The 606v2 Fantastic Fantasy Football Homepage page XIX

by **Hero** Thu 21 Jun 2012, 1:01 pm

First topic message reminder :

606V2 EURODivision

Announcements

Don't forget to take part in the Euro 2012 sweepstake! If you want to take part then please take £1m off your team budget and let the runners know you are taken part by Monday 11th. Prize money yet to be confirmed. Draw is as follows, which will be updated when managers confirm they are taking part:

5 – Marky - Denmark (Taking Part)
6 – Twist - Germany (Taking Part)
8 – Sodhat - Portugal (Taking Part)
1 – Viva – Czech Republic (Taking Part)
16 – Sainty - Ukraine
10 – Cherrries - Italy (Taking Part)
7 – Olly - Netherlands (Taking Part)
2 – Nando - Greece (Taking Part)
9 – Gav - Croatia
15 – Hero - Sweden (Taking Part)
3 – Tooze - Poland (Taking Part)
12 – Russ - Spain (Taking Part)
11 – TSC/Afro – Rep of Ireland (Taking Part)
4 – Nadz - Russia (Taking Part)
14 – Trebs - France (Taking Part)
13 – Bull - England (Taking Part)

Everyone in Premier League (who votes on Championship) send their results to:
TwisT and Sodhat

Everyone in Championship (who votes on Premier League) send their results to:
Hero and TSC

To Qualify for the £2M Bonus, teams need to post their tactics by Midnight on Wednesday and PM their results by Midnight on Friday

Premier League

Real Ale Sociedad - TwisT

Tactics

The London Silly Nannies - Sodhat

Injuries

AC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - Marky

Lawyers

Viva City - VivaPaulScholes

Fixtures

Cunning Canaries FC - ollyrules

Results

AFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando

Table

Borussia Munchingballsack - Sainty

FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfan

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Championship

Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - Hero

Tactics

Jacamos United - TSC

Injuries

Hangover 69 - Greggers

Lawyers

Sporting Sideburns FC - Gav

Fixtures

Treble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners

Results

Go Ahead Eagles - Russell_Elmo

Table

Straight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBull

City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze

by **Hero** Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:34 pm

Ah I remember the days of the Furious League when Viva used to knock one out over Young even more than you do over Grant Holt.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:37 pm

Hero wrote:Ah I remember the days of the Furious League when Viva used to knock one out over Young even more than you do over Grant Holt.

Don't think that is possible Laugh

All I know is that Young was absolutely awful all tournament. Seriously can't remember him doing anything good. Glen Johnson for me was very good

And also #GrantHoltwouldhavescoredhispenalty

by Bull Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:38 pm

if lampard was not injured they would have won Wink

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:41 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:if lampard was not injured they would have won

Lampard wouldn't have played in the 4-4-2 system over Gerrard or Parker The 606v2 Fantastic Fantasy Football Homepage page XIX - Page 15 3559488474

by Bull Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:49 pm

Sub would have changed the game.

and scored Youngs pen. Wink

by FIFA Diva Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:49 pm

Lol Young, Downing will be coming home with a better reputation then Young.

All I know is England have never won the Euros without Rio Ferdinand in their squad, what a big mistake by Roy Hodgson sack him now bring in a foreign manager.

Scholes should have gone instead of the idiotic Henderson.

by Bull Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:50 pm

so...theres all ways the world cup and would be better to win that then the euros.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:51 pm

And can I say how bad was Rooney. Non existent all game and again fails to perform on the big stage for England

by Bull Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:55 pm

why should roy be sacked Viva?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 24 Jun 2012, 10:56 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Lol Young, Downing will be coming home with a better reputation then Young.

All I know is England have never won the Euros without Rio Ferdinand in their squad, what a big mistake by Roy Hodgson sack him now bring in a foreign manager.

Scholes should have gone instead of the idiotic Henderson.

All I know is that England have never won the Euros without Grant Holt in their squad either. Or Michael Ricketts. Or Carlton Palmer. Or Andy Sinton

by Marky Sun 24 Jun 2012, 11:00 pm

Young was awful and I predicted him to miss a penalty at about 65 mins.

