Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
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Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
All of the below is by a fellow named jermainerambo from another forum. He obviously wanted to share it......
""joe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion he has had 24 championship fights has 3 ATGs on his resume
Roy Jones Jr
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins
Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
Mark Delaney 21-0
mikkel kessler 40-0 world champion
Mario Veit 30-0
jeff lacy 21-0 world champion
joe calzaghe beat 9 world champions 8 of them smw
Chris Eubank, was a 2 weight champion and had 24 world tltle fights
Richie Woodhall was a 2 weight champion and had 6 world tltle fights
Roy Jones Jr was a 4 weight champion and had 25 world tltle fights
Charles Brewer had 7 world tltle fights
Bernard Hopkins, the best middleweight of all time he has 25 world tltle fights
Mikkel Kessler, has 11 world tltle fights 3 x world champion SOON TO BE IBF CHAMPION
Robin Reid had 8 world tltle fights
Byron Mitchell had 8 world tltle fights 2 x smw champion
Jeff Lacy had 7 world tltle fights
if you add all these world champions title fight up it adds up to 121 world championship title fights
when has CARL FROCH beat someone with over 20 championship fights?......
calzaghe beat 3 guy with over 24 championship fights
NAME 1 ATG FROCH FOUGHT?........
JOE CALZAGHE IS 1 OUT OF ONLY 3 BOXERS IN HISTORY TO BE UNDISPUTED AND UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION
JOE CALZAGHE IS 1 OUT OF 4 MEN IN HISTORY TO HAVE OVER 20 TITLE DEFENCES
JOE CALZAGHE IS THE SECOND LONGEST-REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION IN HISTORY?.....
WHEN CARL FROCH RESUME MATCH THAT LET ME KNOW
CARL FROCH'S RESUME
CARL FROCH FOUGHT THE BEST BUT HE NEVER BEAT THEM......WARD/KESSLER
carl froch beat 1 SMW CHAMPION and beat 1 former smw champion
carl froch lost to 1 smw champion and lost to 1 former smw champion
froch is 2-2 at the elite level
His best wins are Lucian Bute and Robin Reid that the only guys that achieved something at 168
Jermain Taylor
Jean Pascal
Andre Dirrell
Arthur Abraham
Glen Johnson are all BUM'S contenders at best at 168 they never won a title at SMW so how can they be class as top wins
To the people that hype on about froch fighting away from home
taylor was shot
Arthur abraham was coming off a loss the fight was on neutral ground
johnson was 43 with 14 L L L L L L L L L L L L L L the fight was on neutral ground
KESSLER WAS COMING OFF A LOSS
All froch has done is won joe calzaghe vacant title made two defences loss to mikkel kessler...won kessler's vacant title made 2 defences and loss to andre ward then won a paper title that will soon be mikkel kessler's
WHEN CARL FROCH MAKES HISTORY LET ME KNOW""""
so that what he wrote, what do you think??
""joe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion he has had 24 championship fights has 3 ATGs on his resume
Roy Jones Jr
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins
Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
Mark Delaney 21-0
mikkel kessler 40-0 world champion
Mario Veit 30-0
jeff lacy 21-0 world champion
joe calzaghe beat 9 world champions 8 of them smw
Chris Eubank, was a 2 weight champion and had 24 world tltle fights
Richie Woodhall was a 2 weight champion and had 6 world tltle fights
Roy Jones Jr was a 4 weight champion and had 25 world tltle fights
Charles Brewer had 7 world tltle fights
Bernard Hopkins, the best middleweight of all time he has 25 world tltle fights
Mikkel Kessler, has 11 world tltle fights 3 x world champion SOON TO BE IBF CHAMPION
Robin Reid had 8 world tltle fights
Byron Mitchell had 8 world tltle fights 2 x smw champion
Jeff Lacy had 7 world tltle fights
if you add all these world champions title fight up it adds up to 121 world championship title fights
when has CARL FROCH beat someone with over 20 championship fights?......
calzaghe beat 3 guy with over 24 championship fights
NAME 1 ATG FROCH FOUGHT?........
JOE CALZAGHE IS 1 OUT OF ONLY 3 BOXERS IN HISTORY TO BE UNDISPUTED AND UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION
JOE CALZAGHE IS 1 OUT OF 4 MEN IN HISTORY TO HAVE OVER 20 TITLE DEFENCES
JOE CALZAGHE IS THE SECOND LONGEST-REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION IN HISTORY?.....
