aston villa thread

by jimmyinthewell68 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 1:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

well after the terrible frustrating long ball defend defend mcleash season ,villa have now a good prospect in Paul Lambert . when Martin oNeil left i was at first gutted like many villa fans but then when u add up all the average players he bought along with high wages then u can see why learner decided enough was enough .so Martin walked out . next come along gerard houllier a few weeks late in the season . lots of villa fans didnt take to him because of the early results but i liked the way we played under him and when he bought Darren bent and the players settled in his style of play we rocketed up the league .even beating Liverpool in revenge after that 4 nil beating and his infamous badly chosen words that didnt sit well with villa fans .poor health parted another manager . then come Alex .no more needs to be said on that . so now we have Paul . a few good signings come in and i for one now feels we can compete in cup games and perhaps a eighth position in league .

by jimmyinthewell68 Thu 02 Jan 2014, 5:01 pm

transfer window will be interesting . do they back him or sack him . i really think he would have gone if we lost against Sunderland . well done to cardiff on their New appointed manager . looking forward seeing what he can do because we nearly appointed him too but he decided to stay in norway and we had Lambert instead

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 02 Jan 2014, 10:49 pm

Kozak broken leg. Out for the season

by westisbest Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:10 am

Real shame.

We're pretty thin up front now.

Surely Helenius wont go out on loan, unless Lambert brings in a forward.

by **Galted** Fri 03 Jan 2014, 9:37 am

No great surprise but it doesn't bode too well for tomorrow:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25579811

by westisbest Fri 03 Jan 2014, 10:14 am

He should'nt be saying that.

May as well go for it and get as far as we can.

Yes the premiership is more important, but the FA cup is a great tournament and we should be doing our best to progress.

Sheff Utd will be up for it.
His comments will have annoyed some Villa fans.
If we lose then, he may not be to botherd, but the fans will.

Lets see who Lambert brings in this window.

by jimmyinthewell68 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 10:41 am

benteke agent said the striker will not be going anywhere this January .

by mystiroakey Fri 03 Jan 2014, 10:42 am

To be fair no one would buy him anyway

by jimmyinthewell68 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 1:28 pm

yeah that's true . four goals this season so far not good but he has been injured

by mystiroakey Fri 03 Jan 2014, 1:34 pm

Well i dont understand why no one went for him in the summer.. Top player- but if no one bothered when he was in tip top form, why will they today?

by westisbest Fri 03 Jan 2014, 5:34 pm

I'm sure he would get some offers.

Just having a bad spell.

Its good for us though, cos i'm sure it wont be long till he scores again, then bang, the tekkers of last season will be back.

by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 7:34 pm

Just got back from Villa Park and wow.

The fella I went with has been moaning about how bad Villa have been all season but even I didn't think they could be that bad. They were atrocious.

Benkeke - unless he had the ball played to feet - wouldn't even look like running 5 yards. The appetite looks to have well and truly gone there. The rest of the side bar Albrighton (he at least tried) were shocking as well. I wish I had a pound for every overhit pass and wasted diagonal ball. I'd be able to buy a yacht and a pint with the leftovers.

Fans around the dugout area were throwing ripped up tickets at Lambert and the local radio phone in was littered with disgruntled fans calling for his head. I don't care for Lambert either way but him saying that Sheffield Utd didn't deserve the win was embarrassing. Utd more than earned that win.

You're always going to get a shock or two but that - in retrospect - wasn't even a shock. I do wonder how Villa have 23 points in the PL. Not sure how Lambert is going to take that side forward because he'll need a shed load of money to throw at his "project."

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 04 Jan 2014, 8:40 pm

I like Lambert, and in more stable times I'd like him at West Ham, but he doesnt seem to have any other idea than "play youngsters, hope for best". Its like the fact he was question has made him more stubborn

by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 8:57 pm

He seems to be well on the way to alienating the local press and media also. He said that the guy that reported that he found the FA Cup a distraction admitted he regretted reporting it in the first place. I think that makes sense?!

The said guy said he only regretted publishing it because the Aston Villa press office have been giving him a hard time ever since.

