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Post by anotherworldofpain Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:37 pm

Why do pundits and commentators think that if they say "Without sounding like the cliche" before a cliche, it makes it less of a cliche?

In fact, saying "Without sounding like a cliche" is a cliche. If anything, it just makes the cliche to follow more cliched.

Without sounding like a cliche, I'm sick of all these cliches.


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Post by HammerofThunor Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:33 pm

At the end of the day it's a game of two halves. If you earn the right to go wide you'll be fine.

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Post by Barney McGrew did it Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:01 pm

Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.

No offence.
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Post by Biltong Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:06 pm

They won the match with their last try. Shocked
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Post by mystiroakey Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:34 pm

there is only one rugby cliche that really truely winds me up because it is specific with the game..

It depends what France turns up!!!

drives me mad that one lol

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Post by mowgli Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:18 pm

On their day Wales can beat anyone at cliches

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Post by Mr Fishpaste Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:27 pm

South African Sports Captains are all instructed in the art of constructing interviews entirely from cliches: eg. We got good go-forward, the boys stepped up to the plate, they really put their hands up, and gave 110%...pretty much sums up every post match inerview I've heard.

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Post by gowales Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:14 am

Yea definitely (type it into youtube if you don't know what i mean)


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Post by doctor_grey Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:40 am

I think it would be funny to hear post match comments such as "We were feckin fantastic today. We went out to kick thier 'A' and, damn, we just stuck the ball up their rump all match long. They sucked. Their players suck, their coaches suck, their women suck. Could have beaten them today with one testicle tied behind my back."

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Post by gregortree Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:45 am

" on their day ..."

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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:48 am

doctor_grey wrote:I think it would be funny to hear post match comments such as "We were feckin fantastic today. We went out to kick thier 'A' and, damn, we just stuck the ball up their rump all match long. They sucked. Their players suck, their coaches suck, their women suck. Could have beaten them today with one testicle tied behind my back."

Did you ever see the controversial winning speech by Darren Lockyer in the Bronco's 1993 NRL final win over St George? He took the microphone and start to shout "St George Can't Play!" at the top of his voice over and over.

Only an Aussie...

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Post by mckay1402 Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:51 am

Have I missed something or has AWOP suddenly become very good at English?
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:52 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:Why do pundits and commentators think that if they say "Without sounding like the cliche" before a cliche, it makes it less of a cliche?

In fact, saying "Without sounding like a cliche" is a cliche. If anything, it just makes the cliche to follow more cliched.

Without sounding like a cliche, I'm sick of all these cliches.

It's a bit like starting a sentence with "Without meaning any disrespect, ..." then going on to disrespect someone - the same applies with the use of the word "rude" in that circumstance - always amuses me

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:52 am

"Did you ever see the controversial winning speech by Darren Lockyer in
the Bronco's 1993 NRL final win over St George? He took the microphone
and start to shout "St George Can't Play!" at the top of his voice over
and over.

Only an Aussie..."

lol yeah thats spot on

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:53 am

mckay1402 wrote:Have I missed something or has AWOP suddenly become very good at English?
The lessons were bound to pay off at some point OK

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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:56 am

Is some learning process. Don't be alarmed. If you apply yourself to the laws about rugby you might learn those too ASBO! Hug

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Post by gregortree Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:56 am

I loved Brendan Ventners interview of clichés:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FgchHlaSQE

Talk about taking the p#@s
Brendan being passively ironic to the sport administrators, over criticism of a previously 'outspoken' apparently, interview ! hahahah !

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Post by LordDowlais Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:57 am

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:
mckay1402 wrote:Have I missed something or has AWOP suddenly become very good at English?
The lessons were bound to pay off at some point OK

I was just thinking this myself until I scrolled down to your post and hey presto, you already said it. Ale

P.s Well done on improving your grammar AWOP.

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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:59 am

Now I get more comfortable about English I am starting to learn Welsh language.

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Post by LordDowlais Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:07 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:Now I get more comfortable about English I am starting to learn Welsh language.

Good luck, if you need to know anything just give me a shout. OK

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:46 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:Is some learning process. Don't be alarmed. If you apply yourself to the laws about rugby you might learn those too ASBO! Hug
God forbid, AWOP! How else could I support my outrageous claims without blind ignorance and one-eyed narrow-mindedness? Wink

Oh, hang on, I'm not Welsh! censored Just kidding!

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Post by George Carlin Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:20 am

It's another one of your threads where your English language skills appear to improve exponentially, AnotherWorld.

I can only presume that performance-enhancing drugs are responsible.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:23 am

One of the stupidest things you hear (and not just in rugby) is when a team concede a score just before half time and the commentator says that it's the 'worst time' to concede a score. Actually, isn't it quite a good time to concede (if you're going to concede at all), seeing as you're just about to go in to the changing rooms for team talk? It lets you know what you're up against, whereas if you were to concede just after half time, you'd have gone into the changing rooms a few minutes earlier thinking you were the cat's miaow and had nothing to worry about.

