The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub, Oxford

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Hello and welcome to the Virtual Rugby Pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat.

The Pub has made it's way to Oxford - the new location for newly promoted London Welsh.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no tampering with the montage of pictures of Lyn Jones above the bar.




Old Pub: https://www.606v2.com/t31486-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub-beal-feirste

That clock is one of the nastiest things I've seen in terms of coming from supporters of rugby. That's horrible.

Johnson and chambers are the bad guys and everyone else is on spinach and vitamin pills of course....

ah Frankie Fredricks! He was always one of my faaaavourites.

Interesting by Donovan Bailey. "Its not 10 secs to me. Its a Week. A Month. A Year". Excellent perception and perspective.

jeebus how fast would Bolt have run if he hadn't have eased up in that 100m, he'd have done sub 9.5 probably .

man, I don't think he'll ever run a race like that again, just crazy, utterly crazy.

I was close to 12 seconds over 100m in my pomp, I'd have been world class in the 1890's!

rodders wrote: I was close to 12 seconds over 100m in my pomp, I'd have been world class in the 1890's!

I was World Class in the 1890's.

Gibbo! You're World class now man!

Let me step in to 'defend' the Kidney Clock.

Whoever made it, almost certainly didn't make it to be cruel. It's something made in the heat of emotion. I've made so many stupid mistakes in my life, said so many hurtful or offensive things without even realising what I'm doing, that the idea of me judging whoever made that is faintly ridiculous. So I won't make a hypocrite of myself. But I think I was always thoughtless (even insensitive) in these instances. Not nasty.

I do believe the site is thoughtless and insensitive. But I don't think it's nasty, at least not in intent. I still would like to thank Kidney for his best efforts when he does go. We do need to keep a sense of perspective, I'm not sure Kidney Clock is helping.

Sure it's a funny pic of him, hadiha and all that, but I think the sentiment behind it is not becoming or rugby fans. Just how I see it

I think it's more than fair enough you should say that, if thats what you think. I think I should probably stop talking...

I don't think the Kidney clock is any more bitter than the reactions I have seen against referees recently in all honesty.

I fail so hard at trying to be uncontroversial its not even funny.

Dreamer, ban me for an hour or two or something. Talk about something positive!

Rava wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I didn't even know there was Judo at the Olympics, just the Wrestling. There really is such a diverse selection of sports, and it caters to anyone really. The highlight for me will be the Weightlifting for sure, are any of you guys into it? I am yet to find anyone really who even knows the name of any weightlifters.

Also, any guesses who will be first to say the beach volleyball?

The most famous British Weightlifter was Precious McKenzie. A bit before your time Rory

Hmmm, I didn't know he competed for England before NZ. I did know he was born in South Africa though

Have I mentioned that I have Beach Volleyball tickets?

I have a serious problem with that bloody distasteful clock as well.

Its not moving fast enough!

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I don't think the Kidney clock is any more bitter than the reactions I have seen against referees recently in all honesty.

Yeah. Specially by the Welsh.

rugbydreamer wrote:ah Frankie Fredricks! He was always one of my faaaavourites.

He was a great guy, very humble, I loved all those silver medals he won for Namibia.

Notch wrote:I fail so hard at trying to be uncontroversial its not even funny.

Dreamer, ban me for an hour or two or something. Talk about something positive!

Well I don't know if it's something positive but we've been discussing hedgehogs and my dad's just done a hedgehog impression. I can't even properly describe it, he's not even drunk, but.....: laugh:

rodders wrote: I was close to 12 seconds over 100m in my pomp, I'd have been world class in the 1890's!

I played prop, I was so slow, I still don't have a timed run on a 100 meters.

I can tell you though, I could run a 2.4 km run "Staaldak webbing en geweer" (Army kit) in 9 minutes and 30 seconds.

Actually you know what, I'm going to ban myself for a couple of hours. Laters.

As much as I think Kidney should be replaced I think a handful of Irish have really let themselves down in their reactions towards Kidney.

Woops. You've got me in trouble again Notch!

Dreamer, I was joshin pal.

Ok ok... I'll get me coat.

Gibson wrote:I have a serious problem with that bloody distasteful clock as well.

Its not moving fast enough!

But in all seriousness people on here are happy enough to criticise referees all day long, and comment on how they spoil things and it ends up just being an attack on the referee. They get more abuse than anyone else in sport and people seem to think that is acceptable. Sometimes their criticism is justified, but a lot of the time it is just bitter. I have seen the same people on these forums say we are unfair on Kidney, despite the fact he isn't doing a good job.

Why is it acceptable for a referee to receive such strong unrelenting criticism, but not a coach? And for the record, I don't think anyone on here has ever been abusive towards Kidney. Most of the guys on here seem to realise he seems like a very likeable character. This is proved by his relationship with his players too. As a coach however, he is not doing a good job.

Just my views on it.

Rory, it happens everywhere mate, I post on an Australian website, you should see the criticism on referees there.

No different.

red_stag wrote:As much as I think Kidney should be replaced I think a handful of Irish have really let themselves down in their reactions towards Kidney.

But not before I say this. I think the majority of all Irish sporting fans, have let themselves down for 20/30 years. By putting up with and actually encouraging - mediocrity.

Discuss.

