The Leicester Tigers thread

[Portnoy]

First topic message reminder :

2012/3 may well prove to be a memorable one.

For once, there seems to be (albeit not unplumbable) strength in depth, a fairly healthy squad and a straightforward, uncomplicated international season.

[Jimpy]

Have to say I understand your point Sam, but I agree with jeffwinger - He really is becoming the Alex Ferguson of rugby (possibly without the winning record!)

He may have a point, but he's going to do himself and the club credit if he doesn't have a whinge. Sometimes dignified silence is preferable.

Well, you said it.

[Portnoy's Complaint]

http://www.leicestertigers.com/news/16219.php#.UWf_LcqM5hc

Leicester Tigers (v London Wasps, Welford Road, Sunday 3.45pm)
15 Mathew Tait
14 Niall Morris
13 Manusamoa Tuilagi
12 Anthony Allen
11 Adam Thompstone
10 Toby Flood (c)
9 Ben Youngs
1 Logovi'i Mulipola
2 Tom Youngs
3 Dan Cole
4 Ed Slater
5 Geoff Parling
6 Tom Croft
7 Julian Salvi
8 Jordan Crane

Replacements
16 Rob Hawkins
17 Fraser Balmain
18 Martin Castrogiovanni
19 Graham Kitchener
20 Thomas Waldrom
21 Sam Harrison
22 George Ford
23 Matt Smith


London Wasps
15 Elliot Daly
14 Christian Wade
13 Chris Bell (c)
12 Charlie Hayter
11 Tom Varndell
10 Nick Robinson
9 Charlie Davies
1 Zak Taulafo
2 Tom Lindsay
3 Will Taylor
4 James Cannon
5 Tom Palmer
6 Ashley Johnson
7 Jonathan Poff
8 Billy Vunipola

Replacements
16 Nathan Morris
17 Simon McIntyre
18 Lorenzo Romano
19 Alex Rae
20 Matt Everard
21 Joe Simpson
22 Tommy Bell
23 Jack Wallace

It appears that Cockers is going full tilt for the title (obviously).

But like Kevin Kegan all those years ago (re Magpies' tilt at the title), I'd love it. I'd really, really love it.

Nothing surpasses winning the proper league.

[beshocked]

http://www.leicestertigers.com/news/16219.php#.UWf_LcqM5hc

Leicester Tigers (v London Wasps, Welford Road, Sunday 3.45pm)
15 Mathew Tait
14 Niall Morris
13 Manusamoa Tuilagi
12 Anthony Allen
11 Adam Thompstone
10 Toby Flood (c)
9 Ben Youngs
1 Logovi'i Mulipola
2 Tom Youngs
3 Dan Cole
4 Ed Slater
5 Geoff Parling
6 Tom Croft
7 Julian Salvi
8 Jordan Crane

Replacements
16 Rob Hawkins
17 Fraser Balmain
18 Martin Castrogiovanni
19 Graham Kitchener
20 Thomas Waldrom
21 Sam Harrison
22 George Ford
23 Matt Smith


London Wasps
15 Elliot Daly
14 Christian Wade
13 Chris Bell (c)
12 Charlie Hayter
11 Tom Varndell
10 Nick Robinson
9 Charlie Davies
1 Zak Taulafo
2 Tom Lindsay
3 Will Taylor
4 James Cannon
5 Tom Palmer
6 Ashley Johnson
7 Jonathan Poff
8 Billy Vunipola

Replacements
16 Nathan Morris
17 Simon McIntyre
18 Lorenzo Romano
19 Alex Rae
20 Matt Everard
21 Joe Simpson
22 Tommy Bell
23 Jack Wallace

It appears that Cockers is going full tilt for the title (obviously).

But like Kevin Kegan all those years ago (re Magpies' tilt at the title), I'd love it. I'd really, really love it.

Nothing surpasses winning the proper league.

Define proper league? Is that most wins or most bonus points?

If it's most bonus points then Tigers win that competition every single time.

[Portnoy's Complaint]

I set up a post on your previous enquiry 'shocked

https://www.606v2.com/t42138-jeff-bonus-points?highlight=bonus

[beshocked]

Thank you for making that thread for my benefit. The answer is yes. Fair enough. Not surprised you have that opinion.

As a concept I don't mind bonus points but would cut the losing bonus point to having to be within 5 points.

[LondonTiger]

BP League:

Wasps 11
Worcester 11
Bath 10
Leicester 9
Quins 8
Gloucester 8
Exeter 8
London Welsh 7
Northampton 6
Saracens 5
London Irish 4
Sale 4

[bluestonevedder]

What's happened to the Hask??

