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Post by bogbrush Tue 03 Jul 2012, 10:24 pm

Now it's really business time.

The matches have been previewed a done the order of play is out. Federer will be relieved to be on Centre and hoping for rain and a covered court. Murray too, as both stand to benefit if they win and their opponents have to play Thursday. I have no idea what the forecast is though.
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 03 Jul 2012, 10:32 pm

90% chance of precipitation tomorrow, and 80% on thursday but only light rain.

i honestly don't believe murray will have learnt how to beat ferrer in 5 sets.

apart from 1 bad set against Roddick he has been in fine fettle. Bubbly

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Post by barrystar Tue 03 Jul 2012, 10:33 pm

The forecast is patchy - set to be alternately overcast and raining during the day with dry periods around 1pm and 4pm.

I would not be surprised if they put two singles matches on CC and try to make up for lost time if the second No. 1 match can't get on. It is Djoko's turn on No. 1 tomorrow, so expect him to be the last to get a show on CC after Monday's rigidity.

They must be having nightmares about the doubles matches that need to be played.

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Post by bogbrush Tue 03 Jul 2012, 10:38 pm

So the Federer & Murray matches are certain to finish, with the Tsonga one likely to get a help if there's rain. Meanwhile Djokovic would never transfer to CC.

Given the current situation Fed needs all the help he can get, so here's hoping Nole has to play a mega 5 setter on Thursday! (some hope!).

Naughty I know, but anyway I only give Fed a 25% chance of making the semi unless he has a miracle cure.
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Post by laverfan Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:05 pm

bogbrush wrote:..., but anyway I only give Fed a 25% chance of making the semi unless he has a miracle cure.

Oh Ye! Of little faith. Run

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Post by bogbrush Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:08 pm

laverfan wrote:
bogbrush wrote:..., but anyway I only give Fed a 25% chance of making the semi unless he has a miracle cure.

Oh Ye! Of little faith. Run
I have faith in TMF, but not to enable an overnight cure for a dodgy back. Seen him dragged down by this before. mad
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Post by Danny_1982 Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:15 pm

I will be interested to see how Federer is moving tomorrow. He seemed quite optimistic that it would be fine by tomorrow. If he's right, not only do I think he'll win in straights tomorrow, but I think he'll give Novak a very tough match.

Murray Ferrer is an interesting one. On paper, Murray does everything better. Bigger serve, better return, more power, better mover (just), and more imagination. But Ferrer has an incredible will and has been playing superbly.

I'm a bit worried about Ferer's form, but I edge it to Murray. The H2H may be 5-5 but 4 of the Ferrer wins are on clay where Ferrer moves like a dream and Murray doesn't move anywhere near as well as on hard and grass.

I too rather selfishly hope that tomorrow is none stop rain, and I hope the other 2 quarters roll over to Thursday. I'm looking forward to it though. Despite a generally disappointing last round compared to the rest of it, it's still been the most interesting slam in years in my opinion.


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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:17 pm

i seriously wouldn't put his lack of enthusiasm for the last 2 matches on a back injury, to me it seems like a virus. if it was his back he would be grimacing atleast a few times.

Federer works out as often as olympic trained athletes.
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Post by Seifer Almasy Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:24 pm

laverfan wrote:
bogbrush wrote:..., but anyway I only give Fed a 25% chance of making the semi unless he has a miracle cure.

Oh Ye! Of little faith. Run

I think 25% is a ridiculous assessment of how Fed has played even with the bad back. All indications are a Federer win.

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Post by bogbrush Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:27 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:i seriously wouldn't put his lack of enthusiasm for the last 2 matches on a back injury, to me it seems like a virus. if it was his back he would be grimacing atleast a few times.

Federer works out as often as olympic trained athletes.
Really? That's a new one on me.
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Post by bogbrush Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:27 pm

Seifer Almasy wrote:
laverfan wrote:
bogbrush wrote:..., but anyway I only give Fed a 25% chance of making the semi unless he has a miracle cure.

Oh Ye! Of little faith. Run

I think 25% is a ridiculous assessment of how Fed has played even with the bad back. All indications are a Federer win.
Didn't you watch how awful Malisse was? He threw it.
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:32 pm

bogbrush wrote:
Josiah Maiestas wrote:i seriously wouldn't put his lack of enthusiasm for the last 2 matches on a back injury, to me it seems like a virus. if it was his back he would be grimacing atleast a few times.

Federer works out as often as olympic trained athletes.
Really? That's a new one on me.
didn't you notice how groggy he was?

looked like he was about to eject his breakfast.
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:35 pm

malisse was awful beyond words.

Couldn't control a simple mid court shot for the last 2 sets.
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Post by Seifer Almasy Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:44 pm

bogbrush wrote:
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bogbrush wrote:..., but anyway I only give Fed a 25% chance of making the semi unless he has a miracle cure.

