Cockerill slags off London Irish

by Portnoy Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:54 am

http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/story/166249.html

Richard Cockerill has kick-started the Aviva Premiership war of words after he made a not so subtle dig at their rivals London Irish.

Leicester have recruited two players from the Exiles in the close season with both Dan Bowden and Adam Thompstone arriving at the Tigers and with the club starting pre-season training this week, Cockerill has claimed that it will take time for Bowden to adjust to his new club.

"Dan Bowden has been doing some rehab work for us and it has been a shock to the system for him," Cockerill told the Leicester Mercury. "He has to turn up in the right kit and be in the right place at the right time. For some clubs, that is not the norm, but for us, all of the bits have to be in the right place.

"Attention to detail is important and there are things like time-keeping, dress code or tidying up after yourself that are equally as important to the way we work. When you add them all together, they are things that any good organisation is built on.

"Whether that is cleaning your plates up after you have eaten your food or opening doors for members of staff, all of those bits are important and make this club what it is."

A culture shock when going to WR?
Maybe it sort of explains why so many ex-Tigers fade away.

by caoimhincentre Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:04 am

another fantastic article to highlight why tigers are better than any other club.

Well done sir!

by **Notch** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:45 am

caoimhin

On a serious note, there is a reason why the Tigers have been so successful. There's also a reason why some dislike them. This post encompasses both reasons. Right... time to sit back and wait for the fireworks.

by Portnoy Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:53 am

I reckon that the Tigers' laundry lady off the TV rugby Aviva ads will tell Bowden and Thompstone to bugger off until they learn some respect.

And they'd have to wash their own kit

WR is no place for prima donnas.

by caoimhincentre Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:56 am

Portnoy wrote:I reckon that the Tigers' laundry lady off the TV rugby Aviva ads will tell Bowden and Thompstone to bugger off until they learn some respect.

And they'd have to wash their own kit

WR is no place for prima donnas.

see even their laundry ladies are better than the rest. Leicester jerseys...the cleanest in the Jeff.

Actually that can be your next article

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:57 am

Hang on this is the same Tigers that were thinking of signing Cipriani ?

by formerly known as Sam Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:01 pm

I'd have paid good money to see Cipriani on his first day at Welford Rd. Cockerill would probably have literally beaten him into shape. He'd have become the best 15 in the AP in no time at all.

by Portnoy Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:02 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Hang on this is the same Tigers that were thinking of signing Cipriani ?

Yep. Both he and and Henson need some boot camp.

by formerly known as Sam Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:08 pm

They tried to sign Henson and Wilkinson many years back when they were both in their prime. I'm certain both would have had more successful careers had they come to Tigers. Wilko would have stayed fitter for longer because of the protection of the Tigers pack and rotation options. Henson would have been put on the straight and narrow and the 'celebrity' image thing would have been knocked straight out of him early on.

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:11 pm

All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

by Portnoy Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:20 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:21 pm

Portnoy wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.

Please expand further, Portnoy?

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:23 pm

Portnoy wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.

A club with a dubious future. Please do enlighten me Portnoy. Is that due to our online ticketing purchasing system not meeting your high standards or something else that we (and nobody else for that matter) do as well as Leicester.

by HammerofThunor Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:28 pm

I know this is a rather poor article but where exactly does Cockerill "slag off" Irish? He says they have a different culture a Leicester than he's used to but that's all. Doesn't even says it's a 'better' culture, just that it is important to the club.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:31 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:They tried to sign Henson and Wilkinson many years back when they were both in their prime. I'm certain both would have had more successful careers had they come to Tigers. Wilko would have stayed fitter for longer because of the protection of the Tigers pack and rotation options. Henson would have been put on the straight and narrow and the 'celebrity' image thing would have been knocked straight out of him early on.

I doubt that unless they were looking at Henson before he put in that tackle and slotted that kick in '05, or even back before that when he refused to play for the full welsh team and played in the under 20s because he wanted to start at fly half?

by Portnoy Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:33 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Portnoy wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.
Please expand further, Portnoy?

As if you needed further information As,
There is no Wasps news on its insolvency issues whilst Oxford Welsh quote Saracens, LI and Wasps (as well as Sale) a reason to contest their promotion demands. And apparently even if they lose, Oxford will challenge the outcome in the courts.

Meanwhile Newcastle sit lonely in the wings innocent and totally compromised.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:37 pm

Portnoy wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Portnoy wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.
Please expand further, Portnoy?

