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Post by The Special Juan Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:10 pm

First topic message reminder :

Here is a list of all the "big movers" to the PL this season. The table contains the player's name, club moved from and to and fee for so we can scrutinise them Wink Only players who have moved from outside the PL will be included.



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Player From To Fee
Santi Cazorla Malaga (Spain) Arsenal £20.24m
Olivier Giroud Montpellier (France)Arsenal £13.2m
Eden Hazard Lille (France)Chelsea £35.2m
Shinji Kagawa Borussia Dortmund (Germany) Man Utd £13.2m
Marko Marin Werder Bremen (Germany)Chelsea £8.6m
Oscar Internacional (Brazil) Chelsea £26.4m
Lukas PodolskiCologne (Germany)Arsenal £11.4m
Jan Vertonghen Ajax (Netherlands)Tottenham £7.5m
Aswad ThomasBraintree Town (England) Grimsby Town Undisclosed

Any updates would be appreciated.

Other transfers that may/may not be interesting:

Alou Diarra - West Ham
Fabio Borini - Liverpool
Gylfi Sigurdsson - Spurs
Jay Rodriguez - Southampton
Markus Rosenberg - West Brom
Michu - Swansea
Nathaniel Clyne - Southampton
Nick Powell - Manchester United
Robert Snodgrass - Norwich
Romain Amalfitano - Newcastle
Ron Vlaar - Aston Villa
Steven Naismith - Everton

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/transferuebersicht/wettbewerb_GB1.html



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Post by The Special Juan Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:52 pm

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The Special Juan wrote:I thought Rogers signed something saying he couldn't take any Swansea players for 1 season?

Reportedly the rule is that Rodgers can't bid for anybody in the Swansea side, until another team does. So, say Fulham bid for Joe Allen, it means Liverpool can bid for him as well.

Wow, what a weird rule. I've never heard anything like that before.
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Post by Crimey Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:00 pm

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The Special Juan wrote:I thought Rogers signed something saying he couldn't take any Swansea players for 1 season?

Reportedly the rule is that Rodgers can't bid for anybody in the Swansea side, until another team does. So, say Fulham bid for Joe Allen, it means Liverpool can bid for him as well.

Wow, what a weird rule. I've never heard anything like that before.

I think the bid has to be accepted for Liverpool to be allowed to bid though. It's the idea that if Swansea are going to sell them anyway, it's not a problem that Rodgers is going for the old players as he isn't stealing them.

I imagine it's like that most of the time, we just don't hear about it.

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Post by GSC Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:16 am

Junior Hoilett to QPR
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:55 pm

Arsenal confirm they have received three bids for van persie

I know I sound pessimistic but I don't think we (united) have a hope of signing him when Juve and City are willing to offer him more money and he will have just as much chance of winning a trophy at either one than at Old Trafford

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Post by Guest Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:56 pm

Arsenal confirm they have received three bids for van persie

I know I sound pessimistic but I don't think we (united) have a hope of signing him when Juve and City are willing to offer him more money and he will have just as much chance of winning a trophy at either one than at Old Trafford

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Post by compelling and rich Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:54 pm

i doubt juve can out bid us, but city on the otherhand.......

said all along that i thought he be going city

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Post by The Special Juan Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:14 pm

Getting really fed up with Sao Paulo over Lucas. They want £35m for him. I'd rather we spent it on Modric. At least we're getting someone who can play in the Premiership. To be fair, I've never seen Lucas play so he could be god for all I know.

What's interesting is that there's a lot of Brazilian talent apparently heading to England in Oscar, Lucas and possibly Ganso. I think Lucas is a huge risk for Man Utd and if they do get him, I hope it pays off as we don't have £35m to lose.

