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Don't forget to take part in the Euro 2012 sweepstake! If you want to take part then please take £1m off your team budget and let the runners know you are taken part by Monday 11th. Draw is as follows, which will be updated when managers confirm they are taking part:

Winner - £6m (WINNER: Russ)
Runner up - £3m (WINNER: Cherries)
Semi - £2m (WINNER: TwisT)
Semi - £2m (WINNER: Sodhat)
Top scorers - £2m (WINNER: Russ)
Worst record - £1m (WINNER: AFRO/TSC)


Everyone in Premier League (who votes on Championship) send their results to:

TwisT and Sodhat

Everyone in Championship (who votes on Premier League) send their results to:

Hero and TSC

Premier League

Real Ale Sociedad - TwisT The London Silly Nannies - SodhatAC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - MarkyViva City - VivaPaulScholesCunning Canaries FC - ollyrules
AFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando

Table

Borussia Munchingballsack - Sainty


FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfan


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Championship

Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - Hero

Tactics

Jacamos United - TSC

Injuries

Hangover 69 - Greggers

Lawyers

Sporting Sideburns FC - Afro

Fixtures

Treble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners

Results

Go Ahead Eagles - Russell_Elmo

Table

Straight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBull


City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze

Lol ok, Ledesma rings a bell. But the rest I think are ok

Gastón Ramírez signs for Real Ale. Got in quick as he is due for talks with Liverpool in the next few days.

Good signing Twist.

Bit small so got to see how he manages the physical side of the Premier League, but is an excellent player. Considered him for AM when I was managing Jacamos.

Well he is winger, so TM got that wrong I think. I can play him on the left and hazard on the right now. I think my team was a little lopsided with Podolski on the left. I much rather play him as a SS

Afro you went to see Ajax play last season, I might go Amsterdam when the Football season starts and want to watch them play. You know how much the tickets are? How does it work can I just pick tickets up from the stadium?

Would anyone rate me playing Siem De Jong? Or does he need a move first?

Just signed Isla. Have been thinking about it for a couple of days, as I only had £12.5 million to spend, but Afro just bought him up again, so I just took the plunge and signed him. Can also play him RB if needs must.

Does mean I have no money now

TwisT wrote:Well he is winger, so TM got that wrong I think. I can play him on the left and hazard on the right now. I think my team was a little lopsided with Podolski on the left. I much rather play him as a SS

Ramirez tends to play behind the striker too, but has played on the left, and definately favours moving out to the left hand side. In fact, I would say Ramirez is more of a SS than Podolski. Podolski played most of last season as a lone striker

Viva - I saw Ajax at Real Madrid, not in Amsterdam, so I don't know sorry. The only game I have seen in Holland is a second division game between Haarlem and Cambuur when I was 16 and we were on a football tour

With his Napoli connection, I keep expecting Nando to sign Gargano but he never does.

yay 500 WOrd eassay on the balfour declaration GET IN!

Olly wrote:Just signed Isla. Have been thinking about it for a couple of days, as I only had £12.5 million to spend, but Afro just bought him up again, so I just took the plunge and signed him. Can also play him RB if needs must.

Does mean I have no money now

Much more of a RB than anything else to be honest Olly. I was considering him to be able to sell Clyne and then also use him to cover RM and CM.

He also plays LB, so TM is pretty off with his positions

Olly ill give you lamps for him?