Cole should have done better from the spot but was exceptional through the tournament.

by Russell_Elmo Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:30 am

Olly wrote:
TheBrahmaBull wrote:if lampard was not injured they would have won

Lampard wouldn't have played in the 4-4-2 system over Gerrard or Parker

You say that but Gerard and Parker looked tired after 60 minutes.

by Russell_Elmo Mon 25 Jun 2012, 12:32 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Lol Young, Downing will be coming home with a better reputation then Young.

All I know is England have never won the Euros without Rio Ferdinand in their squad, what a big mistake by Roy Hodgson sack him now bring in a foreign manager.

Scholes should have gone instead of the idiotic Henderson.

That's a bit hasty.. Hodgson did a good job an the decision to not pick a play that can't play 3 games in quick succession next to John Terry who played amazing and saved England on numerous occasions.

by Russell_Elmo Mon 25 Jun 2012, 8:49 am

what are we doing about tactics this week? are we pm'ing them or just posting them in a spoiler?

by FIFA Diva Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:11 am

Morning

Lescott outperformed Terry and was our best defender, Terry was ok nothing special his court date coming soon I hope he gets 10 years. Rio played 3 games in 8 days 3 times last season so let's that myth.

Lescott, Gerrard, Welbeck, are the only players who can go home with their heads held high. Hart needs to stop making silly faces and save the shots.

by FIFA Diva Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:13 am

Tactics as normal put them in a spoiler.

by sodhat Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:15 am

Bit harsh on Terry, he may be slow and old and a bit crap at playing offside but he had a decent tournament. Perhaps letting personal dislike get in the way there Viva.

Hart deserves some credit, he played well in all of the games, and he can't be blamed for not saving penalties. Aside from the one that went wide, they were all good kicks.

Young was appalling, Rooney too, and as soon as Carroll came on we decided that we'd boot it up to him and that was that. I wish I wasn't an England fan because I could have changed the channel or played Fifa or something rather than watch that...

by **Afro** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:16 am

How frustrating watching that England side?

You see Young in the Premier League, and for England in the last 12 months, and he has produced the good. The this tournament, he was completely anonymous.

And although I thought the opposite originally, in hindsight I think Hodgson made the correct choice not taking Ferdinand in the end. Terry was one of England's better players and Ferdinand would never have put his body on the line in the same way. Terry / Lescott > Ferdinand / Lescott.

Anyway, busy day today so going to make this a fleeting visit and avoid the temptation to pop back on every five minutes.

by Bull Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:17 am

Hart was good Viva , why should he stop making silly faces?

would rather go home with a bit of fun then disappointment

nobody expected much it was get to the QF any thing else was a bonus

by sodhat Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:20 am

I wouldn't call that game fun Bull. We were horrible and playing horrible football. In a way it's best we went out before Germany got to us.

by TwisT Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:20 am

PL Table and Results page updated.

Well done on draw Marky. Good game

by FIFA Diva Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:44 am

Sodhat if Terry played good I'd have said it he was average below Lescott, Gerrard was our best player and led us like a captain. Afro he may not fly around blocking the ball but he has something else to his game.

Bull because he was more concerned about playing crappy mind games then saving penaltys, Buffon did the right thing. Hart was ok he spilt a few balls in the tournament nothing special didn't look like a world class keeper.

Like I said Lescott, Gerrard and Welbeck can go home knowing they put in a performance the rest were poor or average.

by **Afro** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 9:50 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Sodhat if Terry played good I'd have said it he was average below Lescott, Gerrard was our best player and led us like a captain. Afro he may not fly around blocking the ball but he has something else to his game.

Bull because he was more concerned about playing crappy mind games then saving penaltys, Buffon did the right thing. Hart was ok he spilt a few balls in the tournament nothing special didn't look like a world class keeper.

Like I said Lescott, Gerrard and Welbeck can go home knowing they put in a performance the rest were poor or average.

I was saying that Ferdinand wouldn't have brought anything Lescott didn't, so Terry was a better partner for Lescott than Ferdinand would have been. He brought stuff that Lescott didn't. Ferdinand wouldn't have.