My take is this: The FA Cup is a distraction to the majority of teams involved but at least stand by your convictions and admit what you said.

Apparently Wes Hoolahan is the answer to all Villa's prayers. The natives are restless.

by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 8:59 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I like Lambert, and in more stable times I'd like him at West Ham

You wearing thin of Sam yet Chris?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 04 Jan 2014, 10:27 pm

FreekShow wrote:

You're always going to get a shock or two but that - in retrospect - wasn't even a shock. I do wonder how Villa have 23 points in the PL. Not sure how Lambert is going to take that side forward because he'll need a shed load of money to throw at his "project."

How do Villa have 23 points in the Prem you ask?

Because Paul Lambert is a bloody good manager is the answer.

Injuries are killing Villa ATM.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 04 Jan 2014, 10:56 pm

He's decent, but stubborn and I still think he refuses to acknowledge his shortcoming or mistakes. And I dont mean publicly, I mean in selection and transfers. Big weakness

by westisbest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 11:08 pm

He's not that good a manager in the premiership olly.

Yeas he did well to get you there from the lower leagues.

Injuries are not killing us, its the poor players and his bad management.

I dont mind the guy, but patience has run out with him for a lot of Villa fans.

Since MON left when we finished 6th and 2 trips to wembley in a season, it has has gone downhill.

It has come to something when staying up is seen as an achievement.

Those days of finishing as high as 6th and wembley trips are just good memories and i don't think we will see them anytime soon.

Sorry you wasted your money on todays rubbish freek.

by Guest Sat 04 Jan 2014, 11:16 pm

westisbest wrote:He's not that good a manager in the premiership olly.

Yeas he did well to get you there from the lower leagues.

Sorry you wasted your money on todays rubbish freek.

This seems to be the thinking amongst the Villa faithful.

The good thing (for Lambert at least) is that he's not linked in anyway to Birmingham City.

Not a waste of money Westy. 15 quid for the ticket as a neutral is decent. I had a good day.

Football for all Hug

by mystiroakey Sat 04 Jan 2014, 11:19 pm

I like Lambert. But something isn't right at the moment that is for sure. But still going well in the pl. I expect him to stay and them to get top 12

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 05 Jan 2014, 3:15 pm

westisbest wrote:He's not that good a manager in the premiership olly.

Yeas he did well to get you there from the lower leagues.

Injuries are not killing us, its the poor players and his bad management.

I dont mind the guy, but patience has run out with him for a lot of Villa fans.

Since MON left when we finished 6th and 2 trips to wembley in a season, it has has gone downhill.

It has come to something when staying up is seen as an achievement.

Those days of finishing as high as 6th and wembley trips are just good memories and i don't think we will see them anytime soon.

Sorry you wasted your money on todays rubbish freek.

Harsh I think Westy, you're 11th, only 4 pts behind Saints (who are percieved to be having a great season), and this is without Benteke finding any form, Okore being out for the season and other injuries.

If he wasn't a Premier League manager he wouldn't have taken us to 12th in the league with players like Elliott Ward, Zak Whitbread, Steve Morison, Aaron Wilbraham, Adam Drury, Simeon Jackson etc etc.

The guy is doing a rebuilding job, the reason MON got you up there was because he was paying ridiculous fees and wages, which continued under McLeish etc (ie. the Bent transfer). Lerner doesn't want to run it like that no more, and Lambert's been tasked with turning over the squad, and rebuilding. It ain't gonna happen overnight.

Temper those expectations Villa fans. Would be an error of epic proportions to sack Lambert. Epic proportions

by westisbest Wed 15 Jan 2014, 9:07 am

So our first january signing is Grant Holt.

Not exactly what I was hoping for.
Will support him and hope he does well though.

Midfielder & centre back is whats needed.

Rumours of Hoolahan haves cooled down.
Defour rumour still on going.

by westisbest Tue 28 Jan 2014, 11:41 am

Just watching 1000 Villa premiership goals.

On the 92/93 season. Christ what a squad we had then.