TRANSFER GOSSIP
Robin van Persie's decision not to sign a new contract at Arsenal could pave the way for a £220k-a-week move to Manchester City.
Full story: Daily Mirror
But Manchester United are also interested in the 28-year-old Dutchman and are hoping they can lure him to Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Mail
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson wants to splash out £30m on Sao Paulo midfielder Lucas Moura, 19, who is also a target for Chelsea and Real Madrid.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Mark Hateley has urged Liverpool striker Andy Carroll, 23, to leave Liverpool and join AC Milan saying he would become a better all-round player if he did.
Full story: talkSPORT
Italy star Andrea Pirlo has told Mario Balotelli, 21, to join him at Juventus, after revealing he knows exactly how to get the best out of the Manchester City striker.
Full story: The Metro
Swansea's new manager Michael Laudrup is planning moves for Genoa centre-back Chico, 25, and Villarreal midfielder Jonathan de Guzman, 24, with the pair having played under him at Real Mallorca.
Full story: Daily Star
Sunderland have joined the race to sign Ajax star Vurnon Anita, 23, according to sources in the Netherlands. Newcastle have already had a bid of about £4.5m rejected.
Full story: The Chronicle
Former Real Madrid star Guti, 35, is training with West Ham ahead of a potential free transfer.
Full story: Daily Mail
Benfica are weighing up a move for Manchester United midfielder Anderson, 24, according to reports in Portugal.
Full story: talkSPORT
Newcastle United are closing in on the signature of Lille right-back Mathieu Debuchy, 26, despite Inter Milan's attempts to try and hijack the deal.
Full story: The Metro
Fulham are ready to move for Blackburn goalkeeper Paul Robinson, 32, after his move to Turkish club Besiktas stalled.
Full story: Daily Mail
OTHER GOSSIP
Roberto Di Matteo says it is wrong to brand his Chelsea side as negative just because they "parked the bus" in their Champions League ties with Barcelona and Bayern Munich.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Manchester United midfielder Darren Fletcher is unlikely to be back for pre-season training as he tries to overcome a chronic bowel condition.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Swindon boss Paolo Di Canio says fellow Italian and Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli needs some "slaps" to turn him into a team player.
Full story: Daily Star
AND FINALLY...
Spain defender Alvaro Arbeloa was so desperate to celebrate their Euro 2012 win with the fans that he jumped off the team bus.
Full story: The Metro

Manchester United midfielder Darren Fletcher is unlikely to be back for pre-season training as he tries to overcome a chronic bowel condition.

I don't think he'll come back to play Football again which is a real shame we really miss him thats why I wanted Felliani. I hope he can contol the illness and live his life.

I have signed Gary Medel as I couldn't see him anywhere in the league.

I was a bit surprised with all the love for Vidal that noone had taken Medel at such a cheap price as well, so let me know if he is already in the league.

is ba staying tyneside

Ba to Liverpool is the latest rumour

BigFellasAfro wrote:

TwisT wrote:Well he is winger, so TM got that wrong I think. I can play him on the left and hazard on the right now. I think my team was a little lopsided with Podolski on the left. I much rather play him as a SS

Ramirez tends to play behind the striker too, but has played on the left, and definately favours moving out to the left hand side. In fact, I would say Ramirez is more of a SS than Podolski. Podolski played most of last season as a lone striker

Viva - I saw Ajax at Real Madrid, not in Amsterdam, so I don't know sorry. The only game I have seen in Holland is a second division game between Haarlem and Cambuur when I was 16 and we were on a football tour

Very true, but I can see him playing either behind Giroud or to the left of him next season. I am sure Arsene is going for 4-3-3 next season. Song, Arteta, M'Vila. Then Podolski, Giroud and someone on the right. Walcott if he doesn't go

I agree that I think he will be on the left of a front three, with Walcott or Chamberlain on the right. Similar to where he plays for Germany I would have thought.

Not sure about that formation working for Giroud though. He thrived with an AM right behind him at Montpellier.

I also don't think M'vila will go to Arsenal. I expect them to sign Capoue who will be similar, but cheaper

Delighted with the signing of Steven Naismith to Everton. Not sure whether he will cut it the Premier League, but it does mean that Anichebe is no longer our back-up striker.

Afro, Naismith is dreadful. Honestly, Jelavic worked but Naismith is just soooooooooooooooooooooo bad.

I signed Naismith for United on fifa at one point when he had a very high rating, think it was 85

And, when you look at the deals I did over the past couple of days with Gregers and Twist, I've lost Hazard, Ben Arfa, Cabaye and signed Dzogaev and Marchisio, getting a 16.5m budget boost too. Think I've done relatively well there.

I think M'Vila will be a transfer last day signing.......people are in two minds about him and his attitude.

Last call for people who want to do deals with Real Ale before I go on my hols.

i signed eriksen for 42m for Wolfsburg on Fifa after his rating went from 77-88 in 3 seasons!

i have De Gea , Marcelo , Hummles , Sahin , Eriksen , Busquets , Moutinho , Llorante , Gatain

some of the big signings at the club.

My biggest signing was David Goodwillie for a bargain of £18m...............

The Special Juan wrote:Afro, Naismith is dreadful. Honestly, Jelavic worked but Naismith is just soooooooooooooooooooooo bad.

Which is still better than Anichebe

Jelavic has said he is the best strike partner he has ever had, so even if the only benefit from him is that it makes Jelavic 10% better then we'll take him, especially on a free.

i did all so get an offer of £25m for Joey Barton when i was managing QPR from Bayern Munich!

Mighty you didn't do well there.

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Mighty you didn't do well there.