Oh Ye! Of little faith. Run

I think 25% is a ridiculous assessment of how Fed has played even with the bad back. All indications are a Federer win.
Didn't you watch how awful Malisse was? He threw it.

I did, and I also watched Federer make some amazing shots (loads of drop shot winners) with a bad back and take one of the sets 6-1. It wasn't great but you make it sound like Federer was standing still the entire match.

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Post by bogbrush Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:56 pm

I'd be happy to share your view but when Malisee put the ball any distance to the forehand he actually did leave many.

Hope I'm wrong tomorrow.
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Post by Danny_1982 Tue 03 Jul 2012, 11:59 pm

Bogbrush - I think he may get through tomorrow even if his back is no better.

But we will be able to judge from his movement if he can realistically challenge Novak.

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Post by bogbrush Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:00 am

You might be right, though Youzhny is no Malisse.
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Post by Seifer Almasy Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:14 am

The thing that gives me hope is Federer was still executing some great shots even with that back which is bound to be a little better tomorrow if anything, plus he is in Youzhny's head... if you are 13-0 down H2H, you go into the match already beaten...


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Post by laverfan Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:16 am

Youzhny is a tough cookie, irrespective of the h2h. Sad

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Post by Seifer Almasy Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:17 am

Tomorrow comes 14-0.

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Post by Seifer Almasy Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:21 am

I am surprised that Djok is on court 1 as defending champ and Fed on centre though! Although I guess money talks.


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Post by laverfan Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:22 am

Seifer Almasy wrote:Tomorrow comes 14-0.

Faith and confidence are two different things. Wink

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:23 am

Youzhny is a good geezer, just can't handle packed stadiums.

Top notch on court 12 or court 18, wouldn't bet on him on CC.
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Post by Seifer Almasy Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:24 am

I am not basing my prediction on either.. I am basing them on stone cold fact. Federer can beat Youzhny even at 70% and he is in his head, and he comes into this from Halle win and a 13-0 record. Youzhny has taken 3 sets off Federer in his career.

I dunno why people are so concerned. Federer is clear favourite and I bet the bookies think so too. We will see tomorrow... I expect more doomsdaying though even when Fed is serving for the match 2-0 up in sets.

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Post by laverfan Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:27 am

D-Ferrero, D-Harrison, D-Stepanek, D-Troicki - all on CC.

Court 1 is pretty good.



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Post by Seifer Almasy Wed 04 Jul 2012, 12:27 am

If you are all so confident of a fed loss, make some money. Bookies have Fed at 1/8 and Youz at 5-1.

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Post by laverfan Wed 04 Jul 2012, 1:04 am

Seifer Almasy wrote:If you are all so confident of a fed loss, make some money. Bookies have Fed at 1/8 and Youz at 5-1.

That is not the case. His recovery from back issues is important. Wink

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Post by luciusmann Wed 04 Jul 2012, 1:04 am

I'm more confident of a Fed loss to Djokovic, but I would like to see how Fed performs tomorrow first.

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Post by socal1976 Wed 04 Jul 2012, 2:05 am

Exactly, Danny a back injury is something I have had myself and if he was able to recover in the match and comeback and move well against Youzhny then he has a good shot of managing it. I think it benefits Fed to be on center so as you don't have a lot of play stoppages where you body goes cold over the course of the match. I agree it is too early to tell, most guys are carrying knocks, if Roger can move well against Youz he probably can work through the tournament physically. To early to tell, however he didn't play great ever agaisnt Malisse, if Malisse could have played more consistently and could hit his backhand up the line to open up court and move federer it would have been a different match. Malisse was pretty horrible during that match.

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Post by Guest Wed 04 Jul 2012, 8:57 am

bogbrush wrote:
Seifer Almasy wrote:
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bogbrush wrote:..., but anyway I only give Fed a 25% chance of making the semi unless he has a miracle cure.

Oh Ye! Of little faith. Run

I think 25% is a ridiculous assessment of how Fed has played even with the bad back. All indications are a Federer win.
Didn't you watch how awful Malisse was? He threw it.

Fanboys don't understand logic BB

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Post by Guest Wed 04 Jul 2012, 9:00 am

Youzhny has a sterling chance of winning this. Especially as it is a BO5. Though you can't help but give Federer the edge because Youzhny will have dips that will see him spray filth out of the court or into the net.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 04 Jul 2012, 9:01 am

Federer to win in 4 sets
Murray to win in 4 sets
Djokovic to win in 3 sets
Tsonga to win in 4 sets

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 04 Jul 2012, 10:14 am

I still feel Roger Federer will win through today in perhaps four sets (maybe even three if his back doesn't trouble him).

I would also think Murray will win through. Depends on how Murray approaches it as to the result, If he is largely aggressive and attacking, dictating the rallies he wins in three or four sets but a little too passive then it could be very close and far too passive then Ferrer wins.

