New Coach. Old Springbok.

So under Meyer the Springbok will now slowing down the game, make a ruck, use the new variety to the game: the box kick, the up and under, the chip kick, the long punt, the garryowen, the spiral punt, the long range kick, and put the boot to the ball.

Yes, it looks like this team could have select wingers who have to stay in the wheel chair and not making a difference.

Bryan Habana went off injury after 20 minutes but nobody notice until half time.

What are you talking about? Habana was excellent, and Kirtshner very strong. The kicking game is based around the back 3!!

Do you know anything about the game?!

What game? ping pong?

In other news, my grass grow a few millimeter and some paint to my wall dry a bit in first 40 minute.

Awop i am enjoying this game, who do you actually support?
i am a welsh fan and while it isint try fest it is a good brusiing encounter and both teams are threatening.

AWOP, so you missed the times we ran with the ball?

We may be not gelling as a fluid team yet, but to say we only try to kick, you must be watching something else.

Or are you just reciting old clches?

welshy +1

biltongbek wrote:AWOP, so you missed the times we ran with the ball?

We may be not gelling as a fluid team yet, but to say we only try to kick, you must be watching something else.

Or are you just reciting old clches?

You must admitting Biltonguebek that SA are use a lot of the kick and also make a lot of stationary ruck and is some contrast to the multiple phase of Wales and Australia.

Just my comment is that style is very similar and no change for the Boks tactic.

Not sure why everyone get so upset! much be touch a nerve or something!

well awop stick to what they do best, they have some quality kickers in the two steyn's
its like aus benefit from running it with beale, cooper etc.
each to their own. and why change what works?

Same old SA, eh?

Just observation Welshy!

biltongbek wrote:Same old SA, eh?

That was brutal try of straight and direct! yes very much what I view to be SA rugby values. But also shows that keep the ball to hand is more productive! Why they wait an hour to try?

What's wrong with playign like that though? You get the win, that's all that matters? England are hardly exhilarating, neither are Wales or Ireland.

England are getting a bit unlucky here, a few late hits/cheap shots, and SA are getting Walsh's favour at the breakdown. 2 SA players could've been called for holding on before Walsh gave SA a penalty!

Bluesman are you complain about the referee again? It's twice today...

Not as boring as England though!

2 tries to 0.

welshy6 wrote:Awop i am enjoying this game, who do you actually support?
i am a welsh fan and while it isint try fest it is a good brusiing encounter and both teams are threatening.

He supports England, Romania, Kenya, Spain, Japan. Why would anyone support all of those?

welliamwibb wrote:Not as boring as England though!

2 tries to 0.

Almost right.

I'm with pain on this one. And it makes me feel dirty.

We struggled to gell in the first half, second half we won quicker ruck ball, got the ball at pace and made ground, two well constructed tries and overall posistive for a team who only had 5 days to prepare, well done Heyneke.

While i didnt like the first half the second half was very interesting. I'm starting to see Meyers plan, kick - get the ball back, then send in the heavy armour (willem Alberts was just devasating)recycle, big loosie recycle then send it out wide. Very predictable, but very effective

Bullsbok, our backline ran the ball 51 times collectively, when was the last time we saw that?

AWOP how long are you going to keep up this lie?

biltongbek wrote:We struggled to gell in the first half, second half we won quicker ruck ball, got the ball at pace and made ground, two well constructed tries and overall posistive for a team who only had 5 days to prepare, well done Heyneke.

I think that's bang on the money. Biltong i know you were a little worried Meyer would bring a lack of variety and focus on execution over invention, but for this game given the limited prep that seemed sensible. Due you think we'll see a more varied game develop in time?

That's not a veiled criticism by the way, i thought you guys were pretty expansive at times. Albeit more direct than elusive.

Hood, yes I was concerned Meyer wants to play kick and chase, but I was surprised with the way we attacked in the second half, I agree it is direct, and to be honest that won't change much, however Having frans at 12 and JdV at 13 proved to be the right way to go, It gave us balls to the wings, which usually doesn't happen.

In the past we weren't able or willing to go wide, now at least we went direct into traffic then wide, then into traffic then wide. On that basis you can create gaps, not with this slow ruck ball picking and driving all the time.

