Big Premier League Signings II

First topic message reminder :

Here is a list of all the "big movers" to the PL this season. The table contains the player's name, club moved from and to and fee for so we can scrutinise them Only players who have moved from outside the PL will be included.



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Player	From	To	Fee
Santi Cazorla	Malaga (Spain)	Arsenal	£20.24m
Olivier Giroud	Montpellier (France)	Arsenal	£13.2m
Eden Hazard	Lille (France)	Chelsea	£35.2m
Shinji Kagawa	Borussia Dortmund (Germany)	Man Utd	£13.2m
Marko Marin	Werder Bremen (Germany)	Chelsea	£8.6m
Oscar	Internacional (Brazil)	Chelsea	£26.4m
Lukas Podolski	Cologne (Germany)	Arsenal	£11.4m
Jan Vertonghen	Ajax (Netherlands)	Tottenham	£7.5m
Aswad Thomas	Braintree Town (England)	Grimsby Town	Undisclosed

Any updates would be appreciated.

Other transfers that may/may not be interesting:

Alou Diarra - West Ham
Fabio Borini - Liverpool
Gylfi Sigurdsson - Spurs
Jay Rodriguez - Southampton
Markus Rosenberg - West Brom
Michu - Swansea
Nathaniel Clyne - Southampton
Nick Powell - Manchester United
Robert Snodgrass - Norwich
Romain Amalfitano - Newcastle
Ron Vlaar - Aston Villa
Steven Naismith - Everton

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/transferuebersicht/wettbewerb_GB1.html

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Give it time before you say that

Trust me, Elliott Ward is just awful. I mean I think Titus Bramble is better, he really is that bad

Michael Turner isnt much better

martyr wrote:i would think gerrard will be moved in behind the striker, like when he was with torres under benitez. that's the formation rodgers played at swansea, with sigurdsson in behind graham. allen will be the man who dictates the pace with lucas the man to break up attacks and stay back.

I'd be very surprised if Gerrard plays behind the striker, which he hasn't for about 3 years. He doesn't have the legs to do it any more, that's why he's forced deep these days.

I imagine the first team will look something like (if we sign Allen, if not replace him with Henderson):

-------Borini-----

Suarez-------Bellamy

--------Allen-------

----Lucas----Gerrard

Enrique--Agger--Skrtel--Johnson

----------Reina--------------

with the back ups being:

--------Carroll----

Downing-------Cole

---------Henderson---

----Adam----------Spearing

Robinson--Coates--Carragher---Kelly

-----------Jones---------

I'm still not convinced that the first team has improved at all from last year. I'm glad we have more back up front, but I think it's mental that no wingers have been signed. Suarez isn't really a winger, and I don't think Cole will be good enough.

Why would Borini play on the wings and Suarez as a lone striker?

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Michael Turner isnt much better

You obviously didn't watch Elliott Ward last season then

I honestly thought Hughton would dip into the Championship tbh, Turner just isn't PL standard

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:I honestly thought Hughton would dip into the Championship tbh, Turner just isn't PL standard

I thought we were gonna get Curtis Davies tbh. However I don't think there is that many real quality CB's floating in the Championship.
Also Turner was good at Hull, and Sunderland paid £10 million??? for him for a reason. Decent CB he is

He had 1 good season and Sunderland got excited. Lets not forget they signed Titus Bramble because he suddenly found some form.

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:He had 1 good season and Sunderland got excited. Lets not forget they signed Titus Bramble because he suddenly found some form.

True. But I'm not gonna write him off before he has played a game for us

Lets not forget the genius in converting Kieron Richardson to LB once they found out he wasn't good

Swansea reject 10m and Shelvey on loan

haha, bet swansea were like, wait shelvey..umm..no thanks! we'll just have the 15m please.

martyr wrote:haha, bet swansea were like, wait shelvey..umm..no thanks! we'll just have the 15m please.

Shelvey is great. I think he'll be a real star in the future.

haven't seen much from shelvey to suggest that crimey i'm afraid. don't really see what he brings.

I must say I rate Shelvey as well. Think he will be a real good player, sort of hoped maybe we could get him on loan this year!

martyr wrote:haven't seen much from shelvey to suggest that crimey i'm afraid. don't really see what he brings.

He's only on 20, yet is so assured on the ball. Excellent passing range, always willing to get the ball, driving runs similar to Gerrard, can shoot from distance.

i understand he's only 20. tbh perhaps i've been too harsh on him. He did have some decent games last season, perhaps i'm confusing him to spearing. He's someone i just don't rate at all.

Is only 20 an excuse in the modern football world? Plenty of 20 year olds and younger tearing it up on the international stage just fine

martyr wrote:i understand he's only 20. tbh perhaps i've been too harsh on him. He did have some decent games last season, perhaps i'm confusing him to spearing. He's someone i just don't rate at all.

I think people are slightly harsh on Spearing. He's obviously not a world class player, but he's a decent enough squad player, he always puts in 100% and does put in some good performances.

Bathite wrote:Is only 20 an excuse in the modern football world? Plenty of 20 year olds and younger tearing it up on the international stage just fine

It's still unusual for a 20 year old to be so confident on the ball. It also depends on what country you're from how quickly you break onto the international team.

Bathite wrote:Is only 20 an excuse in the modern football world? Plenty of 20 year olds and younger tearing it up on the international stage just fine

It's no more of an excuse than a reason to start writing him off.

Suarez on the wing, Borini in the middle. Suarez isn't a great finisher.

Borini isn't proven at this level or at this historic club to be playing up top and Suarez on the wing. That's my point throughout, why did BR decide to spend that amount of money on Borini when there are plenty of other proven and available goalscorers around that could of enabled Suarez to play on the wing of a front 3 and give the manager confidence it would work. You can see what BR is doing, he's trying to play the long game bringing in these young players and develop his own team, however another failure in the league could see him out the door. No patience at Liverpool and that's the problem.