WHEN CARL FROCH RESUME MATCH THAT LET ME KNOW
CARL FROCH'S RESUME
CARL FROCH FOUGHT THE BEST BUT HE NEVER BEAT THEM......WARD/KESSLER
carl froch beat 1 SMW CHAMPION and beat 1 former smw champion
carl froch lost to 1 smw champion and lost to 1 former smw champion
froch is 2-2 at the elite level
His best wins are Lucian Bute and Robin Reid that the only guys that achieved something at 168
Jermain Taylor
Jean Pascal
Andre Dirrell
Arthur Abraham
Glen Johnson are all BUM'S contenders at best at 168 they never won a title at SMW so how can they be class as top wins
To the people that hype on about froch fighting away from home
taylor was shot
Arthur abraham was coming off a loss the fight was on neutral ground
johnson was 43 with 14 L L L L L L L L L L L L L L the fight was on neutral ground
KESSLER WAS COMING OFF A LOSS
All froch has done is won joe calzaghe vacant title made two defences loss to mikkel kessler...won kessler's vacant title made 2 defences and loss to andre ward then won a paper title that will soon be mikkel kessler's
WHEN CARL FROCH MAKES HISTORY LET ME KNOW""""
so that what he wrote, what do you think??
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
Sounds like a Froch fan
manos de piedra- Posts : 5274
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
Well this is very interesting. Where is the popcorn?
Seanusarrilius- Moderator
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
Nice and impartial views here. The guy would fit in well over here.
SugarRayRussell (PBK)- Posts : 6716
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
Whoever wrote this...the next round is on me
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
Actually he has a point......erm.....no he doesn't, what a numpty.
BarneyRubble- Posts : 39
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
Well, if you put it like ....
Mind you, if Jermain Taylor was shot, what does that make Roy Jones Jr? And Richie Woodall. Wasn't he a middleweight for the vast majority of his career with no real impact at super middleweight? Nah, I'm just being picky now.
Mind you, if Jermain Taylor was shot, what does that make Roy Jones Jr? And Richie Woodall. Wasn't he a middleweight for the vast majority of his career with no real impact at super middleweight? Nah, I'm just being picky now.
bhb001- Posts : 2675
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
maybe jermainerambo is actually joe calzaghe
eddyfightfan- Posts : 2925
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
some valid points, but clearly biased in your views, as you call some of Froch's wins as "against bums", when JC did not exactly fight people in their prime... and when he did he was at home.
I think Froch would have given JC a tough fight.
I think Froch would have given JC a tough fight.
tunes666- Posts : 1557
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
Jesus this sounds like one of Froch rants about Calzaghe.
Just watched the highlights of the Froch vs Bute fight and was amazed how often Froch slapped with the inside of the glove, especially when he's mocked Calzaghe for doing it.
Just watched the highlights of the Froch vs Bute fight and was amazed how often Froch slapped with the inside of the glove, especially when he's mocked Calzaghe for doing it.
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
No way man, carl didnt take years to do what he did, joe was one step forward six back, stay at home ish and fought a shell of rrj and a past prime eubank. those two in their prime would have been way more than just a record filler.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
tunes666 wrote:some valid points, but clearly biased in your views, as you call some of Froch's wins as "against bums", when JC did not exactly fight people in their prime... and when he did he was at home.
I think Froch would have given JC a tough fight.
Froch would walk through JC's pitter-patter punches and cause him trouble but I think Joe's higher work rate and classier shot-picking would see him through to a UD by 2-3 rounds.
This poster seems a bit of a prat but I'd agree overall that JC's record (and Brit ATG status) is still ahead of Froch's, and will be even if Carl avenges Kessler. Especially as Carl is too old now to rest on his laurels and score 'longevity points' making soft defences for a few years.
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
I'll just make everyone aware, AGAIN, this is not my post!!!!
So dont shoot the messenger!!
So dont shoot the messenger!!
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
Lies, damned lies and statistics!!! never a truer line in history..
Norris has quality galore on his record..........Taylor, Brown, Curry, Leonard even Mugabi was admired!!!
However all were either passed it or out of their comfort zone...
Lacy for me Calzaghe's stand out win and he wasn't a legend...
Not much in it between Calzaghe and froch...However I rate Joe higher for his longevity and the fact he never lost!!!
Norris has quality galore on his record..........Taylor, Brown, Curry, Leonard even Mugabi was admired!!!
However all were either passed it or out of their comfort zone...
Lacy for me Calzaghe's stand out win and he wasn't a legend...
Not much in it between Calzaghe and froch...However I rate Joe higher for his longevity and the fact he never lost!!!
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Re: Calzaghe vs Froch by someone else...
A massive problem for Froch in terms of legacy is the fact he is not the true world champion. Even if he beats Kessler in a rematch he will STILL not be the true champion and not eclipse Joe Calz and history will reflect this. In 50 years time Froch will not be remembered but Calzaghe will, whatever you say about resumes and tough opponents. This is because Froch is still a paper champion.
Put quite simply, Froch MUST beat Ward to be placed on a similar level. Do this and he becomes the real deal. At the moment he's beaten biggish names who've done their best work north or south of super mid. Bute is his best win but is reminicent of Lacy for Calzaghe.
Froch really has to be the real champion before we start any comparisons.
Put quite simply, Froch MUST beat Ward to be placed on a similar level. Do this and he becomes the real deal. At the moment he's beaten biggish names who've done their best work north or south of super mid. Bute is his best win but is reminicent of Lacy for Calzaghe.
Froch really has to be the real champion before we start any comparisons.
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