Wimbledon Day 2, or Day 1b

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Well having enjoyed good weather throughout the first days play it feels a bit weird to have matches carried over into the second day. Imagine where the event will be if there's rain!!

Anyway, today is traditionally Ladies Day, or perhaps in 2012 it might be called Drama Queens Day, for reasons I don't fully understand

Nadal and Murray enter the fray after yesterdays routine wins for Federer and Djokovic. Isner and Berdych bit the dust yesterday; any surprises in store?

For me Murray would probably prefer to face Anderson. Anderson only really has a serve game, and like Isner has no return game whatsoever. So Murray one of the best returners in the game would have little trouble against Anderson IMO

Danny_1982 wrote:Craig - assuming Murray gets there, who would rather he played out of Anderson and Dimitrov?

Not too fussed to be honest. They both have their own qualities and weaknesses.

It is now turning into a routine First Round match for Rafael Nadal. Now looks to be cruising to a straight sets victory.

CaledonianCraig wrote:It is now turning into a routine First Round match for Rafael Nadal. Now looks to be cruising to a straight sets victory.

Very lucky he is against that guy but we await his utter demolition that is certain to come

Tsonga is the threat to Nadal. Very impressive serving against Hewitt.

Baghdatis doing the business. Unlike Berdbrain, the talented Cypriot does not lose 1st rounds.

A real marathon going on Court 8. Garcia-Lopez leads Vasselin 8-7 in the fifth set after four and a half hours play.

Ward a break up in the fourth set so perhaps still hope for him.

Tsonga will definitely beat Nadull.

Seifer Almasy wrote:Nadal is finished very soon as a player. Enjoy the useless defensive moonballing cheat while you can It is gonna be great watching him get marmalised this year against Djok fed or tsonga.

Yup.

CaledonianCraig wrote:A real marathon going on Court 8. Garcia-Lopez leads Vasselin 8-7 in the fifth set after four and a half hours play.

Garcia-Lopez wins 10-8 in the fifth set after well over four and three quarter hours.

Del Potro a set to the good against Robin Haase winning it 6-4.

daltond wrote:

Seifer Almasy wrote:Nadal is finished very soon as a player. Enjoy the useless defensive moonballing cheat while you can It is gonna be great watching him get marmalised this year against Djok fed or tsonga.

Yup.

Why do not we let him get to QF before we 'marmalise' 'Nadull' ?

Nadal wins in straight sets 7-6 6-2 6-3. Next up on Centre Court - Andy Murray V Nikolay Davydenko.

I heard some group of booing when Nadal turned to salute the crowd at the end.

Not quite as popular as his die-hard army would want you to think.

bogbrush wrote:It isn't on this ocassion bantroban.

Lazy and inflammatory, bantroban, and not very smart coming from someone trying to make out they're on the high ground.

Look apologies, to all the good Fed fans, I meant to put 'some' in the sentence, as I usually do, but forgot.

And please BB don't you get all high and mighty - given that you often make comments that could be seen as 'sweeping'

Apologies again

Anderson pulls a set back against Dmitrov in a third set tie break. Ward now into a deciding set as well.

Josiah Maiestas wrote:I heard some group of booing when Nadal turned to salute the crowd at the end.

Not quite as popular as his die-hard army would want you to think.

The Brits have great taste.

Haase at 1 set all and a break up on Del Potro. That was my upset prediction for the round, made on this thread.

banbrotam wrote:

bogbrush wrote:It isn't on this ocassion bantroban.

Lazy and inflammatory, bantroban, and not very smart coming from someone trying to make out they're on the high ground.

Look apologies, to all the good Fed fans, I meant to put 'some' in the sentence, as I usually do, but forgot.

And please BB don't you get all high and mighty - given that you often make comments that could be seen as 'sweeping'

Apologies again

It's for others to rate me high and mighty, and a little enbarressing, but thanks anyway.

bogbrush wrote:Haase at 1 set all and a break up on Del Potro. That was my upset prediction for the round, made on this thread.

Not watching that but how is Del Potro's knee holding up?

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Ignore banbro lucius. He's clearly a fanatical anti-Fed plodder. His idol must have been Sampras, now his records were quickly passed by a far more skilled player and he's not liking it. Get used to it banbro

The person who can write articles like this https://www.606v2.com/t31687-dirtballer-nadal-looking-like-a-fish-out-of-water-off-clay talks about others being fanatical

As usaul my young student you get it wrong on several fronts;-

1) I tend to use stats showing the fragile side of Roger - to put arrogant Fed fans in their place, not because I don't like his play. That's why I owed the generally good Fed fans like BB and luciusman an apology
2) Sampras was never my idol - well done for giving the biggest insult you could ever do
3) My all times faves, in order (those who are 30 or over, so we can judge their career) are McEnroe, Agassi, Connors, Federer and Mecir. Note, that Roger is in there!!! (BB thinks that because I occasionally criticise him then I can't be a fan - but I thank Roger for saving us from a decade of Roddick and Tommy Haas )

Many thanks

Andy Murray looking comfortable so far winning the first set 6-1. Ward looks like he is set for a win and Elena Baltacha is also through.