Aside from Taarabt and Hoilett QPR are a team of journeymen and rejects. Massive defensive frailties and unless they improve they'll go down.
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Post by The Special Juan Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:19 pm

And apparently Man City, Man Utd and Juve fans don't want RVP. Laugh
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Post by compelling and rich Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:24 pm

wright phillips shouldnt be anywhere near the squad, mackie was a better winger than him last season. think that shows how much swp has dropped, yeah very poor defensively which for a smaller team is worrying. any team will struggle to stay up if there defence is poor

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Post by compelling and rich Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:44 pm

cant understand why there ruling out our bid for rvp, its not like were rivals. if it were newcastle, spurs, liverpool i would understand.

if only arsenal had been so moral when they have sold half there squad to city to make arsenal title challenge null and void

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Post by Liam Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:59 pm

I agree with Juan if we have 35m to spend on a player it would be Modric/Mouthino rather than a very promising, but, risky buy for Lucas. He wouldn't fit into our system for a start.

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Post by compelling and rich Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:03 pm

the problem with brazilans for me is they can become lazy and complacent, certainly the ones at united have never progressed at all. think once they make it big they think they achieved they no longer have the hunger, unlike the argentina players who work thier arses off with talent. not just united players this though, even greats like ronaldo and ronaldino trailed off at ends of career because of lack of commitment to training

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Post by Bull Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:05 pm

United are apparently considering a 20m bid of Sahin

his not a bad payer and could really improve under sir alex

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Post by Liam Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:12 pm

Now Sahin would be a good buy. Unlucky with injuries at Madrid but he is a very good player, and a DM which is exactly what we need.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:07 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:United are apparently considering a 20m bid of Sahin

his not a bad payer and could really improve under sir alex


Interesting. I have never understood the buy from Real Madrid. He was class at Dortmund and has done nothing but warm the bench for the likes of Di Maria in Spain.

Have not heard this rumour yet but will check it out.

As a Stoke Fan, i sometimes wish we had money to buy players of this calibre! Sad


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Post by Bull Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:08 pm

his not played due to being injured and yeah he was class at Dortmund. would be a good buy as he has played with Kagawa as well and fits in to the team as well.

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Post by GSC Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:55 pm

Sahins decent but nothing special
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:58 pm

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Sahins decent but nothing special

I think you also stated that Ibrahimovic has done nothing special or has never impressed you, something along those lines. I'd advise you think about watching more than just the English Premier League.

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Post by The Special Juan Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:10 pm

What's Sahin like? I've not seen him play for any real length of time.
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:28 pm

I don't think alot of people have ever seen him play. I saw him at Dortmund in a couple of games and he was sensational. Fantastic passing and great vision, technically very good. He was Bundesliga player of the year before he joined Real Madrid and then unfortunately injuries struck. The problem is, I don't think he's a great tackler, he's a holding midfielder but not the type manchester united need. He likes to be creative and expressive, like Xabi Alonso, therefore I can't see United going for him because United need a more defensive minded player who can break up the play, someone like Tiote.

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United need a genuine tackler in the middle. I keep hearing about Strootman but Anderson or Cleverley are not this type of player either. United in my opinin don't need Lucas Moura but need this holding midfielder and new full backs.




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Post by GSC Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:56 pm

John wrote:
Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Sahins decent but nothing special

I think you also stated that Ibrahimovic has done nothing special or has never impressed you, something along those lines. I'd advise you think about watching more than just the English Premier League.

Maybe you should start watching the EPL then, given every England player ever has done nothing special or impressed you.

Believe it or not, people can have differing opinions, and just because I haven't been impressed in person, does not mean they're good. Everytime I watched Gomez last season he was awful, but he still had a great season
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Post by GSC Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:44 pm

SAF confirms Utd made RVP bid
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Post by The Special Juan Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:00 pm

GB England and Wales v Brazil tonight. Possibly a chance to see Neymar, Ganso, Oscar and Lucas.
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Post by GSC Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:24 pm

Ipswich open contract talks with Emile Heskey
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:39 pm

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Post by The Special Juan Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:42 pm

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Post by GSC Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:43 pm

I thought for sure he'd end up at Leicester. Still, as long as it ain't Forest.
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:07 am

Must admit I was impressed with Lucas Moura's cameo show in the last 20 minutes tonight for Brazil, looks a great talent but I can't see United buying him if they've put offer in for RVP.