As if you needed further information As,
There is no Wasps news on its insolvency issues whilst Oxford Welsh quote Saracens, LI and Wasps (as well as Sale) a reason to contest their promotion demands. And apparently even if they lose, Oxford will challenge the outcome in the courts.

Meanwhile Newcastle sit lonely in the wings innocent and totally compromised.

The otherway of looking at it is that Newcastle are in a fortunate position, they should have been relegated, and if Britsol (were tehy the only side who met all requirements) had won the Championship, they would have been. So Newcastle may be having a bit of a twitchy bum at the moment, but its more twitchy because they may manage to survive in a league they should have been relegated from than because of the whole of London ganging up on them.

by formerly known as Sam Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:39 pm

SS if he had signed then he probably would have played his preferred 10 position as Andy Goode was the starting 10 at the time. The celebrity ideal is not really tolerated at Tigers full stop and it is unlikely to ever be. Leicestershire is not the place to find the trendy nightclubs and paparazzi. Media and advertising deals are encouraged but if he started to talk to the crap mags about his love life he'd have found himself in a room with some angry members of the team management.

The story of Austin's first training session at Tigers is famous, Cockers punched him the second he got the ball in a touch session and told him they don't stand for those who don't pull their weight. That ethos is carefully maintained by the sounds of it and Gav would have adapted or endured a miserable season before being offloaded.

by **LondonTiger** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:40 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:They tried to sign Henson and Wilkinson many years back when they were both in their prime. I'm certain both would have had more successful careers had they come to Tigers. Wilko would have stayed fitter for longer because of the protection of the Tigers pack and rotation options. Henson would have been put on the straight and narrow and the 'celebrity' image thing would have been knocked straight out of him early on.

I doubt that unless they were looking at Henson before he put in that tackle and slotted that kick in '05, or even back before that when he refused to play for the full welsh team and played in the under 20s because he wanted to start at fly half?

Pretty sure it was around the time when Henson smacked Moreno.

by HammerofThunor Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:41 pm

But why do London Irish have a dubious future?

And also why does the fact several clubs abide by the rules (they weren't set at the time of their entry therefore they don't apply) have anything to do with them being at fault for Welsh's appeal?

And finally, if the basis of the appeal was that it was a breach of their human rights not to be in a league the awesomest Leicester Tigers, would that mean Tigers are hanging Falcons out to dry?

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:42 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:They tried to sign Henson and Wilkinson many years back when they were both in their prime. I'm certain both would have had more successful careers had they come to Tigers. Wilko would have stayed fitter for longer because of the protection of the Tigers pack and rotation options. Henson would have been put on the straight and narrow and the 'celebrity' image thing would have been knocked straight out of him early on.

I doubt that unless they were looking at Henson before he put in that tackle and slotted that kick in '05, or even back before that when he refused to play for the full welsh team and played in the under 20s because he wanted to start at fly half?

Pretty sure it was around the time when Henson smacked Moreno.

Ah so he would have fitted in after all!!!

by Portnoy Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:43 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:But why do London Irish have a dubious future?

And also why does the fact several clubs abide by the rules (they weren't set at the time of their entry therefore they don't apply) have anything to do with them being at fault for Welsh's appeal?

And finally, if the basis of the appeal was that it was a breach of their human rights not to be in a league the awesomest Leicester Tigers, would that mean Tigers are hanging Falcons out to dry?

Wasps, Thunor.

by **LondonTiger** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:44 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:And finally, if the basis of the appeal was that it was a breach of their human rights not to be in a league the awesomest Leicester Tigers, would that mean Tigers are hanging Falcons out to dry?

finally, the truth. This is of course all a dastardly plot by tigers to ensure they keep attracting the best talent from Newcastle.

by **LondonTiger** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:45 pm

Portnoy wrote:
HammerofThunor wrote:But why do London Irish have a dubious future?

Wasps, Thunor.

So why say Pete supports a club with a dubious future?

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:46 pm

Since when has signing for Tigers prolonged the careers of England internationals? Its usually a death sentence

by **LondonTiger** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:49 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:Pretty sure it was around the time when Henson smacked Moreno.

Ah so he would have fitted in after all!!!

Yup

by HammerofThunor Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:51 pm

Portnoy wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.

Ozzy is a London Irish supportor so what gibberish are you talking now. Or are all non-Tigers supportors considered the same these days?

