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Post by bogbrush Tue 26 Jun 2012, 8:43 am

First topic message reminder :

Well having enjoyed good weather throughout the first days play it feels a bit weird to have matches carried over into the second day. Imagine where the event will be if there's rain!!

Anyway, today is traditionally Ladies Day, or perhaps in 2012 it might be called Drama Queens Day, for reasons I don't fully understand Wink

Nadal and Murray enter the fray after yesterdays routine wins for Federer and Djokovic. Isner and Berdych bit the dust yesterday; any surprises in store?
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Post by daltond Tue 26 Jun 2012, 3:55 pm

luciusmann wrote:
daltond wrote:The fact that Nadull has won 2 Wimbledons is an aberration.

He would have never won Wimbledon in the 1990s.

Don't speak too soon, Nadal is getting back into this match.

Nadal ain't winning another slam off clay. Bet on it.

He will have to wait until Monte Carlo 2013 to win another title again.

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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 3:56 pm

And Bellucci has been broken again. I had a feeling this was coming. If anything Nadal is a fighter and that's why he's back in this match despite being down 4-0 at one point.

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Post by daltond Tue 26 Jun 2012, 3:57 pm

Cmon Bellucci, beat the dirtballer.

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Post by Danny_1982 Tue 26 Jun 2012, 3:57 pm

Bet he wishes he could have those 2 volleys back now.

Back on serve. I love Bellucci's style of play. Wow he's inconsistent though.

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Post by daltond Tue 26 Jun 2012, 3:58 pm

Nadal ain't winning another tournament or slam off clay. Bet on it.

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Post by kemet Tue 26 Jun 2012, 3:58 pm

luciusmann wrote:And Bellucci has been broken again. I had a feeling this was coming. If anything Nadal is a fighter and that's why he's back in this match despite being down 4-0 at one point.

Rafa gets everything back and makes players hit an extra shot.

Rafa is going to win this match in straight sets.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 26 Jun 2012, 3:58 pm

Bellucci was seeded at last years Wimbledon. Now he ranked 76th in the world Shocked
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Post by Tom_____ Tue 26 Jun 2012, 3:59 pm

daltond wrote:The fact that Nadull has won 2 Wimbledons is an aberration.

He would have never won Wimbledon in the 1990s.

Yes and in that sense so was Djokovic's & Hewitts and in some senses Federers after 03/04.

Also that guy called Borg didn't fit in with the usual grass play, and Agassi must've dreamed his title, final and SF appearances
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Post by Tom_____ Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:01 pm

daltond wrote:Cmon Bellucci, beat the dirtballer.

i wonder if we are seeing a cloaked return of a long lost 606 poster here? Very interesting terminology used: 'Dirtballer' and 'Nadull'

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:01 pm

Nadal is so boring. Why can't he lose
the set 6-0 and make it worth watching?
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Post by banbrotam Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:02 pm

daltond wrote:
luciusmann wrote:
daltond wrote:The fact that Nadull has won 2 Wimbledons is an aberration.

He would have never won Wimbledon in the 1990s.

Don't speak too soon, Nadal is getting back into this match.

Nadal ain't winning another slam off clay. Bet on it.

He will have to wait until Monte Carlo 2013 to win another title again.


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! I've only read two 'opinions' about Nadal's plight both are disrespectful wummery of epic proportions. If Murray's career, was judged on the first four games he'd be about No. 504 in the world.

I sure that some of us (not me!!) could look a million dollars for 10 minutes against Rafa, unfortunately Bellucci is about to discover that you have to do it for at least two hours with no let up

However, given Roger's serene progress yesterday - Rafa's current 'troubles' do mean that if they should meet in the final a repeat of the 2006 result is a cast iron guarantee Rolling Eyes

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Post by TopoftheChops Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:03 pm

Great hold from Bellucci

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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:03 pm

Tom_____ wrote: Yes and in that sense so was Djokovic's & Hewitts and in some senses Federers after 03/04.

Also that guy called Borg didn't fit in with the usual grass play, and Agassi must've dreamed his title, final and SF appearances
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Fed won 5 in a row and has won a total of 6 Wimbledon titles, it's silly to call that an aberration of any kind or even allude to some of those titles as such. In no sense was it an aberration. It's completely unnecessary to bring other players into this. Nadal has made 5 Wimbledon finals, of course his 2 Wimbledon titles weren't an aberration.