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:48 am

35m is an obscene price for a teenager.
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:48 am

And a 20 minute cameo, against league 2 standard players Wink
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:57 am

Spurs have interest in Rondon, a United target

they also wont go beyond 14m for Lloris

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:35 am

Personal terms agreed with Lloris
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:53 pm

I'm sorry but I don't understand that deal. Replacing Friedel for Lloris for around £15m seems ridiculous for Tottenham. Changing your already capable goalkeeper is pointless for that amount of money if your outfield players are not good enough to challenge for the top 4. There are other areas Spurs need improving, I mean is Lloris that good to transform your side into a top 4.......no!

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:55 pm

Friedel is 41

Lloris is 25
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:03 pm

Southampton would have interest in resigning Walcott
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:04 pm

and what's your point? Friedel has performed brilliantly for Spurs and even at 41 still is arguably better than most GK's in the premier league. Why spend £15m on an area of the pitch which won't have a huge effect upon improving the team and achieving a top 4 place. Spurs need a striker and a replacement for Modric. If you've seen anything of Lloris you will know he will struggle to adapt to the physical nature of the Premier League like De Gea, he's appaling at dealing with crosses.

I think alot of Spurs fans will be agreeing with my point

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:07 pm

Because sooner or later he'll hang it up. Yes you have to keep improving, but part of that is not allowing your team to get too old. Only focussing on your weaknesses is a narrow minded way to build.

And Adebayor is haggling over personal terms, Moutinho likely to follow once money available from Modric sale.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:22 pm

Lloris is a better GK than Freidel in my opinion anyway. At 41 Friedel has probably one year left in him. Build towards the future, and Lloris has the potential to be one of the world's best GK's
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:46 pm

Wigan agree 5.5m fee for Ivan Ramis

Villa leading race for Lukaku on loan
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:50 pm

No love for Mandanda? He's hard. Only seen him once though.

Man City haven't started yet. I wonder who they're after.
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:53 pm

RVP. Trying to offload Tevez and Dzeko among others before they make moves.

Newcastle want Alarcon on loan
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:17 pm

Juve are trying to pair RVP with Suarez. Interesting. Balotelli isn't leaving though so that's a surprise. He's a real liability so I'd be rid of him pronto.

I'm not understanding the fuss about Victor Moses. I've not seen him do anything special so how is he "worth" £10m?
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm

Another bad performance from Hulk last night.
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Post by Crimey Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:35 pm

John wrote:and what's your point? Friedel has performed brilliantly for Spurs and even at 41 still is arguably better than most GK's in the premier league. Why spend £15m on an area of the pitch which won't have a huge effect upon improving the team and achieving a top 4 place. Spurs need a striker and a replacement for Modric. If you've seen anything of Lloris you will know he will struggle to adapt to the physical nature of the Premier League like De Gea, he's appaling at dealing with crosses.

I think alot of Spurs fans will be agreeing with my point

Maybe, just maybe Tottenham are thinking long-term rather than just focusing on the next two or so years.

£15 million will pay for a goalkeeper who could possibly play at the top level for the next 10-15 years.

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:28 pm

Swansea vs Roma for Kjaer on loan
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Post by The Special Juan Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:41 pm

Only 1 winner there.
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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:18 pm

I wouldnt rule out the impact of his countryman as manager
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:46 pm

Plus one good season at Swansea puts you on the radar of every top club in the PL, just look at Sigurdsson now at Liverpool. I believe Kjaer would rather start a career in the Premier League than the Serie A.

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Post by GSC Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:51 pm

Also far more likely to stand out there than Roma
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