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:52 pm

Portnoy wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Portnoy wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.
Please expand further, Portnoy?

As if you needed further information As,
There is no Wasps news on its insolvency issues whilst Oxford Welsh quote Saracens, LI and Wasps (as well as Sale) a reason to contest their promotion demands. And apparently even if they lose, Oxford will challenge the outcome in the courts.

Meanwhile Newcastle sit lonely in the wings innocent and totally compromised.

So you are using the fact that Welsh will rely on the fact that Irish, Sarries, Wasps and Sale play in football grounds without primacy of tenure as the basis of their appeal as some sort of reason to suggest that London sides are ganging up on Newcastle and for some reason Irish have a dubious future.

Portnoy, you know that having met you in the real world I like you as a person, but you do spout some b o l l i x on here mate.

by **LondonTiger** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:52 pm

HoT - you either support the best, or you support the rest Whistle

by Geordie Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:53 pm

Woodward employed the famous "Lombardi Time" for training etc....whereby if 7.30 am wasted then that was the time the players were changed and actually on the pitch ready to go..and if they werent then they were disciplined.....and its something i agree with.

As for Newcastle...we all know we should be relegated...however it is hardly fair to keep us in limbo...not knowing which league we will be in....because some london welsh team has thrown his dummy out of the pram.

They ultimately knoew the reulgations before the season started...which suddenly compain now because they had a decent season.

by HammerofThunor Wed 27 Jun 2012, 12:55 pm

LondonTiger wrote:HoT - you either support the best, or you support the rest

Hey, I support all the English clubs (by support I mean I watch them on tele and have a few shirts, even been to watch Tigers a couple of times when visiting my brother), even Sarries.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed 27 Jun 2012, 1:04 pm

Portnoy wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Portnoy wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.
Please expand further, Portnoy?

As if you needed further information As,
There is no Wasps news on its insolvency issues whilst Oxford Welsh quote Saracens, LI and Wasps (as well as Sale) a reason to contest their promotion demands. And apparently even if they lose, Oxford will challenge the outcome in the courts.

Meanwhile Newcastle sit lonely in the wings innocent and totally compromised.

That I know, but i still don't get why two London sides are hanging Newcastle out to dry? I'm a big fan of your imagination, Portnoy, but this seems like one helluva leap even for you?

by Guest Wed 27 Jun 2012, 1:15 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Portnoy wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Portnoy wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:All hail the might Tiiiigggee.............. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

That a cheap and easy comment from a supporter of a club with a dubious future. Detective enquires would reveal that Newcastle Falcons are being hung out to dry by two London sides.
Please expand further, Portnoy?

As if you needed further information As,
There is no Wasps news on its insolvency issues whilst Oxford Welsh quote Saracens, LI and Wasps (as well as Sale) a reason to contest their promotion demands. And apparently even if they lose, Oxford will challenge the outcome in the courts.

Meanwhile Newcastle sit lonely in the wings innocent and totally compromised.
That I know, but i still don't get why two London sides are hanging Newcastle out to dry? I'm a big fan of your imagination, Portnoy, but this seems like one helluva leap even for you?

If anyone is hanging the Falcons out to dry, then surely its the club that keeps poaching all their players? Parling, Flood, Young, Brookes, Tait.......

by formerly known as Sam Wed 27 Jun 2012, 1:23 pm

If anyone is hanging the Falcons out to dry, then surely its the club that keeps poaching all their players? Parling, Flood Young, Brookes, Tait.......

We didn't poach Tait from the Falcons we got him in from Sale whilst seriously injured and have spent time and money getting his shoulder in the right shape to be able to play. We did poach Woods, however, Wood and Flood were both put up for sale by the club as part of their anti-callup stance at the time, Tait was also put up for sale and signed by Sale at the same time.

by yappysnap Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:29 pm

Micky Young was another poor lamb snatched from the flock

by formerly known as Sam Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:57 pm

We did give them Grindal a few seasons back, that's a fair (albeit delayed) exchange of scrum halfs Yappy.

by **profitius** Wed 27 Jun 2012, 7:10 pm

Lets face it, everyone slags off London Irish! Very Happy

by Geordie Wed 27 Jun 2012, 7:50 pm

I'd hardly blame Leicester for our policy of transfer listing anyone with remote chances of gaining a Cap......