P.S. Im not Roy (The Knacker) Keane. I said it long before he was shhittin yella.

Is that my hat?

If we put the question the other way around Rory why is it ok for coaches to receive such unrelenting criticism but not referees.

Why is it ok for anyone to have to deal with that?

Yeah exactly, referees get it the worst by far but nobody really says anything. If a player or coach gets criticism though, some people go nuts.

Gibson wrote:

red_stag wrote:As much as I think Kidney should be replaced I think a handful of Irish have really let themselves down in their reactions towards Kidney.

But not before I say this. I think the majority of all Irish sporting fans, have let themselves down for 20/30 years. Putting up with and actually encouraging - mediocrity.

Discuss.

True but only partly true. You won't convince many people that our boxers accept mediocrity for example. Rugby and Football = yes we have though.

However developing a winning doesn't mean anyone has to be disrespectful or let oneself down.

red_stag wrote:If we put the question the other way around Rory why is it ok for coaches to receive such unrelenting criticism but not referees.

Why is it ok for anyone to have to deal with that?

It isn't, that isn't really the point I was trying to make, but I seem to have accidentally made it appear that way.

I am trying to say that the very people on here who are okay with referees getting such criticism would also get very upset when certain players or coaches receive even a fraction of the criticism that a referee would get. Referees do the best job they can for the most part, and so do coaches. As do players. Sometimes people can forget that.

I don't really think Kidney has received any real abuse or very bitter criticism on here. I think you disagree with me there though.

But I do think Gibson is right. In rugby we have accepted mediocrity and the "underdog" status. Which will get us nowhere. There is a clear difference between real champions of sport and everyone else. The champions don't make excuses, they accept the blame themselves, and they make sure it doesn't happen again. Then they win.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I don't really think Kidney has received any real abuse or very bitter criticism on here. I think you disagree with me there though.

I do. At times I think the criticism has crossed a line.

I won't say any more.

He is a gentleman of the highest order. He stands by his players to a man. He is a great man-manager. He has unflinching loyalty.He is not easily swayed and sticks to his principles. The kind of guy Id have as a mate for Life. And I'd love to have a pint with him.

Just next year. Not now.

Mate, I would rather you do say more then, rather than just leave it at that.

I concur with Gibbos sentiments.

Rory, maybe we should leave it at that. I regret starting this conversation.

red_stag wrote:

Gibson wrote:

red_stag wrote:As much as I think Kidney should be replaced I think a handful of Irish have really let themselves down in their reactions towards Kidney.

But not before I say this. I think the majority of all Irish sporting fans, have let themselves down for 20/30 years. Putting up with and actually encouraging - mediocrity.

Discuss.

True but only partly true. You won't convince many people that our boxers accept mediocrity for example. Rugby and Football = yes we have though.

However developing a winning doesn't mean anyone has to be disrespectful or let oneself down.

True, not the few who have made it to the pinnacle of their sport, but certainly true of the many who didn't? Don't really get your point there, Staggy

rodders wrote: I was close to 12 seconds over 100m in my pomp, I'd have been world class in the 1890's!

Respect, rodders, I've never lasted that long, doesn't matter which century I was living in

rugbydreamer wrote:aaawww Linford

Clean as a whistle that lunchbox

David Millar: "Wiggo's now better at me in everything to do with cycling, profanity-filled interviews were all I had left. Now he's taken that crown. Darn." = classic

Fair play to Chris Froome, great ride, up to 3rd

So, hi everyone. Long time no see.

Woz occurrin, Munsty? You back in Chester or in Limerick with the folks?

Geodenavond Munsty a chara.

Miss yer face.

BTW, can I ask, WTF is that profile pic on FB all about? I should have those parties...

Gib, recognise this airport?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVhGVNdFjfU&feature=player_embedded - the bird sounds should give it away. And the character, one of Holland'sScotland's most famous sons!

Christ As! I thought that was you and Huggie man.

Its McVisser at Schiphol ja? Excellent.

3 words... Dervla feicin Kirwan. I would do her washin.. and dryin. Mr. Swanny is a huge fan too. De man has sublime all-round taste.

Gibson wrote:Christ As! I thought that was you and Huggie man.

Its McVisser at Schiphol ja? Excellent.

3 words... Dervla feicin Kirwan. I would do her washin.. and dryin. Mr. Swanny is a huge fan too. De man has sublime all-round taste.

Reckon it will be us on the way to the Chef's - haven't heard from the Hoog since he got to Antrim, reckon they've snared him

Whats he doing in Antrim bud? Hold on, no need to answer that.

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

Gibson wrote:Christ As! I thought that was you and Huggie man.

Its McVisser at Schiphol ja? Excellent.

3 words... Dervla feicin Kirwan. I would do her washin.. and dryin. Mr. Swanny is a huge fan too. De man has sublime all-round taste.

Reckon it will be us on the way to the Chef's - haven't heard from the Hoog since he got to Antrim, reckon they've snared him

The terrorist holding cell is in Antrim Police Station Just saying ...

Notch wrote:I concur with Gibbos sentiments.

Rory, maybe we should leave it at that. I regret starting this conversation.

Again?

Rav,
Is he in your house bud? I like being a snared terror-wrist in your pad. and a for As.

I know. I am not great. I might stop posting for a month or two. Maybe a break is the best thing.