Spink, Barrett, Staunton, McGrath, Teale.
Parker, Richardson, Townsend, Froggart,
Atkinson, Saunders, Yorke.

Nobody could touch us.

by westisbest Tue 28 Jan 2014, 11:50 am

Some cracking goals.

god gone down hill in 20 plus years.

by jimmyinthewell68 Wed 29 Jan 2014, 11:17 pm

4-3 . brilliant come back from two down .

by westisbest Thu 30 Jan 2014, 8:10 am

Great win indeed.

Great for the confidence to.

Tekkers back to his scoring ways, having scored in our last 3 league games.

Delph's goal(not the own goal Wink

) cracking strike.
Been top draw this season.

Roll on the toffee men.

by westisbest Tue 04 Feb 2014, 11:24 am

So Lambert is getting a new 3 year deal. Hmm.

I cant believe he does'nt give Gary Gardner a run out.
He was playing well before his injury.

Yet he plays KEA and even puts Sylla on the bench.
Crazy sh1t.

by westisbest Tue 11 Feb 2014, 9:46 pm

Very frustrating.

Should have won that, silly missed chances.

by westisbest Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:55 pm

Gary Gardner gone on loan to Sheffield Wednesday.

Hoped he would have been given a go this season.

Hope he does well there, comes back and gets a go in the team.

by Rowley Thu 13 Feb 2014, 1:04 pm

Hope you're not suggesting he should be higher up the pecking order than Sylla westi.

by westisbest Thu 13 Feb 2014, 2:17 pm

Course not Sylla is our secret weapon in our late bid for top 6. Smile

by westisbest Mon 03 Mar 2014, 9:17 am

Great win yesterday. Much needed.

Good to see Tekkers back amongst the goals.

Bacuna scoring another good goal .He has done pretty well, this season.

Should be playing further up the pitch, but did well yesterday.

by westisbest Wed 26 Mar 2014, 3:58 pm

Well we were very poor sunday.

Man Utd away saturday, another home defeat for them last night.

We will have to defend much better, or we may take a hiding.

Improve the defending, could well take a point, or with a bit of luck, sneak a win.

Big game game at home to Fulham following saturday.

by mystiroakey Wed 26 Mar 2014, 4:45 pm

man united are begining to play better- i know it may not seem that way and that defeat may have pushed them back. but on the road they are decent still.. A draw will be a quality result- but either way you lot are safe- so its a bit of an anti climax for you from here on in

by westisbest Wed 26 Mar 2014, 5:59 pm

If we lose, other teams, will pick up points, so will be even closer.

Our remaining games are.

Man Utd a
Fulham h
Palace a
Saints h
Swansea a
Hull h
Spurs a

Also the rearranged Man City away game.

I think we will be safe, but it could be nervy again if teams below us are picking up points.

by mystiroakey Wed 26 Mar 2014, 6:01 pm

you are looking at 7 pts minimum there- thats 41 pts- the maths makes it impossible for 3 teams to hit that amount.

even 4 more should do it for you this year

by westisbest Wed 26 Mar 2014, 7:23 pm

yeah, think 4-5 points may be enough.

Looking to get points against Fulham, Palace, Hull.

Hope we beat Saints at home, do the double over them.

Eases the pain of having to pay my Saints mate £20, as they will finish higher than us.

by westisbest Thu 27 Mar 2014, 5:14 pm

Just seen our game away to Man City has been rearranged for wednesday may 7th

by westisbest Sun 30 Mar 2014, 7:24 pm

Watched the highlights of yesterdays game.

Hmm, no surprise at the poor defending.

Benteke needs to be putting those chances away.

Need to bounce back next saturday against Fulham.

by kwinigolfer Thu 03 Apr 2014, 4:53 pm

westi,
One of the most promising players to run across my TV screen last season was Matt Lowton - it seemed he only had to make normal progress to be in the England conversation behind, or challenging, Glen Johnson.
What's happened to him? Is he injured, having lifestyle problems, misbehaving or just lost form? He gave Villa balance last year, something they're not really getting from the back four this season.

