Chisora falls out with his trainer

It appears they came to blows, or rather Don Charles went for Chisora after he said something to him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2165925/Dereck-Chisora-hit-coach-Don-Charles-David-Haye-fight.html

This will play right into Haye's hands. A trainer (potentially) walking out 2 weeks before the fight should be a major setback for Chisora, and he's unhinged at the best of times without this.

This does all kind of hint at why the BBBoC banned the guy, he is clearly not playing with a full deck. Has been an accident waiting to happen for an age, but not to worry Dyer will be at the fight, he ain't going to stand for any nonsense on his manor.

what the hell is it on about regarding the headgear crap?

No doubt Chisora will have spoken to Charles like he was his servant and not his trainer and Charles, being another "street" guy will have felt "dissed" so he will have "manned up" and "taken it" to Chisora "Gangsta-style"

Think a lot of these guys whinging about lack of respect need to take a long hard look at themselves and ask whether or not this respect has actually been earned or if they think the just need it (like trainers or a new mobile phone)

You get me, d'ough????????????

They are about as articulate as a lorry those two.

On the plus side this is the first fight I can ever remember where I don't want either fighter to win, after 20 odd years of watching the sport is always nice to have new experiences.

Chisora man! Bread and butter that one

rowley wrote:On the plus side this is the first fight I can ever remember where I don't want either fighter to win, after 20 odd years of watching the sport is always nice to have new experiences.

Come now, there's been plenty of fights like that. Recently there was Mayweather/Mosley. Didn't want Floyd to win as it meant another eight months of not fighting Manny but hearing about how he wanted it etc etc etc and I didn't want Mosley to win as...well, who wanted to see Mosley fighting on? (You could also swap Mayweather for Manny).

Vitali and Wlad must be lovng all this cos when Haye wins, they can refuse to entertain the idea of a fight with him as his victory over Chisora will have been tainted by the "disruption to his preparations". They will order them to have a rematch (they're THAT powerful) with the winner being granted the honour of being placed somewhere quite low down on a very short list of people that the K's might give consideration to the possibility of maybe possibly someday perhaps thinking about fighting.

OK Dave, will rephrase it as first time I have actively wanted both fighters to lose.

I don't care who wins but will watch it.

I will watch and love it!

If Haye dispatches Chisora inside the distance, many will (rightly or wrongly) claim Haye has a legitimate right to call out Vitali. They will have a common opponent and comparisons will be made (despite the huge differences in styles etc).

No doubt, if Viali goes ahead and retires on the high of fighting whoever he's fighting, there will be shouts of "chicken" "coward" "ducker" etc from Haye's corner and you will either get Vitali agreeing to fight Haye to shut him up or you will get Wlad involved wanting to defend the family honour again. haye gets what he wants and maybe gets what he deserves (title shot/bad beating depending on your opinion)

Maybe no-one fights Haye and Haye goes of into the sunset convinced he has been badly done to.

Maybe Haye sticks around, earns a legitimate shot at Wlad, aquits himself admirably and people have to rethink their opinion of him.

Maybe Chisora wins, gets a shot at Wlad, aquits himsef admirably and people have to rethink their opinion of him.

Maybe Chisora wins, goes slightly mad and ends up in prison.

Maybe it's all a bad dream and we will wake up soon.

Chisora really is a couple of Tiger Tokens short of a toaster.

What's the odds on this fight ending unsatisfactorily with a DQ for Dereck? I can see him and Haye getting into a clinch and there being biting, knees & low blows. Maybe he'll even produce a "shootah". Though quite how he'll use it with gloves on remains to be seen.

I work close to a drop-in centre for homeless people, and there's a couple of look-a-likes who are regulars there. Amusingly they look like a Down-and-out Danny Dyer and a Destitute David Haye... What price a "bum-fight" on PPV?

All i know is with Chisora kicking out his trainer (who seems the only sane voice rattling around his head) my Haye KO bet looks better

F it, i hope Chisora pancakes Haye. There, i said it. I'm off the fence, and my bottom is happy.

Would be amazing to see it happen to be fair if he came out with a first round assault and tears Davids head off it would be rather incredible viewing.

