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azania wrote:

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Frank Maloney is chasing Hatton trying to get Brian Rose a shot at Rabchenko. A decent jab with a bit of snap and good movement will beat Rachenk and Rose has that.

He has the equaliser. Rose has poor movement. His movement is running after throwing a jab.

Rose has very good foot movement and won't get drawn into a gun fight. Rabchenko isn't that big a hitter.

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:

azania wrote:

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Frank Maloney is chasing Hatton trying to get Brian Rose a shot at Rabchenko. A decent jab with a bit of snap and good movement will beat Rachenk and Rose has that.

He has the equaliser. Rose has poor movement. His movement is running after throwing a jab.

Rose has very good foot movement and won't get drawn into a gun fight. Rabchenko isn't that big a hitter.

I have to disagree. Not impressed one iota with Rose. Rabby has very good ring intelligence. I suspect he can be outboxed, but Rose isn't the one to do it.

Who was the credible opponents Cotto fought in the LMW division Az?? You seemed to hold him as a credible champ.

Take a minute to think about it

If you over evaluate the division as a whole the only credible win left would be Mayweathers over Cotto which isn't really the case. Some rave about Rabchenko having beaten Rhodes then dismiss Alvarez for beating him already, makes very little sense to me.

Ghosty, you know when it comes to Alvarez its Az's "look at me" moment.

Bit like D4 was with Mayweather

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Who was the credible opponents Cotto fought in the LMW division Az?? You seemed to hold him as a credible champ.

Take a minute to think about it

How can you even compare the two? Cotto was a legit champion at 2 weights and beat the defending champion at LMW. What did Saul do to earn a shot? Better still what did Hatton do that qualifies him for a shot at the vacant title at a weight he had never competed at?

The WBC belt was gift wrapped for Saul. Simply comparing the two is laughable at best. But then again you were the one criticising Khan for not giving McCkloskey a rematch.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:If you over evaluate the division as a whole the only credible win left would be Mayweathers over Cotto which isn't really the case. Some rave about Rabchenko having beaten Rhodes then dismiss Alvarez for beating him already, makes very little sense to me.

Rab was not fighting Rhodes for a world belt. This was the vacant euro belt and is where Rhodes belongs. Plus Rab did a better job on Rhodes than Saul did.

Don't think so...

I had the fight relatively even and then a good body shot went in.

Alvarez dominated and then took out Rhodes, I don't think Ryan won a round against Alvarez.

He might have taken him out earlier but didn't dominate him the way Alvarez did, you say that Rhodes didn't belong at world level but he had earned his shot by climbing up the rankings, he was the number one contender and ranked at 6 by the ring magazine.

He did a better job. Plus he did it in Rhodes country. Rhodes had to go to Mexico and thus had zero advantages.

He may have been the #1 contender but he is still Ryan Rhodes, the one who gott sparked by some welshman in 2 rounds.

He did such a good job he was well behind on the cards, figure out that logic if you will.

What do judges know. I had Rab 4-2 up. I suppose you had Bradley the winner and Pac tghe winner against JMM.

This was looking to be a hometown decision until Rab closed the show. He seems the type who needs warming up before he gets going. Impressed the way he manouvered Rhodes where he wanted him.

So, he's impressed with Rab beating Rhodes less convincingly but the Alvarez win over him when he was arguably fresher is a joke and it's "just Ryan Rhodes" Az, you're such a WUM.

What makes you think he was fresher? You're assuming that. Rhodes fought in Mexico against Saul. He fought in Manchester against Rab. Do you think Rhodes had any advantages fighting in Mexico? Get real Alex.

But Williams getting a gift against Lara meant he was washed up, have some consistency.

azania wrote:What makes you think he was fresher? You're assuming that. Rhodes fought in Mexico against Saul. He fought in Manchester against Rab. Do you think Rhodes had any advantages fighting in Mexico? Get real Alex.

No because he was older in Manchester than he was in Mexico. Thats why is said he was "Arguably" fresher rather before taking a 12 round beatign off a hard hitting Mexican...

Imperial Ghosty wrote:But Williams getting a gift against Lara meant he was washed up, have some consistency.

Its the manner of the loss and the way he fought.

AlexHuckerby wrote:

azania wrote:What makes you think he was fresher? You're assuming that. Rhodes fought in Mexico against Saul. He fought in Manchester against Rab. Do you think Rhodes had any advantages fighting in Mexico? Get real Alex.

No because he was older in Manchester than he was in Mexico. Thats why is said he was "Arguably" fresher rather before taking a 12 round beatign off a hard hitting Mexican...

Errr, ok Alex. Even I wouldn't use that excuse

What, because he's OLDER?! And because in his last fight he took a 12 round pasting?! Awful excuse as to why he wasn't as good as he was when he fought Alvaraz, read what you're writing Az.

Seems like a fairly sound argument to suggest that Rhodes was fresher before the Alvarez fight than he was before the Rabchenko fight.

Yet, Williams is finished because he took a beating off Lara, yet Rhodes isn't.

AlexHuckerby wrote:What, because he's OLDER?! And because in his last fight he took a 12 round pasting?! Awful excuse as to why he wasn't as good as he was when he fought Alvaraz, read what you're writing Az.

6 months older? He was fighting at home. He had all advantages known to man. But he got his a$$ kicked. I reckon in 2 fights Rab will KO Saul providing Saul is still champ. Saul has talent, but for me he's more hype than substance.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Yet, Williams is finished because he took a beating off Lara, yet Rhodes isn't.

So was Rhodes finished?

You seem to be the only person who acting as if Rhodes got dominated last because shock horror he did not, he got badly winded by a very good body shot before which Rabchenko appeared to have fairly average power.