I thought Hart was good as well. He made more saves than any other keeper in the tournament so far, and if you look at the goals we conceded, you can't really blame him for any of them. He took charge of his area and his punching clear has been top draw. Always first to the ball, and the ball is always away from danger. And I also think he made as good an effort to save those penalties as any other keeper, so the toungue out business didn't really make any difference. It might even have made Montolivo miss, so might actually have benefited us.

by FIFA Diva Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:18 am

For a keeper who is supposed to be one of the best in the world he didn't look like it was not that good on crosses. Sticking tounges and stupid faces what was the point, good effort is not good enough.

England need to bring in youth or the younger lads for 2014 qualifiers merge them with some of the older guys.

by FIFA Diva Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:31 am

What would everyones 2014 qualifying team be like?

by The Special Juan Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:31 am

That Andrea Pirlo is a cheeky bar steward is he not? (Note: I typed in "bar steward" instead of the filtered word because I'm a good little boy)

Glad Rooney scored his penalty, at least his spirit won't be broken for next season. Hopefully Hart has a woeful season now and costs City the title in March. And I laughed so hard at Cashley it was painful. Where was he all night? All I saw was Young defending at LB.

by Marky Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:33 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:What would everyones 2014 qualifying team be like?

Hart

Walker - Cahill - Lescott - Cole

Gerrard - Wilshere

Walcott - Rooney - Oxlade-Chamberlain

Welbeck

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:34 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:For a keeper who is supposed to be one of the best in the world he didn't look like it was not that good on crosses. Sticking tounges and stupid faces what was the point, good effort is not good enough.

England need to bring in youth or the younger lads for 2014 qualifiers merge them with some of the older guys.

The point was to try and put them off. Didn't work but better than not trying.

And from crosses I thought Hart was commanding. Just because he punched the ball a lot doesn't make him bad, in fact if you look at the punches they all cleared the penalty area and the danger

by cherriesfna Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:35 am

agree completly marky, but this should be gerrard last active involvement in competitve internationals

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:36 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:What would everyones 2014 qualifying team be like?

Hart
Walker - Cahill - Jones - Cole
Oxlade - Chamberlain - Gerrard - Wilshere - Johnson
Rooney
Welbeck/Carroll

by TwisT Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:37 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:What would everyones 2014 qualifying team be like?

----------------------Hart---------------------------
Johnson-------Jones--------Lescott------------Baines
---------------------Rodwell-------------------------
Walcott-------Gerrard-------Wilshire-----------Young
---------------------Rooney------------------------

by cherriesfna Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:38 am

the fact remains that wallcott and oxo played the best out of all the wide men but were on the bench the majority of the time

by The Special Juan Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:44 am

Green
Johnson-A. Ferdinand-Terry-Naughton
Dyer-Barry-Barton-Downing
Carroll-Bent

by sodhat Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:50 am

Walcott is still not going to make it to my side, I just don't think he is good enough.

Walker must get a look in now, Johnson needs a move and he'll be in on the left. Wilshere needs to come back, and hopefully Jones cracks on at United and takes a CB spot.

by sodhat Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:51 am

Championship lawyers are up by the way

Get in fast, they will self destruct shortly

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:53 am

Think if you look to the future we have good players coming through:

GK's: Hart, Butland
RB's: Walker, Richards
CB's: Cahill, Jones, Smalling (need another here)
LB's: Baines, Gibbs
RM's: Walcott, Sterling
CM's: Wilshere, Rodwell, Henderson (need another here)
LM's: The Ox, Adam Johnson
ST's: Welbeck, Carroll, Rooney, Wickham

by sodhat Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:54 am

Olly wrote:Think if you look to the future we have good players coming through:

GK's: Hart, Butland
RB's: Walker, Richards
CB's: Cahill, Jones, Smalling (need another here)
LB's: Baines, Gibbs
RM's: Walcott, Sterling
CM's: Wilshere, Rodwell, Henderson (need another here)
LM's: The Ox, Adam Johnson
ST's: Welbeck, Carroll, Rooney, Wickham