We had 11 clean breaks and defenders beaten and 11 offloads in the match, Habana looked confident and beat 4 defenders, Frans Steyn mad 3 offloads, something JdV rarely does.

So yes I am pleased with what I saw, I didn't expect us to be this expansive in the first test with so little preparation time.

It gives me some confidence.

I was relief to see the barrage about kicking give way for 20 minutes in the second half.

There was also coincidental the time when SA score all the points!

There is talent to play the joined up game, barrel to the middle and make the platform and then attacking wide and not just rely on the kick.

My mind is SA need new 9/10/12 or reprogramme the same one.

Lambie made a big difference so might be the future.

biltongbek wrote:Hood, yes I was concerned Meyer wants to play kick and chase, but I was surprised with the way we attacked in the second half, I agree it is direct, and to be honest that won't change much, however Having frans at 12 and JdV at 13 proved to be the right way to go, It gave us balls to the wings, which usually doesn't happen.

In the past we weren't able or willing to go wide, now at least we went direct into traffic then wide, then into traffic then wide. On that basis you can create gaps, not with this slow ruck ball picking and driving all the time.

We had 11 clean breaks and defenders beaten and 11 offloads in the match, Habana looked confident and beat 4 defenders, Frans Steyn mad 3 offloads, something JdV rarely does.

So yes I am pleased with what I saw, I didn't expect us to be this expansive in the first test with so little preparation time.

It gives me some confidence.

I have to say i thought the same. It was pretty bosh heavy but not straight up the middle, around the fringes in forward pods. There seemed to be a decent understanding as to when to go wide once defenders had been sucked in. I thought forwards were brought onto the ball at pace well, something England have never grasped sadly.

I think we're in trouble at altitude.

anotherworldofpain wrote:I was relief to see the barrage about kicking give way for 20 minutes in the second half.

There was also coincidental the time when SA score all the points!

There is talent to play the joined up game, barrel to the middle and make the platform and then attacking wide and not just rely on the kick.

My mind is SA need new 9/10/12 or reprogramme the same one.

Lambie made a big difference so might be the future.

AWOP, you beginning to sound like a broken record mate, your controversial comments ain't gonna rile me up.

Our 9 is new and will learn, he is very dangerous around the ruck but needs to get the ball out quicker, Steyn had a surprisingly good game, and Frans Steyn is right where he needs to be, Lambie will get his chance, but I fear once Meyer brings Johan Goosen into the squad, Lambie will be nothing more than a back up 10.

Is not controversy Biltong! Is just discuss.

Watch the game by replay. A lot of times you could throw over a bedsheet and cover both teams. There was so much wide space not used game could be played on half the pitch!

Then just when the ball go to the backs, a lot of times the SA centers cut back into the break down arena and Habana spend most of the game throw his arms up and shout for the ball. He is some talent and really used more like a golden retriever to run and fetch after the kick ball. Is a pity in my mind.

AWOP, explain to me then how did we score both our tries in the corners?

biltongbek wrote:AWOP, explain to me then how did we score both our tries in the corners?

Exactly my point Biltonguebek! SA have the talent players to execute the go wide attack. So why was so many times turn into the center and conceding the turn over? Or kick the ball away to England? Congratualtion for the win, but SA could win better if they play with the ball instead!

Awop lets take the two competitive tests played today.

Answer me this, which team apart of course of the blowout in auckland impressed you today?

Why apart from the impressive team display?

There is much to say BB.

SA impress me with their venomous aggression play.
OZ impress me to play so creative and make a unexpected win and Genia was just astonish me.

WAL and ENG impress by grinding spirit and make a come back and not fall over and get badly beating but really disappoint that they expect so much and don't deliver.

Not sure why you try to limit me and not talk about the very impressive game of all blacks because they make a lot of points.

Oh for goodness sake, AWOP, I am not limiting you, but NZ dominated Ireland today and were never under pressure whereas the other two matches were closely fought vontests.

And so why does it mean I cant be impressed about new zealand?

was it too easy? or they make it look too easy?

I give up

Sorry I make you exhausted. i dont understand why I made you angry to talk about it. I think I misunderstand this one "apart of course of the blowout" and have some mean about it that I thought was some other mean.