He didn't really did he. Especially when he could have kept Reus and Schurrle during the chain of transfers.

You serious

Cabaye < Marchisio
Hazard > 16.5m
Ben Arfa < Dzogaev

Marchiso > Cabaye
Hazard>16.5m
Dzogaev>Arfa

IMO

onlytreblewinners wrote:You serious

Cabaye < Marchisio
Hazard > 16.5m
Ben Arfa < Dzogaev

But Hazard >>> £16.5m when it comes to value (which is all you can compare to cash). Cabaye = Marchisio (very different types of player).

I don't think the gap between Ben Arfa and Dzagoev is much. Certainly not as big as the one between Hazard and £16.5m

But as a partnership;

Reus and Schurrle > Hazard and Dzagoev/cash and Dzagoev

Reus, Schurrle and Marchisio

v

Hazard, Cabaye and Ben Arfa

??

Wow you let Reus go?

You got mugged like you're walking through Moss Side.

I got rid of Marchisio because he did not have the best of Euros, and I think Arteta and Cabaye will work better in a midfield together.

Frankly, I think I got the best deal when I did that Hazard transfer with Trebs

TwisT wrote:I got rid of Marchisio because he did not have the best of Euros, and I think Arteta and Cabaye will work better in a midfield together.

Frankly, I think I got the best deal when I did that Hazard transfer with Trebs

Him and Cabaye are very different players. In fairness to Mouse, he has Carrick who is similar to Cabaye, like when you had Vidal and Marchisio together who are also similar. Really you need a bit of both.

BigFellasAfro wrote:Reus, Schurrle and Marchisio

v

Hazard, Cabaye and Ben Arfa

??

Actually it was Reus + Schurrle + Marchisio = Hazard + Cabaye + Ben Arfa + £4m

4m makes no diff IMO

Well, the 4m is irrelevant.

I still believe overall I got a very good deal. As soon as I sign Hazard, he's over-rated and going to flop in the premier league, but as soon as I sell him, he's an amazing winger.

Yeah I agree there trebs.....swings and roundabouts. And the 4m is not really irrelevant to me when I used it for TP's.

Hazard is still a big risk for whoever has him. I still think he'll end up a bench player for Chelsea next season

But you are comparing him to £16.5m. In terms of market value for a lawyer, he is >>> £16.5m

onlytreblewinners wrote:Well, the 4m is irrelevant.

I still believe overall I got a very good deal. As soon as I sign Hazard, he's over-rated and going to flop in the premier league, but as soon as I sell him, he's an amazing winger.

Thats the league for you, I've done it to others and I'm sure you've done it yourself.

Fact with Hazard is that he is not yet a £30m+ player.

He has the potential and to be, but as yet he has only performed as a big fish in a small pond.

For every success to come from the French leagues (cabaye etc), there's been highly rated players who have not performed in the Premier League. Gervinho was rated higher than Hazard in the season before he left Lille

Ok then Afro, cards on the table. Would you rather have Hazard and take a chance, or have an established RW in the PL at the moment? Like a Lennon or a Walcott

Valencia?

What I've noticed with players outside of England is some people will only see them at International or CL matches and if they've played well they'll be rating them highly until the next time they see them play which could be 6 months. Wheras in the Prem players will be rated not rated every game match because people see them more often.

It can work for or against you when buying a talented player from abroad because people don't know much about him they'll stick to what they seen until they see him again even though the player could be play below average.

I remember when Rooney was going through a poor spell and someone in one of my leagues tried to sell him for cut price. If that was Villa who was playing poor or Eto'o they wouldn't dream of selling him because they don't see him day to day unless Villa was injured long term like he is now which has made people think twice before they buy him.

That's true Viva, I remember selling Rooney for 20m + Agbonlahor, using the money to get Eto'o. Agbonlahor was having a massive breakthrough and looking amazing at the time.

TwisT wrote:Ok then Afro, cards on the table. Would you rather have Hazard and take a chance, or have an established RW in the PL at the moment? Like a Lennon or a Walcott

If I had Hazard, I would have wanted him to stay in France. His stock is high and if he carried on playing in France, it would continue to be high. Now he is coming to England, it raises the risk of him not making it.

In terms of Hazard v Lennon or Walcott, I would still go for Hazard. He is far enough ahead of those two that even with the risk, he is still rated higher. Even if he completely flopped it will probably take at least a season on here before his rating was down with Lennon and Walcott

Valencia v Hazard would be close for me, and if my signing either was on the TM.com value, I would go for Valencia as he is cheaper.