Thankfully that whole useless sack of cr&p board and management have departed......

To have a go at the Falcons for this situation is small minded and harsh. It hardly our fault now is it!!!!!

It is however making me dislike london welsh intensely...not for sour graps...just that they would appear to be doing this out of spite...not because of the rugby...

by yappysnap Wed 27 Jun 2012, 9:29 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:We did give them Grindal a few seasons back, that's a fair (albeit delayed) exchange of scrum halfs Yappy.

by Irish Londoner Wed 27 Jun 2012, 11:12 pm

It's not about the spite - it's about the money and probably an ego battle, the London Welsh chairman sees himself as a knight in shining armour defending the Championship clubs from the nasty men at PRL.
In a classic case of "be careful what you wish for" would a season in the sun for LW, assuming it's followed by relegation and the return of the Falcons, be the cue for the PRL to bring in say Leeds, Bristol and Cornwall to create a "national league", then haul up the drawbridge and turn the Avivia into a closed shop ?

by ScarletSpiderman Thu 28 Jun 2012, 9:32 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:I'd hardly blame Leicester for our policy of transfer listing anyone with remote chances of gaining a Cap......

Thankfully that whole useless sack of cr&p board and management have departed......

To have a go at the Falcons for this situation is small minded and harsh. It hardly our fault now is it!!!!!

It is however making me dislike london welsh intensely...not for sour graps...just that they would appear to be doing this out of spite...not because of the rugby...

Two things.

-Finishing bottom of the league is the Falcons fault. However I can see where you are coming from with regards the whole unceratinty not being down to you. That said I am starting to get tired of hearing London Welsh getting slated for leaving the Falcon in this position of uncertainty. After all is the faint chance of staying up better than being relegated?

-London Welsh are arguing the case on the grounds of rugby and not spite. I don't think that London Welsh really give two hoots whether it is Newcastle, London Wasps, Leicester or any other Jeff side that will have to take relegation in order for them to be promoted. As far as London Welsh see it they have earnt the right to be promoted through the channels that are in place, and as such are being treated unfairly themselves, especially when there are sides in the Jeff who wouldn't be able to get into it if they had to match the same criteria.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 28 Jun 2012, 9:55 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I'd hardly blame Leicester for our policy of transfer listing anyone with remote chances of gaining a Cap......

Thankfully that whole useless sack of cr&p board and management have departed......

To have a go at the Falcons for this situation is small minded and harsh. It hardly our fault now is it!!!!!

It is however making me dislike london welsh intensely...not for sour graps...just that they would appear to be doing this out of spite...not because of the rugby...

Two things.

-Finishing bottom of the league is the Falcons fault. However I can see where you are coming from with regards the whole unceratinty not being down to you. That said I am starting to get tired of hearing London Welsh getting slated for leaving the Falcon in this position of uncertainty. After all is the faint chance of staying up better than being relegated?

-London Welsh are arguing the case on the grounds of rugby and not spite. I don't think that London Welsh really give two hoots whether it is Newcastle, London Wasps, Leicester or any other Jeff side that will have to take relegation in order for them to be promoted. As far as London Welsh see it they have earnt the right to be promoted through the channels that are in place, and as such are being treated unfairly themselves, especially when there are sides in the Jeff who wouldn't be able to get into it if they had to match the same criteria. have spotted a chance to extort some cash from the RFU to the long term detriment on the lower tier professional game in this country and the reputation of the game, whilst trying to cover up for their own officials incompetence.

Fixed that for you

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 28 Jun 2012, 9:57 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I'd hardly blame Leicester for our policy of transfer listing anyone with remote chances of gaining a Cap......

Thankfully that whole useless sack of cr&p board and management have departed......

To have a go at the Falcons for this situation is small minded and harsh. It hardly our fault now is it!!!!!

It is however making me dislike london welsh intensely...not for sour graps...just that they would appear to be doing this out of spite...not because of the rugby...

Two things.

-Finishing bottom of the league is the Falcons fault. However I can see where you are coming from with regards the whole unceratinty not being down to you. That said I am starting to get tired of hearing London Welsh getting slated for leaving the Falcon in this position of uncertainty. After all is the faint chance of staying up better than being relegated?

