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Post by HERSH Tue 26 Jun 2012, 10:40 am

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The SH teams don’t respect Wales 100% blah blah blah….

What is 1/2p on about? it has nothing to do with not respecting Wales, it’s just a case of they know they can win in a game of rugby because they believe in their own ability more than the Welsh boys do.

Once again all we hear is talk talk talk from the Welsh camp, concentrate on winning a game boys, you have the ability to do it so for the love of god show us.
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Post by anotherworldofpain Wed 27 Jun 2012, 9:46 am

Hapless Freegan wrote:
optimist wrote:
Hapless Freegan wrote:The Western Mail really is cringe-making.

Agreed. The Western Mail hasn't had a decent rugby rugby column since the days of J B G Thomas and John Billot, both sadly no longer with us.

The worst thing about the Western Mail is thas it declares itself to be the 'national newspaper of Wales'. People outside Wales might actually believe it.

So which Welsh paper I should reading to get accurate idea about Welsh rugby opinions?

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 27 Jun 2012, 9:53 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:
Hapless Freegan wrote:
optimist wrote:
Hapless Freegan wrote:The Western Mail really is cringe-making.

Agreed. The Western Mail hasn't had a decent rugby rugby column since the days of J B G Thomas and John Billot, both sadly no longer with us.

The worst thing about the Western Mail is thas it declares itself to be the 'national newspaper of Wales'. People outside Wales might actually believe it.

So which Welsh paper I should reading to get accurate idea about Welsh rugby opinions?

The Sun

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 27 Jun 2012, 9:55 am

There is no one 'national paper of Wales', so the local papers might be better, although their focus will be more on their own regions / regional players. So for the Dragons it would be the South Wales Argus (which isn't great either, but it's much better than the Western Mail). I don't know about the other local papers - I think it's the South Wales Evening Post for down Swansea way? The South Wales Echo is Cardiff's paper, but be warned: it's produced by the same people who print the Western Mail.

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Post by HERSH Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:03 am

viewtothegym wrote:Im back from a three day ban my third ban since i have been a member and much to my surprise Hersh is still writing six articles a day to incite bickering and he isn't banned! picard

Laugh

But I'm not rude or offensive Viewtothegym, I was once (I left out Scott Gibbs from a poll to find the greatest Centres of all time) and I picked up a 2/3 day ban, but I've learnt my lesson and won't be doing that again! thumbsup

There have been some good points and stories raised on this thread.
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Post by anotherworldofpain Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:15 am

Hapless Freegan wrote:There is no one 'national paper of Wales', so the local papers might be better, although their focus will be more on their own regions / regional players. So for the Dragons it would be the South Wales Argus (which isn't great either, but it's much better than the Western Mail). I don't know about the other local papers - I think it's the South Wales Evening Post for down Swansea way? The South Wales Echo is Cardiff's paper, but be warned: it's produced by the same people who print the Western Mail.

So there is no good rugby paper from Wales? Do you think that influence the very partisan opinion of some Welsh posters?

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Post by HERSH Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

I love the Western mail, they do some great rugby polls.

like who was the best player in the 2011 RWC. The top 4/5 players were all unsurprisingly all Welsh. picard
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:24 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:
Hapless Freegan wrote:There is no one 'national paper of Wales', so the local papers might be better, although their focus will be more on their own regions / regional players. So for the Dragons it would be the South Wales Argus (which isn't great either, but it's much better than the Western Mail). I don't know about the other local papers - I think it's the South Wales Evening Post for down Swansea way? The South Wales Echo is Cardiff's paper, but be warned: it's produced by the same people who print the Western Mail.

So there is no good rugby paper from Wales? Do you think that influence the very partisan opinion of some Welsh posters?

I don't think it makes much of a difference. Most Welshmen can't read. Wink

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Post by offload Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:28 am

You've got to hand it to Hersh - it's all about knowing your customers. He doesn't even bother to read the link, creates a nothing article inventing the interpretation and then gets over 100 comments. Brilliant marketing mate. If you're not in sales you should be.

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:31 am

I don't think he is very good,
Hersh is no different to the guy who does a silent fart in the lift just as his floor arrives,
he then steps out and leaves the rest to blame each other.

Or as he average person would call him a little crap stirrer.

I speak the truth in my posts and its usually a plucky Scot or depressed Irish man reporting me because they are in a mood.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:32 am

viewtothegym wrote:I don't think he is very good,
Warren Gatland is no different to the guy who does a silent fart in the lift just as his floor arrives,
he then steps out and leaves the rest to blame each other.

