Official Pac v Bradley Card Discussion Thread.

[Seanusarrilius]

First topic message reminder :

Ok, it's almost here and low and behold I am hyped up as usual.

Looking forward to the card

My predicitons

Arce KO
Rigondeaux KO
Bailey shock KO win
Pac via late KO or a draw...ok Pac by late KO

[compelling and rich]

ok just watched the full fight without knowing the result. not had time to read through the 9 pages of discussion so sorry if i go over old ground but heres how i saw it.

manny won and fairly easy, i gave bradley 1st 2nd 10th 11th and 12th and the first two not much happened so could have gone either way. after the second manny took control and bossed all the middle rounds. everything bradley threw landed on mannys gloves where as manny landed cleanly all night. thought the rounds were often one sided and very easy to score wasnt many tight ones other than the ones i mentioned so dont know how there was such a swing in judges score cards.

think alot of people have turned off manny because his linked with arum/lack of mayweather fight/ and his robbery of jmm 3. but two wrongs dont make a right and manny won this fight no doubt in my mind. yet another poor night for the fans of boxing

[Guest]

Exactly C&R, two wrongs don't make a right.

I was worried this would have happened if there'd been a 4th fight with JMM.

This was a terrible affair for boxing.

Having said that, Pac Man did seem to lose some snap, Bradley was a beaten man after 6 and should have been sent packing.

[tunes666]

Another Robbery, and more blatant than the Marquez fight which was much closer.. Look on the bright side though, Manny is now clearly a fighter on a slide, so the Floyd fight will no doubt happen now.

Im starting to get a little fed up with this stuff...

[KingMonkey]

Haven't seen the fight at all but my immediate reaction is that you reap what you sow.

Manny has stuck with Arum for far too long and finally been stabbed in the back. JMM must be laughing his head off.

[compelling and rich]

would also like to say that i watched it with spanish commentary so didnt have a clue what they were on about, so didnt really have the biased commentary others complained about. realy dont see how you can give bradley anything other than the rounds i did. not the widest of margins to have it by two rounds but as clear cut a two round victory you will see, and thats with me being generous to bradley and giving him the first two

[Sugar Floyd Louis]

tunes... I honestly gave up after May 5th, I'm not into the whole blaming culture, both are responsible (along with that crook Arum) for the fight not happening.

But if Pacquiao doesn't leave Arum now he would be a fool, even his most ardent fan must know by now Bob Arum is a nasty man. Manny is too big a star and doesn't need him at all.

[Imperial Ghosty]

I will say this decision is no means as bad as the shafting Marquez received when he virtually shut Pacquiao out, you reap what you sow and as such he'll get zero sympathy from me, the first time a bad decision has made me smile.

[Sugar Floyd Louis]

I will say this decision is no means as bad as the shafting Marquez received when he virtually shut Pacquiao out, you reap what you sow and as such he'll get zero sympathy from me, the first time a bad decision has made me smile.

Weren't Pacquiao's fault though, he didn't judge the fight, we all know it's politics.

He deserved to win yesterday by a clear margin and was robbed, I feel for him, all that hard work down the drain.

[milkyboy]

you're a hard man ghosty

[Imperial Ghosty]

I will say this decision is no means as bad as the shafting Marquez received when he virtually shut Pacquiao out, you reap what you sow and as such he'll get zero sympathy from me, the first time a bad decision has made me smile.

Weren't Pacquiao's fault though, he didn't judge the fight, we all know it's politics.

He deserved to win yesterday by a clear margin and was robbed, I feel for him, all that hard work down the drain.

Can't say I care if it's Pacquiaos fault or not, he got exactly what he deserved, he is where he is because of the verdicts he's received over Marquez, he should in my opinion be 3-0 down in the series but absurdly is 2-0-1 up.

I felt for Lara against Williams
I felt for Abril against Rios
I felt for Marquez against Pacquiao
I laughed at Pacquiao and Arum last night

[compelling and rich]

I will say this decision is no means as bad as the shafting Marquez received when he virtually shut Pacquiao out, you reap what you sow and as such he'll get zero sympathy from me, the first time a bad decision has made me smile.

as i boxing fan i dont see how fighters getting screwed over all the time is a good thing whether or not you like the guy. i just want to watch good boxing fights without it getting spoilt by judges. it was a good fight last night and really enjoyed it until the result which just left yet again another bad taste in my mouth

[Melkor]

... well he'd have been one of the first fighters in history to say right after the fight that he was given a gift, melkor. I'm no pactard, but i don't see him as the villain of the piece, he doesn't score the fights.

Wasn't justifying what happened, just saying as others have; you reap what you sow.