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Post by daltond Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:06 pm

Cmon Bellucci, beat the dirtballer.

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Post by banbrotam Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:06 pm

Tom_____ wrote:
daltond wrote:Cmon Bellucci, beat the dirtballer.

i wonder if we are seeing a cloaked return of a long lost 606 poster here? Very interesting terminology used: 'Dirtballer' and 'Nadull'



Sadly Tom, that is not only a distinct possibility but a cast iron certainty.

What is is with Fed fans (and it is nearly always them) that make them hate Nadal too much?

Do you think it could be that 8-2 Slam losing record? Laugh

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Post by Guest Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:07 pm

Tsonga looks like he is in top form. Some of his shots, especially on the return are fairly delightful to watch.

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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:07 pm

banbrotam wrote: Sadly Tom, that is not only a distinct possibility but a cast iron certainty.

What is is with Fed fans (and it is nearly always them) that make them hate Nadal too much?

Do you think it could be that 8-2 Slam losing record? Laugh

You might want to say some Fed fans. I'm a Fed fan and I'm enjoying the tennis without bashing other players here.

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Post by TopoftheChops Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:08 pm

Ward loses first set 6-4

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Post by daltond Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:08 pm

banbrotam wrote:
daltond wrote:
luciusmann wrote:
daltond wrote:The fact that Nadull has won 2 Wimbledons is an aberration.

He would have never won Wimbledon in the 1990s.

Don't speak too soon, Nadal is getting back into this match.

Nadal ain't winning another slam off clay. Bet on it.

He will have to wait until Monte Carlo 2013 to win another title again.


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! I've only read two 'opinions' about Nadal's plight both are disrespectful wummery of epic proportions. If Murray's career, was judged on the first four games he'd be about No. 504 in the world.

I sure that some of us (not me!!) could look a million dollars for 10 minutes against Rafa, unfortunately Bellucci is about to discover that you have to do it for at least two hours with no let up

However, given Roger's serene progress yesterday - Rafa's current 'troubles' do mean that if they should meet in the final a repeat of the 2006 result is a cast iron guarantee Rolling Eyes

The winner of Wimbledon this year is coming from the top half. Either Djokovic or Federer.

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Post by bogbrush Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:08 pm

It isn't on this ocassion bantroban.

Lazy and inflammatory, bantroban, and not very smart coming from someone trying to make out they're on the high ground.


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Post by Guest Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:09 pm

ps One can always choose to ignore the WUM comments. Let them reveal themselves through their comments.

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Post by daltond Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:10 pm

Nore Staat wrote:Tsonga looks like he is in top form. Some of his shots, especially on the return are fairly delightful to watch.

Tsonga is beating Nadal this year at Wimbledon if Nadal does not lose earlier.

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Post by TopoftheChops Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:11 pm

Ward 2 breaks up in second set 3-0 up

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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:11 pm

daltond wrote: Tsonga is beating Nadal this year at Wimbledon if Nadal does not lose earlier.

It could happen but let's take each match as they come instead of making bold predictions way into the second week. We're only a few days into the first week!

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Post by Tom_____ Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:14 pm

daltond wrote:The fact that Nadull has won 2 Wimbledons is an aberration.

He would have never won Wimbledon in the 1990s.

luciusmann wrote:
Tom_____ wrote: Yes and in that sense so was Djokovic's & Hewitts and in some senses Federers after 03/04.

Also that guy called Borg didn't fit in with the usual grass play, and Agassi must've dreamed his title, final and SF appearances
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Fed won 5 in a row and has won a total of 6 Wimbledon titles, it's silly to call that an aberration of any kind or even allude to some of those titles as such. In no sense was it an aberration. It's completely unnecessary to bring other players into this. Nadal has made 5 Wimbledon finals, of course his 2 Wimbledon titles weren't an aberration.

Note I was being massively sarcastic in my post to daltond Lucius.