[beshocked]

BP League:

Wasps 11
Worcester 11
Bath 10
Leicester 9
Quins 8
Gloucester 8
Exeter 8
London Welsh 7
Northampton 6
Saracens 5
London Irish 4
Sale 4

Wow you got me there. Tigers are only 4th!

[timhen]

In considering a 'BP league' it's worth noting whether those points were for scoring or losing, one clearly less prestigious than the other, obviously requiring losing to claim it's lower hanging fruit and without the balance of showing who got the the more traditional league points on offer that the full points league table qualify it with.


BPs
Wasps 11
Worcester 11
Bath 10
Leicester 9
Quins 8
Gloucester 8
Exeter 8
London Welsh 7
Northampton 6
Saracens 5
London Irish 4
Sale 4

TBPs
Leicester 5 from 13 wins
Saracens 4 from 15
Harlequins 4 from 12
Northampton 4 from 12
Wasps 4 from 9
Bath 3 from 9
Exeter 3 from 9
Worcester 3 from 5
Gloucester 1 from 11
London Irish 1 from 6
Sale 1 from 5
London Welsh 0 from 4

LBPs
Worcester 8 from 13 losses
Gloucester 7 from 7
Bath 7 from 9
Wasps 7 from 10
London Welsh 7 from 15
Exeter 5 from 9
Leicester 4 from 5
Harlequins 4 from 7
London Irish 3 from 12
Sale 3 from 13
Northampton 2 from 7
Saracens 1 from 3

[LondonTiger]

Player of the Year voting:

http://www.leicestertigers.com/voting

[Portnoy's Complaint]

Tom Youngs
Graham Kitchener
Adam Thompstone
Martin Castrogiovanni

[nathan]

We're not having the best of games, we've made breaks but we don't seem to be anywhere as clinical as last game.

[nathan]

11 nil to tigers. Flood having an off day with the boot.

[nathan]

Try!

Conversion missed again by flood.

16-nil to tigers

[nathan]

Wade coming off, shame to see him leave the pitch.

[nathan]

16 - 3 to the tigers

[nathan]

Twit showing some more nice touches.

[nathan]

Push over try for the tigers. 3rd try with 35 minutes gone.

[nathan]

Flood hits the post with his conversion

[formerly known as Sam]

A number if our players look knackered. Matt Tait isn't one of them, he's on fire.

Would like to see the Harrison/Ford combo come on at half time along with Waldrom just to freshen things up a tad. I'm just glad Parling, Tom and Crofty have all been given a break.

[nathan]

If tait keeps up these performances I can see his going on tour with England.

[HammerofThunor]

Hope not. Decent pre-season, including rest is probably good for him. Given that we have 3 decent full backs playing England and none of them probably going on Lions it's unlikely

[formerly known as Sam]

Foden is miles off form and should be nowhere near an England shirt. Think he needs to show more continued form if he wants to leapfrog Goode and Brown though.

[Rugby Fan]

Hope not. Decent pre-season, including rest is probably good for him. Given that we have 3 decent full backs playing England and none of them probably going on Lions it's unlikely

If I was a Leicester supporter, I`d want him to have a decent pre-season. As an England supporter, I want him on tour. He covers wing, centre and full-back. With Delon Armitage off in France, we don`t have another player with that mix of skills right now.

[nathan]

just turned the radio on as I had to go out, whats the score?

[Rugby Fan]

28-6 to Leicester. Tigers have made some subs and Wasps now have a penalty chance.

[Rugby Fan]

Daly has just made it 28-9

[nathan]

cool thanks, have things started to go wrong now we've made the subs?

[Rugby Fan]

cool thanks, have things started to go wrong now we've made the subs?

Not disastrously so, but Wasps have looked a bit brighter since the changes. Tigers are still in command.

[nathan]

cool thanks, have things started to go wrong now we've made the subs?

Not disastrously so, but Wasps have looked a bit brighter since the changes. Tigers are still in command.

cool thanks, sometimes it's hard to gauge when listening to the radio.

[Rugby Fan]

Thompstone just went over for a try. Having crossed at the corner, he then ran around to make for an easier conversion. He was off-balance, though, and his feet danced dangerously close to the dead ball line. The ref called for a TMO review but he just stayed in.

[nathan]

lets see what Ford can do

[nathan]

I can see J. Simpson getting a try

[Rugby Fan]

Blimey, Elliot Daly looks very useful. You could make up a complete England back-line out of full-backs right now.

9. Foden
10. Goode
11. Brown
12. Tait
13. Daly
14. Monye (Ok, a bit of a stretch)
15. Abendanon

[nathan]

Blimey, Elliot Daly looks very useful. You could make up a complete England back-line out of full-backs right now.