As it happens, Arum's laughing all the way to the bank. Pacquiao comes out of this with a little egg on his face, a 'L' on his record that needs an asterisk, Bradley comes out of the fight with a 'W' against a massive name (officially, at least), and all three guys can make some decent $$$ from the rematch. I've read a couple places this exact scenario being predicted, because Arum wants to bank as much from Pac as possible before cashing him out.

[milkyboy]

no doubt it makes a rematch more sellable, and arum's post fight behaviour adds credence to the theory.... its arum doing the reaping and sowing though not pacman, even if he did benefit from it in the past

[KO-KING]

Robbery equal to the JMM 3 fight - sort it out boxing, its a joke

This was far worse - other had lot of rounds where neither man did alot, JMM won his rounds big, Pac scraped his rounds. atleast 7/8 of those rounds were close, Agree 116-112, 115-113 was BS, but a Draw was possible due to close rounds and scraped rounds

This fight only 3/4 rounds were close, at BEST you can have it for bradley is 116-112 Pacquiao. Other in my opinion -at BEST for pacquiao 114-114 for a draw

This is as bad as Abril vs Rios, worse than Lara vs Williams

[Imperial Ghosty]

A draw was simply not possible in the Marquez fight, I had it 117-111 and that was being quite generous to Pacquiao, he was dominated from start til finish.

[Seanusarrilius]

Ihave no issue with the scoring of this fight. Put me and Chris in the same bin. 1st half fight Pac built up a lead. 2nd half he lost it, IMO. All this "it was a shut out" talk baffles me

[AlexHuckerby]

Same boat as you Sean! Manny threw it away!!!

[Seanusarrilius]

Same boat as you Sean! Manny threw it away!!!

Ran out of steam didnt he.Had Bradley in real trouble early, and even hurt a bit, but after 6 it was different. Manny is done at highest level. Doen and done. HBO were awful last night, truly awful in their ability to ignore allof Bradleys successes. They actually hurt the sport with commentating like that

[AlexHuckerby]

Exactly what I said Sean!! He looked dead halfway through and gave the fight away, for me he only needed one round at the end and just kept waddling forward doing very little.

[compelling and rich]

think its harsh to say he threw it away, seeing as most people had him at least 6-7 rounds in front before round 10 like i did. staying out of trouble as he was rightly in front. there was no way bradley was within 3 going into the 10th. i agree with the fight not being a shut out but cant agree with anyone who had bradley winning

[azania]

Bad decision?

You have to be kidding me if we're meant to care after the disgraceful shafting Marquez got, Pacquiao got all he deserved and in a twisted way i'm glad he lost a fight he should have won.

That doesn't make sense at all. Why should Tim benefit from JMM being hard done by?

[azania]

I will say this decision is no means as bad as the shafting Marquez received when he virtually shut Pacquiao out, you reap what you sow and as such he'll get zero sympathy from me, the first time a bad decision has made me smile.

JMM should get the benefit and not Tim. You want Manny punished for the actions of others and the person who got robbed gets nothing. Personally I don't see any satisfaction is a robbery. Its bad for boxing. If I want to see robberies I'll tune in to PM question time at 12.30 on wednesdays.

[Melkor]

Bad decision?

You have to be kidding me if we're meant to care after the disgraceful shafting Marquez got, Pacquiao got all he deserved and in a twisted way i'm glad he lost a fight he should have won.

That doesn't make sense at all. Why should Tim benefit from JMM being hard done by?

Pay it forward.

[azania]

Bad decision?

You have to be kidding me if we're meant to care after the disgraceful shafting Marquez got, Pacquiao got all he deserved and in a twisted way i'm glad he lost a fight he should have won.

That doesn't make sense at all. Why should Tim benefit from JMM being hard done by?

Pay it forward.

Huh?

[manos de piedra]

If Bradley beat Pacquaio then Cotto beat Mayweather! The commentary was equally bad in both but I honestly ended up with the same 116-112 card in both fights.

[Melkor]

Bad decision?

You have to be kidding me if we're meant to care after the disgraceful shafting Marquez got, Pacquiao got all he deserved and in a twisted way i'm glad he lost a fight he should have won.

That doesn't make sense at all. Why should Tim benefit from JMM being hard done by?

Pay it forward.

Huh?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_forward

[azania]

Bad decision?

You have to be kidding me if we're meant to care after the disgraceful shafting Marquez got, Pacquiao got all he deserved and in a twisted way i'm glad he lost a fight he should have won.

That doesn't make sense at all. Why should Tim benefit from JMM being hard done by?

Pay it forward.

Huh?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_forward

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