Borini, Suarez, Bellamy, Carroll - no natural or prolific goalscorer who you would have confidence in getting 20 a season in the league. Demba Ba/Defoe/Adebayor/Bent......to name a few that are proven. I still believe Villa and Lambert would of accepted a bid for Bent to provide funds for his plans at Villa.

The problem with proven goalscorers at the top level is that they tend to cost upwards of 30m

Maybe that's why they're after Dempsey, for 10 goals or so from midfield. I think they didn't go for Bent because of his injury. Plus Bent needs service and when you look at Liverpool's wingers they aren't good.

Agreed, Rodgers is trying to build his own team but he won't get the time and, like Di Matteo, may well be out the door at the end of the season if results aren't good.

Ba for£7m & Adebayor for around £6m - he's just about wages. It's all about Liverpools scouting I guess, I mean we picked up Cisse for £9m or so after he was banging them in the Bundesliga for two seasons. I don't see how Dempsey would improve Liverpool and he's nearly 30.

Only time will tell with Borini. From what I've seen, he is pacey and knows where the goal is and can play anyhere upfront in a 433 formation.

Adebayor wants 180k a week and Ba wants 100k

cant say I rate either as that great either

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Only time will tell with Borini. From what I've seen, he is pacey and knows where the goal is and can play anyhere upfront in a 433 formation.

Not to mention he takes a wicked free kick.

Small Time wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Only time will tell with Borini. From what I've seen, he is pacey and knows where the goal is and can play anyhere upfront in a 433 formation.

Not to mention he takes a whicked free kick.

He scored one free kick against us. One. Bar Steward

Olly wrote:

Small Time wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Only time will tell with Borini. From what I've seen, he is pacey and knows where the goal is and can play anyhere upfront in a 433 formation.

Not to mention he takes a whicked free kick.

He scored one free kick against us. One. Bar Steward

And it was a great free kick.

Small Time wrote:

Olly wrote:

Small Time wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Only time will tell with Borini. From what I've seen, he is pacey and knows where the goal is and can play anyhere upfront in a 433 formation.

Not to mention he takes a whicked free kick.

He scored one free kick against us. One. Bar Steward

And it was a great free kick.

It was. Bar Steward

oscar to chelsea confirmed

£25m eh? Financial Fair Play anyone?

Again, 100m from winning Cl

It was actually £50m I heard.

But we were both wrong

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_money_will_Chelsea_receive_for_winning_champion_league_in_2012

Regardless, its what funding the 65m spent on transfers.

Plus Drogba's salary off the books

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Swansea reject 10m and Shelvey on loan

Nice try Liverpool

Apparently, Allen has a release clause at £15m.

Swans ain't happy with Rodgers and 'pool http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7932902/

That seems a bit dodgy if it's true, there should be measures in place to stop ex managers from exploiting release clauses.

you got to love goal.com, 'man utd fans want fergie to sign van persie'. Sorry, but everyone utd fan i've talked too would rather us focus on other key areas where we could do with strengthening.

Good start from Kagawa today, MOTM and a goal.

also swans not too happy about liverpool's interest in joe allen. Apparently they claim liverpool agreed not to try and sign the any of the club's players for at least 12 months, which is fair enough if you ask me.

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Adebayor wants 180k a week and Ba wants 100k

cant say I rate either as that great either

Demba Ba £7m - 7 goals in 12 PL games for West Ham followed by 16 goals for Newcastle United last season
Adebayor £5.5m - 17 goals last year for Tottenham and over 70 PL goals for Man City & Arsenal

Irrelevant of their 'apparent' wage demands which can be negotiated, they are both less expensive and are proven PL goalscorers compared to Fabio Borini. Liverpool are expecting to challenge for a top 4 place and the fans, as always, want immediate results. BR is focusing on a long term project, however, as we all know, if the short term results are not positive and his young signings fail to produce, then he may find himself following in KD's direction.

John wrote:

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Adebayor wants 180k a week and Ba wants 100k

cant say I rate either as that great either

Demba Ba £7m - 7 goals in 12 PL games for West Ham followed by 16 goals for Newcastle United last season
Adebayor £5.5m - 17 goals last year for Tottenham and over 70 PL goals for Man City & Arsenal

Irrelevant of their 'apparent' wage demands which can be negotiated, they are both less expensive and are proven PL goalscorers compared to Fabio Borini. Liverpool are expecting to challenge for a top 4 place and the fans, as always, want immediate results. BR is focusing on a long term project, however, as we all know, if the short term results are not positive and his young signings fail to produce, then he may find himself following in KD's direction.

Yeah, but their transfer fees are balanced out by their wage demands.

They're also both older than Borini, and it's pretty obvious that he was signed because Rodgers has worked with him before and rates him. Demba Ba has his knee issues, which led to Stoke not signing him, it's possible that they could flare up at any moment, and I imagine that's why the release clause is so low. Adebayor has a history of having an abrasive personality and is very inconsistent.

While I'm not convinced by the signing of Borini, I don't think Adebayor and Ba would that good of signings either.

If Adebayor's wages could be negotiated hed be a Spurs player

Kaka going back to AC Milan

So much for financial troubles

Yer, makes sense from Mourinho to get rid. Not in the first team, injury prone and getting him out the door before Modric joins. I'm surprised he's not gone back to Brazil ahead of the World Cup. Fee?

Not a clue, but I doubt its over 20m

To be fair, if he was anybody else he wouldn't be seen as such a flop.

Oh, he's a massive flop.

50m I believe it was

Isn't it purely a loan deal?