Djokovic will win through in straight sets I reckon.

Tsonga/Kohlschreiber could be interesting but I reckon Tsonga will win in four.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 04 Jul 2012, 10:24 am

Kohli is very good these days I can see him upsetting Jo.

Ferrer can do to Murray what Murray does to so many others, irritate the hell out of him. I hope that one goes 5 sets, not because I like how either of them play as it makes me cringe, but because they are evenly matched.
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Post by socal1976 Wed 04 Jul 2012, 10:44 am

I can see Kohlshreiber beating Tsonga as well. He is playing really well and the surface suits his style. I think that is going to be a real tough match. I am predicting a 5 setter.

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Post by bogbrush Wed 04 Jul 2012, 10:46 am

socal1976 wrote:I can see Kohlshreiber beating Tsonga as well. He is playing really well and the surface suits his style. I think that is going to be a real tough match. I am predicting a 5 setter.
Yes, I just can't call this at all. If JWT is wasteful, as he often is, he may not get that far.
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Post by Guest Wed 04 Jul 2012, 10:55 am

The serve will dictate that match. If Kohlschreiber can serve about 65% I fancy him to take out Tsonga. He has the tools to punish the Tsonga 2nd serve too.

It will be a baseline bash fest though. Fish was a poor matchup to Tsonga and I felt if Fish had any miles under his belt going into that match he would've taken Tsonga out.

It is an intriguing match like the Djokovic and Mayer match. Mayer can get under the Djokovic's skin with his variation.

Both matches you feel if one plays dreadful that it will be one way traffic.

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Post by The Special Juan Wed 04 Jul 2012, 11:04 am

Federer to win in 3 sets

If the Fed turns up and plays decent he'll win. Nerves for Youzhny + 1st Wimby QF make show.

Murray to win in 4 sets

Murray has to serve well otherwise it will be a long afternoon (literally). I don't care how well Ferrer is playing. If Murray plays near his best, Ferrer doesn't come near him on a grass court. I like David though so hope it's not too bad on him.

Djokovic to win in 3 sets

Close sets but Novak to nick a break in each. With the rain scheduled he'll be eager to win it quickly and may end up going for shots. Could backfire but won't.

Tsonga to win in 4 sets or Kohlschreiber to win in 3

Depends how well Phil is playing and Tsonga's back injury is. I haven't seen Phil so I can't say but his results are looking good and the Nadal defeat hasn't affected him. All depends on whether Tsonga is injured or not. I'll be cheering on Phil.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 04 Jul 2012, 11:27 am

Sadly, I will miss most of the tennis today as I am working. Sad
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Post by carrieg4 Wed 04 Jul 2012, 11:34 am

CaledonianCraig wrote:Sadly, I will miss most of the tennis today as I am working. Sad

It's better on the nerves that way. It was quite relaxing watching on Iplayer in the early hours and knowing the result. Will be watching live today, not sure my nerves can take it Shocked

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Post by Guest Wed 04 Jul 2012, 11:41 am

I am hoping for a Fed 5 setter just because I can get home in time for the Murray match. Selfish I know Smile

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 04 Jul 2012, 11:48 am

carrieg4 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:Sadly, I will miss most of the tennis today as I am working. Sad

It's better on the nerves that way. It was quite relaxing watching on Iplayer in the early hours and knowing the result. Will be watching live today, not sure my nerves can take it Shocked

I'll resort to following the match on my various mobile phone apps.
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 04 Jul 2012, 11:51 am

I think today, Murray has to go out and play to win; he must not play to not lose, if you know what I mean. If he gets the first set, he should do it.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 04 Jul 2012, 11:53 am

The Special Juan wrote:I think today, Murray has to go out and play to win; he must not play to not lose, if you know what I mean. If he gets the first set, he should do it.

Spot on. I'd agree with that.
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Post by Jahu Wed 04 Jul 2012, 1:04 pm

Prince William and Kate welcoming Fed & Youzhni.

I told you nobody cares for Djoko!!
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Post by bogbrush Wed 04 Jul 2012, 1:05 pm

Fed choosing to receive??!! Shocked

To loosen up the back?


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Post by Jahu Wed 04 Jul 2012, 1:05 pm

Quite windy today it seems.
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Post by Guest Wed 04 Jul 2012, 1:06 pm

First dish of the day.

I guess receiving is good idea given the back problems. I sniff maybe an early break.

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Post by Jahu Wed 04 Jul 2012, 1:07 pm

Steffi looking more sexy then when she was young. Same for Agassi.
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Post by Guest Wed 04 Jul 2012, 1:09 pm

Jahu wrote:Steffi looking more sexy then when she was young. Same for Agassi.

Shocked

We have a swinger in our midsts Laugh

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