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Post by Guest Fri 06 Jul 2012, 9:09 am

First topic message reminder :

Thought I would dislodge the toilet brush as matchday thread connoisseur Wink

Federer v Djokovic

Murray v Tsonga

Whack away! Ok!

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Post by VTR Fri 06 Jul 2012, 3:52 pm

Fair enough Seifer. If I'm honest I don't get the idea of supporting a Tennis player. Its an individual sport and as such I view it that the players represent themselves. I'll back the Brits but never that disappointed when they lose.

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Post by luciusmann Fri 06 Jul 2012, 3:53 pm

Henman Bill wrote:Why was more on the line for Djokovic today than when he won his first slam or his first Wimbledon or US Open? hardly?? At most it was on a par with those matches. if that.

Wasn't even a final. No guarantee that Murray/Tsonga won't cause a slight surprise and walk off with the title.


The pressure was on Nadal because he had lost 4 straight matches going into that Wimbledon final and it continued into the USO final. That is certainly how it felt at the time. Many thought the pressure was more on Djokovic going into those matches but not especially when Nadal had been losing all his matches to Djokovic in 2011.

This match had his No.1 on the line and he was defending champion.

I agree, I wouldn't rule out Murray or Tsonga but I think we'll all agree Fed has been playing great in the last few rounds and if continues to hold onto his serve so comfortably, he'll be difficult to beat.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri 06 Jul 2012, 3:54 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:My heart is literally in my ars£ now.

I'd be very careful with your next bowel movement.

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Jul 2012, 3:54 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:My heart is literally in my ars£ now.

I'd be very careful with your next bowel movement.

I can tell you it has shut up shop for the next few hours Laugh

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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 06 Jul 2012, 3:56 pm

VTR wrote:Fair enough Seifer. If I'm honest I don't get the idea of supporting a Tennis player. Its an individual sport and as such I view it that the players represent themselves. I'll back the Brits but never that disappointed when they lose.

I understand that... in fact there are only 2 or 3 sportsman where it means so much to me. I understand that they are millionaires and that this is "a game", but it is the animal instinct to want to win and to feel the fight. I physically shake watching Federer... I dunno... it feels bad but also good. I think it is one of those things you have to feel! In my case, I want Federer to win for justice... of talent and ability. For the work to pay off... And because he is as sound as a pound.

When you play sports.... do you ever get the want to win and feel really annoyed at losing? Everyone must be able to feel that surely?

I can't support "teams" because they often buy their way to the top.

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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 06 Jul 2012, 3:58 pm

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legendkillarV2 wrote:My heart is literally in my ars£ now.

I'd be very careful with your next bowel movement.

I'm so nervous, can't imagine how nervous Murray is.

The start is sooooo important. MUST start faster than he did against Ferrer.

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Post by VTR Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:03 pm

Yeah I get that when I play sport Seifer - I'm very competitive. If that's how Federer affects you then good for you as there's nothing like going on that journey with your favourite team/player and feeling part of it.

Just for me I've only ever felt that about teams that are representing me e.g. England football, cricket team, my pathetic lower league football team. I don't get too excited these days about anything though - a lifetime of following sports has made me more immune to the highs and lows!

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Post by Jahu Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:04 pm

Go Andyyyyyyy Go
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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:06 pm

VTR wrote:Yeah I get that when I play sport Seifer - I'm very competitive. If that's how Federer affects you then good for you as there's nothing like going on that journey with your favourite team/player and feeling part of it.

Just for me I've only ever felt that about teams that are representing me e.g. England football, cricket team, my pathetic lower league football team. I don't get too excited these days about anything though - a lifetime of following sports has made me more immune to the highs and lows!

That's a shame... I think supporting an individual can be more intense... it is just you and them... But maybe you just haven't found the right guy (haha sorry that sounds gay! but!)

I love supporting England in football... deeply patriotic and you can't buy a title at int. level.

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Post by Henman Bill Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:09 pm

Probably should have said without playing Djokovic or Nadal which is what I meant...

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:09 pm

Nice start by the one without a forehand.

Well OK
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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:09 pm

Great start Murray. Break up already.

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Post by VTR Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:10 pm

Haha - of course it could be a sportswoman. My old man is a big Jess Ennis fan though I don't think it has much to do with him wanting her to win Very Happy

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Post by reckoner Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:11 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:My heart is literally in my ars£ now.

I'd be very careful with your next bowel movement.

I can tell you it has shut up shop for the next few hours Laugh

What happens if you hiccup?

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Post by VTR Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:15 pm

Not a very Murray like start here. The slow starter has come out firing. Could this be the year?!

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Post by reckoner Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:16 pm

VTR wrote:Not a very Murray like start here. The slow starter has come out firing. Could this be the year?!

not if history's any guide, sadly

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Post by invisiblecoolers Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:16 pm

Murray starts explosive, never seen him play this aggressive early on in a match, go Muzza go.

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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:17 pm

I prefer Murray in the final to Tsonga.... for Federer.

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Post by invisiblecoolers Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:17 pm

Amazing winner from Tsonga with a lob, the semifinal is heating up now.