Dmitrov through in four sets against Kevin Anderson. Another seed bites the dust.

Ward looks like winning;5-3 5th set.

Ward wins.

James Ward through in five sets. Well played and a great result for him. Lets hope he can build on that.

daltond wrote:

Josiah Maiestas wrote:I heard some group of booing when Nadal turned to salute the crowd at the end.

Not quite as popular as his die-hard army would want you to think.

The Brits have great taste.

So do the French.

Two excellent performances by Brits

James Ward beating the world no 36 in five sets.
Elena Baltacha beating the highly spirited and big hitting Karin Knapp. Baltacha's greater physical fitness saw her come through this highly gruelling encounter in three sets against her younger and former world number 35 opponent.

Haase / Del Boy heading for 3rd set tie break. Have to say that probably holds the key to the match.

laverfan wrote:

daltond wrote:

Seifer Almasy wrote:Nadal is finished very soon as a player. Enjoy the useless defensive moonballing cheat while you can It is gonna be great watching him get marmalised this year against Djok fed or tsonga.

Yup.

Why do not we let him get to QF before we 'marmalise' 'Nadull' ?

Becasue it's no fun for the likes of his knockers

I'm still trying to work out since when it became a certainty that the Slam serial non final appearances Tsonga would beat the serial Slam appearing Nadal, but what do I know

Tsonga did make a Slam final; AO 2008

Murray in cruise control and leads Davydenko 6-1 6-1 in 55 minutes.

bogbrush wrote:Tsonga did make a Slam final; AO 2008

BB. Stop being a tease, you know the point I'm making

And you're only mentioning this because Andrew Castle pointed out that this was the last time that Murray failed to make the 2nd round of a Slam

Typical Murray, he looks good from the beginning of the tournament, then he gets Ferrer and Nadal and he soils his pants. This trend is infinite now.

Raonic after two service games.

5 Aces. 5/5 on 1st, 3/3 on 2nd

Edit: 7 Aces in 3 games.

This guys going to be a nightmare on a fast court.

What is it with players and names ending in "ic"?

Ivanisevic, Karlovic, Raonic, Samprasovic.

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Typical Murray, he looks good from the beginning of the tournament, then he gets Ferrer and Nadal and he soils his pants. This trend is infinite now.

I know, judging on your previous comment on your own thread about Nadal that you find the thought process difficult, but can you tell us what, away from the dirt, the head to head is with Ferrer in a Slam and who outside the Top 3 is one of only two other players to have beaten Nadal at a Slam twice during the past 4 years

banbrotam wrote:

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Typical Murray, he looks good from the beginning of the tournament, then he gets Ferrer and Nadal and he soils his pants. This trend is infinite now.

I know, judging on your previous comment on your own thread about Nadal that you find the thought process difficult, but can you tell us what, away from the dirt, the head to head is with Ferrer in a Slam and who outside the Top 3 is one of only two other players to have beaten Nadal at a Slam twice during the past 4 years

Shhhh....he's thinking about it.

Erm. The Murray serve and forehand is looking good

Mind you, Davy isn't exactly repeating his 2009 O2 form

CaledonianCraig wrote:

banbrotam wrote:

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Typical Murray, he looks good from the beginning of the tournament, then he gets Ferrer and Nadal and he soils his pants. This trend is infinite now.

I know, judging on your previous comment on your own thread about Nadal that you find the thought process difficult, but can you tell us what, away from the dirt, the head to head is with Ferrer in a Slam and who outside the Top 3 is one of only two other players to have beaten Nadal at a Slam twice during the past 4 years

Shhhh....he's thinking about it.

I love Josiah. He joins in an article bear baiting Nadal fans that he can't do anything away from the dirt and then bear baits us Murray fans by making out Ferrer has Murray's number, whislt forgetting that 4 out of the 5 Ferrer wins were on, yes you've all guessed - the dirt!!

Great stuff from the young whippersnpper

CC

Have you noticed how Andy is at his best when he plays a combination of power and delicacy, rather than when he listens to his detractors and just goes for all out power

Good start, as good as anyone - but bigger tests to follow

Decent performance from Andy and a badly needed confidence builder. Looked solid in all departments but lets not get carried away as Davydenko is a pale shadow of himself. No faltering though and focus and serve was good.

Good display from Andy
Davydenko was really poor though

Karlovic goes a set up against Sela and Baker has just lost a first set tie-break against Andy Roddick.

Could be another Brit going through as Anne Keothavong leads 6-3 3-0.

Del Potro through in four sets against Haase and Milos Raonic in command of his match looking to close out the second set against Giraldo.

Raonic is a handful on these lush courts!

Yes a serving machine he is but remember Murray is renowned as one of the best returners of serve around. I wouldn't say Raonic is one of the best movers around and not a great returner himself. So not all doom and gloom if you are a Murray fan.

Oh I agree there...but it will put Murray's 2nd under pressure as yoy know if you go a break down against a guy Raonic its not good news.