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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:15 pm

Ignore banbro lucius. He's clearly a fanatical anti-Fed plodder. His idol must have been Sampras, now his records were quickly passed by a far more skilled player and he's not liking it. Get used to it banbro zen
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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:15 pm

Okay Tom.

Onto a tie breaker. This will be interesting, Nadal should edge this I think.

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Post by bogbrush Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:18 pm

Nadal looks poor here, happy for him he's playing a mental midget.

These greener courts - me likely!
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Post by Guest Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:18 pm

There seems to be a lot of comments about the commentators own fantasies rather than comments on the actual tennis being played.

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Post by daltond Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:19 pm

bogbrush wrote:Nadal looks poor here, happy for him he's playing a mental midget.

These greener courts - me likely!

Nadal is a claycourt specialist.

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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:19 pm

There errors from Belucci are horrific. Nadal hasn't really needed to work hard in this tie breaker.

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Post by TopoftheChops Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:20 pm

Ward wins second set 6-0

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:20 pm

daltond wrote:
bogbrush wrote:Nadal looks poor here, happy for him he's playing a mental midget.

These greener courts - me likely!

Nadal is a claycourt specialist.

Yes well done clap picard
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Post by daltond Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:21 pm

Tsonga will take the trash(Nadal) out in the QF

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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:22 pm

Perfect tie breaker from Nadal.

We can expect Belucci to roll over now.

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Post by Guest Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:23 pm

TopoftheChops wrote:Ward wins second set 6-0
What on earth happened. Ward had a poor service game to lose the first set 4-6. I assumed that Andujar had "imposed" himself on Ward and would run away with the next two sets. It shows that Ward has a lot of fight within him perhaps.

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Post by Guest Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:25 pm

Tsonga has the break and so should now see this match out in straight sets against Hewitt.

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Post by Tom_____ Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:26 pm

I'm not really surprised to see Nadal start slow. In 2010 he was lacklustre in R1, R2 and R3 (two 5 set matches against Hasse and Petzs) and then toward the last 3 rounds started to look near invulnerable - particularly after being 5-1 down in the first set vs Soderling in the QF. Up until that point people were saying he had little chance of winning it.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:27 pm

Bellucci; 1 point from 5-0 up in the set, loses it to LOVE in a breaker. Absolutely priceless. I wonder if he goes to bed thinking up ways in which he can make himself look stupid?
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:30 pm

Tsonga's level of play is amazing in the early rounds.
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Post by Seifer Almasy Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:39 pm

Nadal is finished very soon as a player. Enjoy the useless defensive moonballing cheat while you can Wink It is gonna be great watching him get marmalised this year against Djok fed or tsonga.

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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:43 pm

Can we be spared the rash predictions....at least until the second week.

Belucci is hanging in there, which I'm glad to see. I was expecting a Ferrer rolling over performance after the first set loss but he's held on which I'm happy to see. Nothing worse than an opponent giving up after a crucial blow.

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Post by bogbrush Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:47 pm

Belucci really is hugely limited when it comes to movement.
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Post by bogbrush Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:48 pm

And volleying. Pathetic.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:49 pm

Bellucci's key volleys are failing him at crucial times and it looks like it will cost him the match.
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Post by luciusmann Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:49 pm

bogbrush wrote:Belucci really is hugely limited when it comes to movement.

I personally though his touch is what hinder him. Any shot requiring a deft touch or a volley and he's been woeful. Not surprising really.

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Post by Danny_1982 Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:54 pm

Bellucci is such a sweet striker of the ball and has a great serve and a decent second serve. But my word have you ever seen a worse vollier?

I reckon I'd do better charging to the net blindfolded holding a banjo.

You can see how he flirted with the top 20 though. I wonder if he'll ever find himself near the top 20 again? I love watching him play, he looks top 10 at times and yet looks awful with anything played low and short.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue 26 Jun 2012, 4:58 pm

Kevin Anderson (potential 3rd Round opponent for Murray) is in trouble against the talented youngster Grigor Dmitrov and trails by two sets to love.
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Post by Danny_1982 Tue 26 Jun 2012, 5:01 pm

Craig - assuming Murray gets there, who would rather he played out of Anderson and Dimitrov?

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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue 26 Jun 2012, 5:04 pm

Ward now up against it losing the third set 6-3.
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