JWC: Irish and Baby Bok squads announced.

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The Irish and Baby Bok teams have been announced.

Irish team:

15. Peter Nelson (Dungannon/Ulster)
14. Barry Daly (UCD/Leinster)
13. Foster Horan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
12. Chris Farrell (Dungannon/Ulster)
11. Sam Coghlan Murray (UCD/Leinster)
10. JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians/Munster) *
9. Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) *
1. Des Merrey (Clontarf/Leinster)
2. Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) (capt)
3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) *
4. Tadhg Beirne (Lansdowne/Leinster)
5. Iain Henderson (Queen's University/Ulster) *
6. Jordan Coghlan (UCD/Leinster)
7. Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
8. Conor Gilsenan (UCD/Mullingar/Leinster)

Replacements:

16. James Rael (Garryowen/Munster)
17. Peter Reilly (Lansdowne/Leinster)
18. Jake Cawley (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
19. Alan O'Connor (UCD/Leinster)
20. Aaron Conneely (Corinthians/Connacht) *
21. Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster)
22. Jack Carty (Buccaneers/Connacht)
23. Mikey Sherlock (Clontarf/Leinster)

Baby Boks:

15. Dillyn Leyds (DHL Western Province)
14. Paul Jordaan (KZN)
13. Pat Howard (DHL Western Province)
12. Jan Serfontein (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
11. Raymond Rhule (Toyota Free State)
10. Tony Jantjies (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
9. Abrie Griesel (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
8. Fabian Booysen (MTN Golden Lions)
7. Wiaan Liebenberg (Vodacom Blue Bulls, captain)
6. Shaun Adendorff (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
5. Pieter Steph du Toit (KZN)
4. Paul Willemse (MTN Golden Lions)
3. Allan Dell (KZN)
2. Mark Pretorius (MTN Golden Lions)
1. Steven Kitshoff (DHL Western Province)

Reserves:
16. Jason Thomas (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
17. Oliver Kebble (DHL Western Province)
18. Ruan Botha (MTN Golden Lions)
19. Braam Steyn (KZN)
20. Vian van der Watt (MTN Golden Lions)
21. Handrè Pollard (DHL Western Province)
22. Tshotsho Mbovane (DHL Western Province)
23. Maks van Dyk (KZN)



The game is on Monday at 5.45 Irish time, I think its live on TG4 and possibly Sky Sports.

Notch wrote:Luke McGrath is a scrumhalf. And he should be starting!

I think I meant Jack McGrath, the Leinster TH ?

Hanrahan has lightning quick hands doesn't he?

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Why isn't McGrath starting? He is one of the best players in that squad.

Because Ruddock is a bit of an idiot. I think it might have something to do with every player having to start a game and
Marmion being a bigger player making him more suitable for this game.

That was F$%^^ pathetic by jordaan, you don't let a ball bounce 3 times.

That's more like it Ireland, not so bad when they have the ball in hand . Each year the U20s seem to have a team that defends really well but doesn't attack nearly as well.

biltongbek wrote:That was F$%^^ pathetic by jordaan, you don't let a ball bounce 3 times.

A lot better by Ireland on the other hand, great chase by big Iain Henderson.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Hanrahan has lightning quick hands doesn't he?

He's a deceptive player, he's sort of a bit squat for a 10 but I saw him playing against my cousin's team a few years ago and he was a level above everyone on the pitch. And that's a lovely kick.

Well done Hanrahan

valjester wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Hanrahan has lightning quick hands doesn't he?

He's a deceptive player, he's sort of a bit squat for a 10 but I saw him playing against my cousin's team a few years ago and he was a level above everyone on the pitch. And that's a lovely kick.

And a class break there. Seriously, the sooner he is playing for Munster (and 12 for Ireland) the better.

God, that was manky - but heck they all count

geez, did you see the delight on that Irish auntie's face when that kick went over?

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

valjester wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Hanrahan has lightning quick hands doesn't he?

He's a deceptive player, he's sort of a bit squat for a 10 but I saw him playing against my cousin's team a few years ago and he was a level above everyone on the pitch. And that's a lovely kick.

And a class break there. Seriously, the sooner he is playing for Munster (and 12 for Ireland) the better.

That's the big question is he going to be a 10 or 12.

Nice play by the Irish - good passing interplay between forwards and backs.

And that has to be the droopiest kick in rugby but it's over.

Ireland 6-3 SA

He's a great creative 12 really, but he's also got the attributes to play at 10. Be interesting to see which position he favours more as he develops.

Oof! That was an ugly strike. Went over though

Impressive so far from Ireland, can't believe we're leading (for now)

I told you we are shyte

They need to replace this Griesel, he is kak.

I think he will play at 10 for Munster, but play 12 for Ireland. No reason he couldn't do that.

biltongbek wrote:I told you we are shyte

With the players you have, you shouldn;t be this bad.