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:18 pm

VTR wrote:Well played Federer. Will be the favourite in the final for obvious reasons.

Bit concerned about some of the grown men on here creaming themselves over a sweaty man in shorts winning a Tennis match!

Don't think anyone's creaming their pants.

But I guess you haven't seen what footy fans are like when 11 sweaty men in shorts win a match!

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:18 pm

My eyes are lying. Murray has started beautifully. Warped my mind.
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Post by reckoner Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:18 pm

I see this as a nervy start from Tsonga and an excellent start from Murray. I guess Novak's loss has given him heart...

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Post by Guest Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:19 pm

Wow, some serious hitting from Murray - can he keep it up or will he go back into his shell at some point?

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Post by laverfan Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:27 pm

Fantastic FH from Andy. Cool

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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:28 pm

Murray over 66% points won on second serve for the tournament.

What is he doing differently? It seems a little deeper, but not that different to justify a weakness becoming a strength!!!

Any suggestions? Am I missing something obvious?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:29 pm

Tsonga needs a kick up the backside. Does he realise he is in a Wimbledon Semi?? He is playing like Murray in a Semi Final usually Whistle
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Post by break_in_the_fifth Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:29 pm

Funnily enough despite what some said I was impressed by his approach to the Ferrer match and he's maintaining that quality he showed.

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Post by Jahu Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:31 pm

Tsonga has lost the sense of occasion i think. Playing like he's warming up in Queens.
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Post by kemet Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:37 pm

One set down for Murray. Two more to go.

Come on Andy. You can do it. Keep serving as well as you have been (If only he could hear me).

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Post by CaledonianCraig Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:37 pm

First set Muzza looking very solid so far. Two more sets away from history.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:39 pm

invisiblecoolers wrote:Murray starts explosive, never seen him play this aggressive early on in a match, go Muzza go.
It's actually a bit scary, for a Federer fan.
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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:39 pm

It is looking like I was wrong about Tsonga's bottle... I really thought he would have it... He does have the game and the talent and the power... but his bottle is certainly suspect. Even more suspect than Murray's.

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Post by GSC Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:47 pm

Tsonga serve looks suspect everytime.
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Post by laverfan Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:47 pm

Tsonga's net play is very nice. thumbsup

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Post by invisiblecoolers Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:48 pm

bogbrush wrote:
invisiblecoolers wrote:Murray starts explosive, never seen him play this aggressive early on in a match, go Muzza go.
It's actually a bit scary, for a Federer fan.

It is BB, I was saying this for quite a while that he is a very good grass court player, in 2009 it was an inspirational performance from Roddick [who is an exceptional grass court player] prevented him from reaching the finals.

With tougher draw this time around, it has warmed Andy up very well, even a semi against Rafa would not have bothered him too much.

Finals for Fed would be no easy task.


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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:49 pm

laverfan wrote:Tsonga's net play is very nice. thumbsup

I love Tsonga's variety! It was his Aus win over Nadal in 2008(?) that made me a fan.

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Post by invisiblecoolers Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:50 pm

Seifer Almasy wrote:
laverfan wrote:Tsonga's net play is very nice. thumbsup

I love Tsonga's variety! It was his Aus win over Nadal in 2008(?) that made me a fan.

What about Del Potro's USO win over Rafa [doubling with Roger win] Very Happy

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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:52 pm

That was pretty special... but for Fed fan it was also painful!

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Post by laverfan Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:52 pm

The Tsonga level when he beat Federer @W is completely missing though. Crying or Very sad

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Post by laverfan Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:53 pm

Tsonga in a hole with that DF 0-30.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:53 pm

Murray is playing puker tennis- nice to see early on!

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Post by laverfan Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:55 pm

Fight Tsonga.

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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:55 pm

If you want "creaming your pants" check out the pro Murray commentator.

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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:56 pm

laverfan wrote:The Tsonga level when he beat Federer @W is completely missing though. Crying or Very sad
Aye but don't forget, that monster came back from 2-0 down.

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Post by break_in_the_fifth Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:57 pm

laverfan wrote:The Tsonga level when he beat Federer @W is completely missing though. Crying or Very sad

I don't know why everyone remembers that so fondly, yeah Tsonga was good but Fed was so useless that match. I mean he broke once at the beginning of the match and then never saw another break point and could hardly rally or make any returns afterwards.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:57 pm

Magic returning there from Murray and he breaks to lead 3-2.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:58 pm

Murray is playing great, no question about it, but Tonga looks awful.

McEnroe saying his back s no good, tough to stick that on Murray but he is awful.
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Post by mystiroakey Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:58 pm

murray is battering tsonga, and he is gonna deep fry him now!

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Post by GSC Fri 06 Jul 2012, 4:58 pm

Tsonga needs to get into this match now or hes in deep trouble. Just looks outclassed at this point.
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Post by invisiblecoolers Fri 06 Jul 2012, 5:00 pm

Muzza is playing very aggressive tennis, his returns are stunning serving great including 2nd serves, forehand has been deadly, backhand are setting up winners, he is making Tsonga look like a journey man.

Andy is up for it really, he is proving how good a grass court player he is.

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