9. Foden
10. Goode
11. Brown
12. Tait
13. Daly
14. Monye (Ok, a bit of a stretch)
15. Abendanon

On the radio they were calling for Thompstone.

[Beaker]

Blimey, Elliot Daly looks very useful. You could make up a complete England back-line out of full-backs right now.

9. Foden
10. Goode
11. Brown
12. Tait
13. Daly
14. Monye (Ok, a bit of a stretch)
15. Abendanon

Substitute May for Monye and I'm with you. Though i'd toy with moving Bendy to wing and Brown to f/b. I just think that Abendanon's skill-set is perfect for the wing

[king_carlos]

Blimey, Elliot Daly looks very useful. You could make up a complete England back-line out of full-backs right now.

9. Foden
10. Goode
11. Brown
12. Tait
13. Daly
14. Monye (Ok, a bit of a stretch)
15. Abendanon

Don't forger Luke Arscott as well - he's been exceptional for Exeter.

9.Foden 10.Goode 11.Brown 12.Daly 13.Tait 14.Abendanon 15.Arscott

The strength in depth at FB is pretty impressive, it's just a shame that Brown isn't being given a run at 15 when he's been the most impressive of the lot!

[yappysnap]

Slater will definitely be touring to Argentina, another class game against Wasps. At the moment he's looking like he should be starting for England alongside Parling, gives a bit more balance to the engine room as well taking out a little athleticism a bringing a whole load more power.

[Hound of Harrow]

Congrats Tiggers. We were well beaten, and produced a thoroughly inept display, especially in the first half.

[yappysnap]

Hound, should probably ask this outside of the Tiggers thread but are Wasps signing up new forwards? As to me that's where you really need it, loads of ball runners but no real muscle to work in tight at the moment.

[Hound of Harrow]

yappy - Matt Mullan is the biggest 'name' we have signed as a forward. Most of our signings have been backs (e.g. Goode and Carlisle) to cover the loss of Stephen Jones (retiring) and Nicky Robinson (off to Bris).

[Jimpy]

Wasps are lucky Cockers rested key players and substituted half the squad by the 60 minute point - that could have been even more embarassing...

[LondonTiger]

Any news on Matt Tait's contract talks?

[nathan]

Any news on Matt Tait's contract talks?

i'll investigate!

[broadlandboy]

It has been said that he has a new 2 year contract

[formerly known as Sam]

Simon Cohen confirmed they'd agreed terms on a new two year deal, then again Twelvetrees agreed terms on a two year deal...

Can't see it being an issue, Tigers have brought Tait back from the brink of retirement and given his career a much needed boost. Tait is starting to look capable of taking over from Geordan. Shouldn't be any complications as both sides need the other.

[Hound of Harrow]

Wasps are lucky Cockers rested key players and substituted half the squad by the 60 minute point - that could have been even more embarassing...

It might have escaped your notice that Wasps were missing 7 usual starters through injury (2 of whom have captained this season) and needed to rest Launchbury and Masi, who were knackered.

Losing Robinson and Wade early in the game didn't help either.

We were expecting nowt from that game, given the team we put out. Watching on the box I was pleased that our decimated pack won two scrum penalties.

A phyrric victory I know but.

[formerly known as Sam]

That young TH Taylor seems to have something about him. Should be a keeper.

Wasps team on the day was pretty weak and the game was therefore a formality. We'll see if that gamble pays off next week.

[Hound of Harrow]

Yeah Sam. While Dai Young cited a number of injuries, it was the weakest team we have fielded outside of the LV= and Mogliano in the Amlin.

Was this weekend one of the EPS mandatory rest weekends. It used to be that EPS players could only play 120 minutes over 3 stipulated weekends. It might explain why we rested Launchbury (Masi deserved a week off anyway) and Croft and Parling were absent too?

I can't believe that would be the case at the business end of the season though - i.e. hampering play off/HC ambitions.

PS - great b*lls shown by Tigers in Toulon. Definitely had the 'moneybags' rattled. Disappointed for you guys last weekend. Good luck for the rest of the season.

[formerly known as Sam]

Ta. Croft was only 50/50 as was Tom Youngs, as soon as Wasps announced their squad Tigers decided it wasn't worth the risk. Worth resting Parling as well, Kitchener is a good 5 and needed some game time. Subbing the likes of Benny and Cole early made sense. Good to get Mafi 40 mins as well.

Really helped us Wasps targeting the Chiefs. There must have been a lot of bruises after the brave defence against Toulon.

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