No, you said Williams was finished after he took a bit of a pasting from Lara, Rhodes takes a much worse one at a later stage in his career yet that means nothing? You're making NO sense.

Rhodes took a bit of a pasting vs Canelo, after 6 rounds you could see that Alvarez was trying new things out as he was toying with Rhodes and was going through the gears.

Compubox numbers had Saul landing 200 power shots on Rhodes, rhodes didnt even land 100 punches throughout the fight. A beating like that on a 34 year old takes more out of them than it would do a 28 year old. That was exactly 12 months ago, Rhodes is not fresher after 12 months and only one fight inbetween, don't be foolish

Rabchenko wasn't bossing it, you yourself (and only you it seems) had it 4-2, that's one more round to Rhodes than Rhodes got over 12 rounds with Alvarez

Rabchenko was also hurt by Rhodes, Canelo wasn't and we all know that you think Canelo is chinny, does that mean Rabchenko is chinny?

I must say chaps, i'm one of the few who actually think Canelo would wipe the floor with Rabchenko. Yes Canelo has thought some bums but i'm not one to jump on the bandwagon like some on here. Canelo is 21 years old and although he has had a ridiculous amount of fights, i think people on here are against him because the American/Mexicans are drawn into him and so what? If you ain't good enough you will be found wanting, but i don't think it'll be anytime soon for Canelo.

Rabchenko looked like a stereotypical, robotic eastern european fighter with great workrate, great technique but that lack of spark. You either have it or you don't. And, Canelo's win over Rhodes was far more impressive, he totally dominated Rhodes and Az i have no idea why you continue to argue a point thats invalid.

Rhodes was fresher against Canelo and Rhodes took a beating.
Rabchenko Vs Rhodes was fairly close up until the stoppage, but it takes more to wear someone down then just wait for 'that' knockout.

I must say chaps, i'm one of the few who actually think Canelo would wipe the floor with Rabchenko. Yes Canelo has thought some bums but i'm not one to jump on the bandwagon like some on here. Canelo is 21 years old and although he has had a ridiculous amount of fights, i think people on here are against him because the American/Mexicans are drawn into him and so what? If you ain't good enough you will be found wanting, but i don't think it'll be anytime soon for Canelo.

Rabchenko looked like a stereotypical, robotic eastern european fighter with great workrate, great technique but that lack of spark. You either have it or you don't. And, Canelo's win over Rhodes was far more impressive, he totally dominated Rhodes and Az i have no idea why you continue to argue a point thats invalid.

Rhodes was fresher against Canelo and Rhodes took a beating.
Rabchenko Vs Rhodes was fairly close up until the stoppage, but it takes more to wear someone down then just wait for 'that' knockout.

ShockmasterV2 wrote:I must say chaps, i'm one of the few who actually think Canelo would wipe the floor with Rabchenko. Yes Canelo has thought some bums but i'm not one to jump on the bandwagon like some on here. Canelo is 21 years old and although he has had a ridiculous amount of fights, i think people on here are against him because the American/Mexicans are drawn into him and so what? If you ain't good enough you will be found wanting, but i don't think it'll be anytime soon for Canelo.

Rabchenko looked like a stereotypical, robotic eastern european fighter with great workrate, great technique but that lack of spark. You either have it or you don't. And, Canelo's win over Rhodes was far more impressive, he totally dominated Rhodes and Az i have no idea why you continue to argue a point thats invalid.

Rhodes was fresher against Canelo and Rhodes took a beating.
Rabchenko Vs Rhodes was fairly close up until the stoppage, but it takes more to wear someone down then just wait for 'that' knockout.

Theres not a few who think Canelo wins. I'm pretty sure only Az thinks that Canelo gets stopped

He is better than Rabchenko in every department and although Rabchenko has power I would say he's on par with Alvarez

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

ShockmasterV2 wrote:I must say chaps, i'm one of the few who actually think Canelo would wipe the floor with Rabchenko. Yes Canelo has thought some bums but i'm not one to jump on the bandwagon like some on here. Canelo is 21 years old and although he has had a ridiculous amount of fights, i think people on here are against him because the American/Mexicans are drawn into him and so what? If you ain't good enough you will be found wanting, but i don't think it'll be anytime soon for Canelo.

Rabchenko looked like a stereotypical, robotic eastern european fighter with great workrate, great technique but that lack of spark. You either have it or you don't. And, Canelo's win over Rhodes was far more impressive, he totally dominated Rhodes and Az i have no idea why you continue to argue a point thats invalid.

Rhodes was fresher against Canelo and Rhodes took a beating.
Rabchenko Vs Rhodes was fairly close up until the stoppage, but it takes more to wear someone down then just wait for 'that' knockout.

Theres not a few who think Canelo wins. I'm pretty sure only Az thinks that Canelo gets stopped

He is better than Rabchenko in every department and although Rabchenko has power I would say he's on par with Alvarez

Yeah, it's just Az talking out of his -somethingotherthanhismouth- hole again.

Think nearly everyone thinks Canelo would take him apart.

Alvarez had hometown advantage and massive support. against Rhodes. Rhodes had hometown ad against Rab. They both upped their game as a result. Take Ryan to B-Russia and he wouldn't have put up that performance.

If Canelo hit Rhodes with 200 power punches, it speaks volumes about his punch power. If Rhodes had caught Saul with the same shot he caught Rab with in #3, we would be talking about Rhodes being WBC champ. I mean if Cotto can take him to queer street, a full blown LMW would put him to sleep.

Az, talking about Alvarez again. You really don't like gingers, do you

Seanusarrilius wrote:Az, talking about Alvarez again. You really don't like gingers, do you

I'm stumped there!

haha