Surprised you'd include a Tractor Boy on there Olly...

by FIFA Diva Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:55 am

Tom Cleverly who at the moment is ahead of the other three.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:56 am

sodhat wrote:
Olly wrote:Think if you look to the future we have good players coming through:

GK's: Hart, Butland
RB's: Walker, Richards
CB's: Cahill, Jones, Smalling (need another here)
LB's: Baines, Gibbs
RM's: Walcott, Sterling
CM's: Wilshere, Rodwell, Henderson (need another here)
LM's: The Ox, Adam Johnson
ST's: Welbeck, Carroll, Rooney, Wickham

Surprised you'd include a Tractor Boy on there Olly...

If I've included a Tractor Boy in there Sodhat, he must have potential Laugh

Also on a side note we have the likes of Jonny Howson and Ryan Bennett at Norwich who could become solid Premier League players, and decent England squad players

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:56 am

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Tom Cleverly who at the moment is ahead of the other three.

Knew I was forgetting someone Doh

by Gregers Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:58 am

Bertand at left back, McEachran at center mid, Hutchingson at RB/CB

by **Afro** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:59 am

If I'm honest, I think we really lack the quality of striker coming through to partner Rooney.

Welbeck did alright. Carrol had his moments. But I don't think either are going to make the opposition fear them unless they improve further.

Perhaps Sturridge?

Ultimately, our side for the future is going to be built around Wilshere

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 10:59 am

Gregers wrote:Bertand at left back, McEachran at center mid, Hutchingson at RB/CB

Bertrand and Hutchinson will never be I'm sorry Gregers Wink

McEachran needs to improve, and get more game time but has the potential

by The Special Juan Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:00 am

Tom Cleverley - Amazing but never fit for us.

Who won't be there in 2014? I'll say Gerrard, Lamps, Terry, Ferdinand, Parker and Walnut.

by The Special Juan Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:03 am

Anyway, enough from me. Only came on to read the reactions of depressed England fans. Ta ra.

by Gregers Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:03 am

If, and its a big if, Wilshere is ever properly fit again.

----------------Hart---------------
-Walker--Cahill(c)--Jones--Bertrand-
--------------Rodwell--------------
-------McEachran-Wilshere---------
--Ox----------Rooney---Henderson-
--------------Sturridge------------

Or replace Henderson with Adam Johnson, McEachran with Cleverley and Sturridge with Wellbeck. That in my eyes is a properly good side.

And Olly, can you please refer to him by his proper name... "The Champions League Winning" Ryan Bertrand.

by **Afro** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:04 am

There is no way that Cleverley is ahead of Wilshere in the pecking order.

Had he been fit, Wilshere would have been straight in the starting XI. Had Cleverley been fit, there is no guarantee he would have made the squad

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:05 am

FOOMING STILL NEAYL. WHO DOES OLD POLO FROM ITALY SHINK HE IS CHIPPERN A PENETLTY BUH? OLD HOOLAHOOPAN TRY IT ONCE BUH AND HOW'D THAT GO?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:06 am

Gregers wrote:If, and its a big if, Wilshere is ever properly fit again.

----------------Hart---------------
-Walker--Cahill(c)--Jones--Bertrand-
--------------Rodwell--------------
-------McEachran-Wilshere---------
--Ox----------Rooney---Henderson-
--------------Sturridge------------

Or replace Henderson with Adam Johnson, McEachran with Cleverley and Sturridge with Wellbeck. That in my eyes is a properly good side.

And Olly, can you please refer to him by his proper name... "The Champions League Winning" Ryan Bertrand.

In fact Gregers it is ..... "The Champions League Winning" former Canary Ryan Bertrand

by **Afro** Mon 25 Jun 2012, 11:09 am

Rodwell hasn't progressed enough to be considered at the moment.

Next season is a massive on for him.

I wouldn't have Cleverley anywhere near the England team. Whilst he is great at what he does, he is the exact type of player that has failed for England over the last 20 years. High energy, box to box.

It would be nice to start to build a team who could pass and retain possession as that is what is needed at international level. We should be steering clear of the Cleverley type players.

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