Or as he average person would call him a little crap stirrer.

I speak the truth in my posts and its usually a plucky Scot or depressed Irish man reporting me because they are in a mood.

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Post by offload Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:34 am

viewtothegym wrote:I don't think he is very good,
Hersh is no different to the guy who does a silent fart in the lift just as his floor arrives,
he then steps out and leaves the rest to blame each other.

Or as he average person would call him a little crap stirrer.

I speak the truth in my posts and its usually a plucky Scot or depressed Irish man reporting me because they are in a mood.

I'll have to work harder on my irony. Very Happy
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:37 am

Well when your team goes to australia and wins maybe then he'll show a little more respect?

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:38 am

Any it's the last im saying on the matter, back to the mass debating

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Post by HERSH Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:40 am

viewtothegym wrote:I don't think he is very good,
Hersh is no different to the guy who does a silent fart in the lift just as his floor arrives,
he then steps out and leaves the rest to blame each other.

Or as he average person would call him a little crap stirrer.

I speak the truth in my posts and its usually a plucky Scot or depressed Irish man reporting me because they are in a mood.

Welcome back to 606v2 Gym, but to be honest I'm not a fan of yours either, but do feel free to contribute to the article as I'm sure someone might read your efforts. thumbsup

I take it you don't want to be my friend?
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Post by Breadvan Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:48 am

Rather the Hershmeister and his harmless wumming than that censored who changes his username every 2 weeks. To think greyghost, nottins, welshladgareth are 'lifers'... Erm
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Post by emack2 Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:08 am

Truth to tell ALL the NH sides except Scotland on the basis of Club/6Ns/etc.on a 3 match basis expected at least one win.NOW face the unpalatable truth the Boks and Australia are extremely difficult to beat at Home.All BlacKs there is nigh on impossible about 36 matches in107 years against all comers lost.
Sides currently 1,2,3 IRB are difficult to beat at Home let alone away. That the
NH Countries all got within One score of a win is a very creditable performance.THE Short Tour format with the travel factor gives all the advantages to the Home side.THE GREAT Welsh side late 1960`s-70s was considered THE worst to have ever toured there in 1969.BUT it was a turning point the Coaching in the NH had caught up and overtaken the SH.The AllBlacks were by there high standards poor for most of the 1970`s a Lions loss,2 Bok tour losses another Lions loss should have happened but didn`t.England went in against a stacked deck LoftusVersfeld and Port Elizabeth the scene of MANY All Black losses.Scotland just played what was in front of them won all 3 not bad when you note 2 of the 3 sides were rated above them.

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Post by HERSH Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:13 am

Wales are down to 6th place in the IRB rankings. Doh
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Post by HERSH Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:07 pm

Tumbleweed

Not the reaction I'd thought there would be to that little bit of offical information.

I'm sure they'll get 5th place back when the AI kick off. OK
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:19 pm

It's not breaking news, Hersh.

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Post by Dontheman Wed 27 Jun 2012, 3:48 pm

OzT wrote:Na, we'll lose our warm up matches if the last couple of seasons is anything to go by, (and often lose after too) so let's play Lower Piddlington's fifth side...
Not much of a fan then.lighten up FFS

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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Wed 27 Jun 2012, 5:06 pm

who cares if we fifth or sixth we still get put into a group with a top four team . being Welsh Im sick to death playing Australia

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Post by OzT Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:30 pm

Dontheman wrote:
OzT wrote:Na, we'll lose our warm up matches if the last couple of seasons is anything to go by, (and often lose after too) so let's play Lower Piddlington's fifth side...
Not much of a fan then.lighten up FFS

Oh I dunno dontheman, think I'm ms good a fan as any on here, if you took my statement in the same joking vein as the 'play the Welsh as warmup' statement I was replying to you may see the joke, weak as it may have been.... though I thought it funny when I wrote it.

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Post by nganboy Thu 28 Jun 2012, 2:02 am

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:who cares if we fifth or sixth we still get put into a group with a top four team . being Welsh Im sick to death playing Australia

Everyone gets in a group with a top 4 team (even if its yourself) so it doesn't matter your ranking at all.
It does seem strange how often you have played them recently. Mind you, you played the ABs 3 times in 2010 and didn't have much luck then either.
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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Thu 28 Jun 2012, 8:16 am

well nganboy it be sixth time we played them come November if we lose this it be embarrassing even tho they are a better side then us .thats hell of a lot of games in a year against one team . plus the Welsh players picked for the lions .

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