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Post by alive555 Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:30 pm

can someone tell us what we need to do to get seeded at next world cup or have we already blown it ?

we were ranked 12th i thimk we need to be top 8 ?

somebody elaborate ..

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Post by whocares Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:37 pm

I think you will be ranked 10th with this win (75.86 points), still 4 points clear from the current number 8th (Ireland) which seems a lot.

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Post by Scot Abroad Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:39 pm

We are already guaranteed to be in the third pot for the next draw after finishing 3rd in the group last time out. We need to be in the top 8 if we want to make the second pot. Best chance of that is Argentina dropping out. I can't see Ireland slipping that far down, regardless of their series results.

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Post by whocares Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:01 pm

true, Ireland will probably not lose any points as the gap between them and NZ is too high. Argentina has 2 games at home against france but being ranked pretty close it shouldnt lead to a big swing. then there is the championship of course.
when are the rankings frozen for RWC draw purposes by the way?

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Post by bsando Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:16 pm

Anotherworldofpain did a post on rankings and wrote this...

"So Scotland super win over Australia in the arctic is mean Scotland leap up the ladder to 76.88 point to 9th point from 12th point, just behind Ireland and just ahead Tonga."

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Post by Scot Abroad Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:51 pm

Rankings freeze after the autumn internationals. Our only hope of top 8 is Argentina getting manshamed by France, then the 4N and again in Autumn. If we can squeeze 4 wins our of the next 5 games we should just about make it. I'm not holding my breath though.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm

Scot Abroad wrote:Rankings freeze after the autumn internationals. Our only hope of top 8 is Argentina getting manshamed by France, then the 4N and again in Autumn. If we can squeeze 4 wins our of the next 5 games we should just about make it. I'm not holding my breath though.

I think big wins over samoa and fiji combined with Oireland taking the expected bummings at the hands of the ABs could push Scotland to 8th, and Argentina arent that far ahead then. The implications of the the AIs just make my brain melt. But its not impossible that Scotland will be a pot 2 team and then pull New Zealand, Ireland and Fiji in their group crashing out in humiliation.

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Post by Scot Abroad Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:03 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Scot Abroad wrote:Rankings freeze after the autumn internationals. Our only hope of top 8 is Argentina getting manshamed by France, then the 4N and again in Autumn. If we can squeeze 4 wins our of the next 5 games we should just about make it. I'm not holding my breath though.

I think big wins over samoa and fiji combined with Oireland taking the expected bummings at the hands of the ABs could push Scotland to 8th, and Argentina arent that far ahead then. The implications of the the AIs just make my brain melt. But its not impossible that Scotland will be a pot 2 team and then pull New Zealand, Ireland and Fiji in their group crashing out in humiliation.

Just our luck Doh

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Post by 123456789 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:51 pm

Scot Abroad wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Scot Abroad wrote:Rankings freeze after the autumn internationals. Our only hope of top 8 is Argentina getting manshamed by France, then the 4N and again in Autumn. If we can squeeze 4 wins our of the next 5 games we should just about make it. I'm not holding my breath though.

I think big wins over samoa and fiji combined with Oireland taking the expected bummings at the hands of the ABs could push Scotland to 8th, and Argentina arent that far ahead then. The implications of the the AIs just make my brain melt. But its not impossible that Scotland will be a pot 2 team and then pull New Zealand, Ireland and Fiji in their group crashing out in humiliation.

Just our luck Doh
I think that somehow we'd managed to draw the cook Islands, Singapore, Portugal and Spain and go out in humiliation.

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Post by wales606 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:55 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Scot Abroad wrote:Rankings freeze after the autumn internationals. Our only hope of top 8 is Argentina getting manshamed by France, then the 4N and again in Autumn. If we can squeeze 4 wins our of the next 5 games we should just about make it. I'm not holding my breath though.

I think big wins over samoa and fiji combined with Oireland taking the expected bummings at the hands of the ABs could push Scotland to 8th, and Argentina arent that far ahead then. The implications of the the AIs just make my brain melt. But its not impossible that Scotland will be a pot 2 team and then pull New Zealand, Ireland and Fiji in their group crashing out in humiliation.

Samoa rather than Fiji - Samoa are much more dangerous.

Scotland vs Samoa should be an interesting game on the 23rd.
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Post by George Carlin Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:07 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Scot Abroad wrote:Rankings freeze after the autumn internationals. Our only hope of top 8 is Argentina getting manshamed by France, then the 4N and again in Autumn. If we can squeeze 4 wins our of the next 5 games we should just about make it. I'm not holding my breath though.

I think big wins over samoa and fiji combined with Oireland taking the expected bummings at the hands of the ABs could push Scotland to 8th, and Argentina arent that far ahead then. The implications of the the AIs just make my brain melt. But its not impossible that Scotland will be a pot 2 team and then pull New Zealand, Ireland and Fiji in their group crashing out in humiliation.
So CLOSE to that glass being half-full for once Peter.

But you pulled it out of the fire with that last sentence. Or, rather, pushed it back in. OK
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Post by geoff998rugby Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:31 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Scot Abroad wrote:Rankings freeze after the autumn internationals. Our only hope of top 8 is Argentina getting manshamed by France, then the 4N and again in Autumn. If we can squeeze 4 wins our of the next 5 games we should just about make it. I'm not holding my breath though.

I think big wins over samoa and fiji combined with Oireland taking the expected bummings at the hands of the ABs could push Scotland to 8th,.

It is imposible for Scotland to go above Ireland this summer.

Ireland could be hammered in all 3 tests and they will not lose a single point - they are too far behind NZ.
Even if Scotland win both matches they cannot make up the still significant difference.

As other have said an Argentinian melt down is their best hope

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:57 pm

Sorry yes you are correct, id taken a wrong rating for scotland from elsewhere on here. They are still in 10th on 75.86 right now
Hammering Samoa and Fiji will leave then about half a point behind Ireland.

They are pretty much safe from pot 4 though, thats the main thing.

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Post by Mcgavin Sean Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:10 pm

Congratulations to Scotland yesterday on a fine performance underpinned by sheer guts and determination.
I would not feel too hard done by were you to overtake us in the seedings,if it is at all possible for you to do so.
It would surely push Kidney through the trap door and would rid us of this fool for once and for all.

Well done...good luck versus Samoa and Fiji
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