He wont be afraid and he will certainly walk forward doing that Frazer type shuffle, but will it be enough?

Can't see it, think Haye's just a bit too quick and slick and should be able to outsmart Chisora, to be fair I think my cat could outwit Dereck.

It's a shame; Del Boy's career is still only in its infancy and I'm already sick to the back teeth of him. I wonder what fracas he has planned in order to secure himself another big(ish) fight once Haye beats him next month?

Lol, you have a cat alex? i love cats, and dogs. Cats are very good at outwitting though. so not exactly a slur on Chisora, but i see your point.

Has anyone actually read the story?

It was the trainer that attacked Dereck, who appears to be the innocent party here. But why let the facts get in the way of a bit of Chisora bashing, eh?

Guys,

You are over looking one major component here..................... Davids little toe.

For me, that could be the deciding factor in this fight. Hopefully they both throw simultaneous concussive blows and both get KTFO.

Animals tarnishing the name of 'boxing' by behaving like neanderthals.

Union Cane wrote:Has anyone actually read the story?

It was the trainer that attacked Dereck, who appears to be the innocent party here. But why let the facts get in the way of a bit of Chisora bashing, eh?

Union Union Union

You are saying "read the article" for the facts. READ A BRITISH TABLOID FOR FACTS????!!!!!!!

Let's go by the process of probability

In all probabilty Chisora would have done something incredibly insulting that cause his usually sane trainer to attack him.

Charles' own words : "He asked me to take his head gear off and I physically attacked him."

Although he also said "I am not a nutter." which is clearly not true.

Dereck can't take off his own headgear whilst wearing gloves, so he asked the trainer to help him, which is what he is there for (and is handsomely rewarded for I should imagine) and he responds by attacking Dereck?

Good riddance to a clearly unstable man. If he can't cope with a little bit of language then he's in the wrong game.

Charles also said there was things that went on he won't mention

What I got from the gorundbreaking "Behind the Ropes" was that one felt disrspected and reacted inappropriatley. Gym full of idiots watching on, fighter with history of idotic acts, what could go wrong

you can never trust the daily mail.

however chisoras trainer was arguably more involved in the brawl the derek was, now this. maybe charles is a bad influence on him.

on a side note anybody notice this headline?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2165607/Tyson-Fury-falsely-arrested-murder-robbery-Holland.html

you never can be to sure with the pikeys

Union you are talking guff, Derek would have gone looking for it, he has form man.

Don't ban me.

probably, it does saying that he has "turned into a athlete as opposed to a puncher"

88Chris05 wrote:It's a shame; Del Boy's career is still only in its infancy and I'm already sick to the back teeth of him. I wonder what fracas he has planned in order to secure himself another big(ish) fight once Haye beats him next month?

If he causes another fracas, all authorities will come down on him like a ton of bricks. His trainer looked a bit of an idiot if truth be told.

"He asked me to take his head gear off and I physically attacked him."

You see Dereck, that is an example of when to use the adverb physically without sounding like a berk.

Publicity stunt.

Turns out they had a brief spat and quickly made up before the story even broke.

Tune in to Haye/Chisora : Beyond The Ropes next week for more thrilling overblown propaganda.

Chisora has likened his disagreed with Charles to the one Fergie had with Beckham (Fergie allegedly kicked a boot which hit Beckham in the face).

I agree that was also a minor spat that was blown out of proportion but as I recall, Beckham was also shipped off to Real Madrid shortly afterwards.

Il Gialloblu wrote:"He asked me to take his head gear off and I physically attacked him."

You see Dereck, that is an example of when to use the adverb physically without sounding like a berk.

"I will physically burn him!"

..still makes me chuckle

Union Cane wrote:Publicity stunt.

Turns out they had a brief spat and quickly made up before the story even broke.

Tune in to Haye/Chisora : Beyond The Ropes next week for more thrilling overblown propaganda.

To think we bickered over this nonsense!!! Clear publicity stunt

Chisora has been involved in a cheap publicity stunt? What is the world coming to.

Don Charles always comes across well in interviews and seems a sane enough guy and a calming influence as much as one can be for Chisora.