Perhaps you could loan him to PFC?

by westisbest Thu 03 Apr 2014, 5:07 pm

He was one of our best players last season.

Good young player. Thought he was going to play every game pretty much bar injuries.

This is the thing that annoys me about Lambert. He's playing Bacuna, who I think has had a decent first season in english football.

But he's not a right back, much better further up the field.

Must be some sort of falling out, although Lambert has denied this.

Think he would have gone on to be a better player this season, but he choses to play Bacuna.

Interesting to see if he starts in our remaining games.

Bit like Albrighton who is another young decent player.
Overlooked him for a long time, good to see him playing.

We can loan you Yacuba Sylla & KEA Very Happy

How is Drennan doing?

Really hope he does well. Very good player for our U21's.
Hope to see him on the bench for the first team soon. Although he may need to be loaned out next season, or some of it.

by kwinigolfer Thu 03 Apr 2014, 7:00 pm

Bacuna can be all over the place defensively - thought Lowton did a decent job there, plus offered something going forward.
Perhaps Bacuna can go centre-forward now there's an opening there. Lambert must be feeling a little queasy just now. Belgium too.

Anyway, hope Lowton gets himself back in favour. You can keep Sylla etc. Not sure about Drennan, but it's a difficult situation there for a young player coming in - good luck to him anyway.

by westisbest Tue 08 Apr 2014, 1:45 pm

westisbest wrote:yeah, think 4-5 points may be enough.

Looking to get points against Fulham, Palace, Hull.

Hope we beat Saints at home, do the double over them.

Eases the pain of having to pay my Saints mate £20, as they will finish higher than us.

Ok, so thats one game that I thought we may get something and did'nt.

by mystiroakey Tue 08 Apr 2014, 2:13 pm

Big game westy! Palace v Villa

I will take the draw- and I think thats all we both need!!

by westisbest Tue 08 Apr 2014, 2:20 pm

Think you will win 2-0.

our run in after sat is

Saints h (which i'm going to) l
Swansea a d
Hull w/d/l can see any of those
Man City a l
Spurs a l.

At best can see us getting 4 points which would put us on 38, which will be enough i'm sure.

by mystiroakey Tue 08 Apr 2014, 2:24 pm

That's a pretty decent run in you have. Cant see you not staying up.

Palace may only grind out a few draws in the run in at worst- but that will also be enough.

Its all well and good keeping clean sheets - but you have to score- and its rare as hens teeth to win 2-0 for palace

Unless puncheon keeps his form up off course- But as a palace fan you dread that he will get injured within the next couple of days.

by westisbest Tue 08 Apr 2014, 4:34 pm

He's done really well for you(despite that pen).

We dont score enough goals.

Can see you keeping a clean sheet(but hope you dont Very Happy

).

by westisbest Wed 16 Apr 2014, 8:29 am

Cowans and Given have been promoted to assistant manager.

After Culverhouse and Karsa were suspended.

Cowans is a legend and Given most experienced player.

We are deep trouble, we dont need this kind of distraction.

Hopefully now we can concentrate on getting 3 points against Saints.

by westisbest Tue 22 Apr 2014, 2:46 pm

Much needed point saturday, althrough from what I remember of the game(was pretty peed by kick off), was a poor game.

Cant see us getting anything saturday, so will again have to rely on the like of Norwich, Fulham losing.

by jimmyinthewell68 Thu 24 Apr 2014, 9:08 am

only a couple games to save our skin . learner obviously selling the club but no one wants to commit with relegation looming . so what exactly have Culverhouse and Karsa been up too . its sounds like bullying . Culverhouse usual name . sounds something out of game of thrones . house of Culver . sorry if you dont watch it and dont know the hell Im talking about . Very Happy

by westisbest Thu 24 Apr 2014, 9:17 am

I dont:)

Think bullying.

Players not liking the way training was going.

Hope we can get something saturday, be tricky.

Sad thing is we're gonna continue to be in this position again if things dont change.

Lerner can go, has no interest.
Lamberts time is up to.

Cant see us improving under him.

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