-London Welsh are arguing the case on the grounds of ~~rugby~~money and not spite. I don't think that London Welsh really give two hoots whether it is Newcastle, London Wasps, Leicester or any other Jeff side that will have to take relegation in order for them to be promoted. As far as London Welsh see it they have earnt the right to be promoted through the channels that are in place, and as such are being treated unfairly themselves, especially when there are sides in the Jeff who wouldn't be able to get into it if they had to match the same criteria. have spotted a chance to extort some cash from the RFU to the long term detriment on the lower tier professional game in this country and the reputation of the game, whilst trying to cover up for their own officials incompetence.

Fixed that for you

Fixed PSW's fix for you

PS not saying that I blame them either, nor that i wouldn't do the same in their position!

by Geordie Thu 28 Jun 2012, 10:13 am

Class guys...

by formerly known as Sam Thu 28 Jun 2012, 10:13 am

It's not about the spite - it's about the money and probably an ego battle, the London Welsh chairman sees himself as a knight in shining armour defending the Championship clubs from the nasty men at PRL.

And yet it is the RFU that dreamt up these rules and enforces them. The RFU also take the fines off of the clubs already in the AP that don't meet the criteria. I'm not sure the PRL have an official stance on it seeing as the different clubs have made very different comments on the prospect of LW's promotion.

by ScarletSpiderman Thu 28 Jun 2012, 10:27 am

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I'd hardly blame Leicester for our policy of transfer listing anyone with remote chances of gaining a Cap......

Thankfully that whole useless sack of cr&p board and management have departed......

To have a go at the Falcons for this situation is small minded and harsh. It hardly our fault now is it!!!!!

It is however making me dislike london welsh intensely...not for sour graps...just that they would appear to be doing this out of spite...not because of the rugby...

Two things.

-Finishing bottom of the league is the Falcons fault. However I can see where you are coming from with regards the whole unceratinty not being down to you. That said I am starting to get tired of hearing London Welsh getting slated for leaving the Falcon in this position of uncertainty. After all is the faint chance of staying up better than being relegated?

-London Welsh are arguing the case on the grounds of ~~rugby~~money and not spite. I don't think that London Welsh really give two hoots whether it is Newcastle, London Wasps, Leicester or any other Jeff side that will have to take relegation in order for them to be promoted. As far as London Welsh see it they have earnt the right to be promoted through the channels that are in place, and as such are being treated unfairly themselves, especially when there are sides in the Jeff who wouldn't be able to get into it if they had to match the same criteria. have spotted a chance to extort some cash from the RFU to the long term detriment on the lower tier professional game in this country and the reputation of the game, whilst trying to cover up for their own officials incompetence.

Fixed that for you
Fixed PSW's fix for you

PS not saying that I blame them either, nor that i wouldn't do the same in their position!

See that is the thing I don't get is that London Welsh are being made out to be self-serving and not care about what happens to the other clubs, yet lets face it if the boot were on the other foot, there would be plenty of Newcatle fans that would be kicking and screaming abouthe RFU trying to shaft them and keep them down etc etc.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 28 Jun 2012, 10:37 am

Well thats a side issue anyway. i get a bit over harsh on LW simply because the main stream, media has spun such a simple story and most people swallow the easy answer as is so often the case.

End of the day Newcastle have been relegation fodder for years now and its a damn miracle it hasnt happened before. They havent done anything to suggest they can turn that around and have become deadwood.

Chop the Jeff to 10 and be done with it.
Then we can have a court room battle about who is sufficiently sh1t to get relegated.like they have in wales.

Sigh. Litigation in these matters helps noone. PRL is much maligned but at least the "one for all" ethos has helped avoid this sort of thing till now and stopped the biggest clubs being as self serving as they would be without it. Obviously its a problem if you arent in the gang though, but Exeter have shown its quite possible to overcome that through prudence.

by **LondonTiger** Thu 28 Jun 2012, 11:05 am

Cornish Pirates are spending their money on facilities, building a sutainable club.

London Welsh bought in some players instead.

by formerly known as Sam Thu 28 Jun 2012, 11:14 am

I feel for the Cornish Pirates as the Cornish County Council just refuse to back them in their cause for a new stadium. That really is what is holding them back.

by ScarletSpiderman Thu 28 Jun 2012, 11:24 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:I feel for the Cornish Pirates as the Cornish County Council just refuse to back them in their cause for a new stadium. That really is what is holding them back.

That is a real kick in the teeth. I seem to remember a few seasons ago the Pirates looking into whether they could enter the celtic league (as it was then)

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