TRY!!!!!!

COUGHLAN! TRY!

Ye Gods ...

Well, when you play this poorly you don't deserve to win. Simples. The Irish are showing intensity and pride. The Baby Boks look kak.

Lovely opportunism by Ireland. And a great taken try under the sticks.

Hanrahan converts. 13-3 to Ireland. Wait for the onslaught.

Hendy is just so strong.

Are you lot watching on TG4? I'm on Sky with SA commmentators - quite amusing really

this is pathetic, we look like we are trying to trudge through mud, if you see the irsih forwards putting you under this kind of pressure get the F@#$% ball out.

Farrell is playing at 13 yeah? The team listed on the IRFU website was a bit muddled up it seems.

KiaRose wrote:Are you lot watching on TG4? I'm on Sky with SA commmentators - quite amusing really

Why, they are fair?

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Hendy is just so strong.

He is an absolute beast of player. I actually think the future of Irish rugby is very bright,
there are a load of good prospects around at the minute.

Ireland look pretty relaxed and look as if they aren't playing to the best of their ability yet. I hope they can go on and win this. Sorry Bil .

valjester wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Hendy is just so strong.

He is an absolute beast of player. I actually think the future of Irish rugby is very bright,
there are a load of good prospects around at the minute.

Yeah I went to the same school, and played rugby with him. I know first hand.

How many knocks have we had now?

Flip me, replace these guys with the irish 15!

Ireland is playing with confidence here.

The only time I've seen JJ @ flyhalf I believe, but in my opinion he looks a level above the overated Paddy Jackson in that position.

We are missing goosen here badly.

Ahhh, that crosskick was the wrong option. Still, we've settled into this game nicely! South Africa putting themselves under pressure in a lot of situations.

biltongbek wrote:

KiaRose wrote:Are you lot watching on TG4? I'm on Sky with SA commmentators - quite amusing really

Why, they are fair?

Sorry Biltong, realised when I wrote it that it might imply that they weren't being fair, they are being scrupulousy fair, but there is a definite hint of surprise about them, s in they weren't expecting it to be like this. (Mind you none of us were either, were we ..

What's up with the SA scrum? We seem to be matching it and even bettering it on occasions.

Notch wrote:Ahhh, that crosskick was the wrong option. Still, we've settled into this game nicely! South Africa putting themselves under pressure in a lot of situations.

It was a good decision just poor execution.

Furlong is taking Steven Kitshoff apart and hes being starting for the Stromers all season.

Couldnt have asked for a better first half from the boys

KiaRose wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

KiaRose wrote:Are you lot watching on TG4? I'm on Sky with SA commmentators - quite amusing really

Why, they are fair?

Sorry Biltong, realised when I wrote it that it might imply that they weren't being fair, they are being scrupulousy fair, but there is a definite hint of surprise about them, s in they weren't expecting it to be like this. (Mind you none of us were either, were we ..

No worries mate, I think I was the only one that expected this

We need to get Our half back and ten off as soon as possible they are shyte.

biltongbek wrote:

KiaRose wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

KiaRose wrote:Are you lot watching on TG4? I'm on Sky with SA commmentators - quite amusing really

Why, they are fair?

Sorry Biltong, realised when I wrote it that it might imply that they weren't being fair, they are being scrupulousy fair, but there is a definite hint of surprise about them, s in they weren't expecting it to be like this. (Mind you none of us were either, were we ..

No worries mate, I think I was the only one that expected this

Still 40 minutes to go.

biltongbek wrote:We need to get Our half back and ten off as soon as possible they are shyte.

Goosen is a big miss but we are missing our first choice 10 as well.

It's a question of whether we can maintain our intensity to the very last minute. You see that quite often at this age group, we fall away in the last quarter- this being our first game we should be pretty fresh.

Pretty much the best we could have asked for! South Africa will no doubt change their 9 and play better, should be a close one.

valjester wrote:

biltongbek wrote:We need to get Our half back and ten off as soon as possible they are shyte.

Goosen is a big miss but we are missing our first choice 10 as well.

Mate your first choice 10 here is so far the man of the match. Our 10 is simply very f#$%% poor.

biltongbek wrote:

valjester wrote:

biltongbek wrote:We need to get Our half back and ten off as soon as possible they are shyte.

Goosen is a big miss but we are missing our first choice 10 as well.

Mate your first choice 10 here is so far the man of the match. Our 10 is simply very f#$%% poor.

Yeah we're very lucky to have two very good 10s at this level and there is a third one who played in the 6Nations who is very good as well, not sure if he is in the squad though. As bad as your 9 has been if he was Irish he would be in our senior squad.

Our problem is our second best is on the bench, but this is our history of selection