

If he was any more see-through he would be one of those translucent fish that live in caves and have no eyes.

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Anyway, it's 27 years since the miners' strike ended. Are boxers wasting the chance to earn money by being inactive?

It's also 21 years since the break up of Yugoslavia. Do you like Serb boxers or Croat boxers best?

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 01 Jun 2012, 10:28 am

Il Gialloblu wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Apologies not required, TopHat. It was such a transparent OP in the first place. Az clearly wanted to say something political but then remembered to stick a boxing related question on the end of it.

If he was any more see-through he would be one of those translucent fish that live in caves and have no eyes.

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Anyway, it's 27 years since the miners' strike ended. Are boxers wasting the chance to earn money by being inactive?

It's also 21 years since the break up of Yugoslavia. Do you like Serb boxers or Croat boxers best?

Thread locked soon?

Laugh

I would say yes to the first one, Croat for my second answer and not all that sure on the third one. You live in China, answer it yourself.

You did want sensible answers didn't you, Gialloblu?


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 10:46 am

Rather have a President myself!!! Just because someone gets his legover..you're destined for a life of indulgement and priviledge....

Not for me get rid of the lot of them.....

Head of state should be someone who's worked for that title...

Hagler-Hearns for me.........excitement

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 10:52 am

It's a ceremonial role, not head of state in an equivalent role. US President = UK PM.

Basically just a tourist attraction.

Agree your two fight choices tho.

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Post by Il Gialloblu Fri 01 Jun 2012, 10:59 am

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Il Gialloblu wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Apologies not required, TopHat. It was such a transparent OP in the first place. Az clearly wanted to say something political but then remembered to stick a boxing related question on the end of it.

If he was any more see-through he would be one of those translucent fish that live in caves and have no eyes.

clap

Anyway, it's 27 years since the miners' strike ended. Are boxers wasting the chance to earn money by being inactive?

It's also 21 years since the break up of Yugoslavia. Do you like Serb boxers or Croat boxers best?

Thread locked soon?

Laugh

I would say yes to the first one, Croat for my second answer and not all that sure on the third one. You live in China, answer it yourself.

You did want sensible answers didn't you, Gialloblu?

There was no third one Tino.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:05 am

Head of State!!! she has the powers to dissolve a government...The army takes an oath of allegiance to her..

Az having ulterior motives???

No..never!!

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:13 am

What's with all the Queen bashing!

She's been doing her thing before most of us were just a thought in our dad's mind!

Let the MILF enjoy herself! Also the pubs and supermarkets are loving so good for the economy plus we get a day off!

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Post by as1079 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:22 am

Queenie has very little power and is, as Tophat said, a ceremonial monarch. She's not doing any harm so let her sit on her insignificant throne. But can we at least have a new national anthem? Don't really enjoy asking God to save a woman who has got where she is by being born.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:23 am

Queenie has a lot of power....she chooses not to use it!!!

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Post by Union Cane Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:26 am

as1079 wrote:But can we at least have a new national anthem?

We'll get one when she dies mate.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:30 am

Not If Charles comes out of the closet!!! drumroll

Must be careful I'll end up in the Tower Braveheart

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Post by as1079 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:33 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Queenie has a lot of power....she chooses not to use it!!!

She really doesn't. It's true that she carries out certain 'duties' in relation to Parliament but these are simply ceremonial duties. If she refused to carry them out, she'd be overthrown and removed from her position. The fact that we don't have a written constitution means that she doesn't have a specific role which can be protected.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:35 am

Agree with as1079 (memorable name!) The Queen is a ceremonial monarch and we have various procedures purely for tradition.

She may have the power in principle but not in reality if she ever chose to put it in force. I'm sure she respects here position and knows this and it works for everyone.

I would however admit I hate our national anthem, not because of the words but just the sound the is awful. I want some African type one with lots of bongos and beat to get jiggy with!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:36 am

Look she is the head of the army!!!! so don't say she doesn't..

She has the last word on any constitutional crisis and any prospective Government has to get her blessing!!!

She has great power.........

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Post by as1079 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:37 am

Union Cane wrote:
as1079 wrote:But can we at least have a new national anthem?

We'll get one when she dies mate.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2kyNbZc7oc

Replace 'II' with 'III' and you've got the perfect national anthem...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:39 am

No point agreeing with him..

It's in the Queen's remit should she choose to do it............

to kick out the Prime minister tomorrow....army is sworn to her!!!

Like all of your monarchs dating back to henry the 8th she has huge power.......

She doesn't use it.....but silly to say she hasn't got huge power...

She's the biggest fish this Country has...

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Post by as1079 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:40 am

Valero's Conscience wrote:Agree with as1079 (memorable name!) The Queen is a ceremonial monarch and we have various procedures purely for tradition.

She may have the power in principle but not in reality if she ever chose to put it in force. I'm sure she respects here position and knows this and it works for everyone.

I would however admit I hate our national anthem, not because of the words but just the sound the is awful. I want some African type one with lots of bongos and beat to get jiggy with!

Exactly my opinion, but more eloquently put!

As for my name, I spent ages thinking of one but couldn't so went for the tried and tested method initials and house number!

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