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Post by gregortree Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:27 am

AWOP: Biltong might be willing to teach you some Afrikaans

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:27 am

biltongbek wrote:They won the match with their last try. Shocked

best one was "they had scored the match winning try moments early only to lose in the dying minutes to a heart breaking drop goal" (or something to that effect)
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Post by beshocked Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:28 am

gregortree wrote:I loved Brendan Ventners interview of clichés:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FgchHlaSQE

Talk about taking the p#@s
Brendan being passively ironic to the sport administrators, over criticism of a previously 'outspoken' apparently, interview ! hahahah !

This was actually a parody of Mike Bassett England manager.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzZ2cf-3R7Q

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:29 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
biltongbek wrote:They won the match with their last try. Shocked

best one was "they had scored the match winning try moments early only to lose in the dying minutes to a heart breaking drop goal" (or something to that effect)

That was Phil Waugh, wasn't it?

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:32 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:
biltongbek wrote:They won the match with their last try. Shocked

best one was "they had scored the match winning try moments early only to lose in the dying minutes to a heart breaking drop goal" (or something to that effect)

That was Phil Waugh, wasn't it?

Yeah that was it. I wanted to put down who said it, but I just couldn't remember
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Post by Mickado Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:47 am

Cometh the hour, cometh the cliche.

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Post by George Carlin Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:50 am

And why do losses apparently become palatable "at the end of the day".

What happens then, exactly?

The other one I like is "we're here to win matches".

As opposed to just enjoying wrestling with grown men in skintight sportswear?
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:19 pm

Here's one for the moral victors, 'we won on the park but not on the scoreboard'...mmm, that's a loss I'm afraid. And most losing coaches are always 'proud of the boys'.

YouTube vid (volume)...SCW lions post match interview

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Post by Biltong Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:36 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
biltongbek wrote:They won the match with their last try. Shocked

best one was "they had scored the match winning try moments early only to lose in the dying minutes to a heart breaking drop goal" (or something to that effect)
Laugh Yeah, that's probably the best one.
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Post by Biltong Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:38 pm

Going a bit off topic, but this one always amazes me.

"You always find it in the last place you look"

Doh

Of course, why would you keep searching once you found it?
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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:40 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
anotherworldofpain wrote:Now I get more comfortable about English I am starting to learn Welsh language.

Good luck, if you need to know anything just give me a shout. OK

Thanks! Could you tell me the welsh phrase to get started for "On our day"? It seem to get used most frequently Hug

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:41 pm

biltongbek wrote:Going a bit off topic, but this one always amazes me.

"You always find it in the last place you look"

Doh

Of course, why would you keep searching once you found it?

Whenever I'd lost something when I was younger, my dad would ask, "where did you last see it?" Well if I knew that, it wouldn't be lost!

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:43 pm

I remember calling up my phone insurance (well actually i have made 30 plus claims on broken,lost and stolen phones)- they allways ask if its a case of lost- where did you lose it- lol. I allways say if i knew that i wouldnt have lost it

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:50 pm

mystiroakey wrote:I remember calling up my phone insurance (well actually i have made 30 plus claims on broken,lost and stolen phones)- they allways ask if its a case of lost- where did you lose it- lol. I allways say if i knew that i wouldnt have lost it

That depends. The last phone I lost had Google Lattitude enabled. So I was able to say that it fell out of my pocket in a minicab, and the last trace location was in Neasden. So I know it was either "lifted" by the cabbie, or the passenger he picked up after me Sad

Of course, the phone I lost either in a Melbourne Airport transit lounge, or on the plane between there and Dubai, or a Dubai transit lounge is in a much bigger "haystack"
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Post by mystiroakey Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:55 pm

I once lost a phone in an amsterdam , I made out i lost it in a pub, you can guess where i actually lost it...............................................

Sometimes they really push you on the details!

what i hate is waiting about in a police station to get the crime or lost report!!

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:07 pm

I once lost my phone- called up the insurance told them i must have lost it near or on a golf course on the south coast. However a day or two later i was walking past a local street and heard a phone ringing- i found my original phone covered in gravy inside a kfc bargain bucket stuck up a tree! My mind was blank as to what happened. I was obviously spiked the night of the incident or something!

The phone company also told me my phone couldnt work because they had blocked it- did they fk!! but anyway i wouldnt have found it otherwise

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Post by Biltong Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:10 pm

I drove over my phone once, and decided I better make sure it is "uneconomical to repair" so I reversed just to make sure. Whistle
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Post by mystiroakey Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:13 pm

Actually i have driven over my phone at a services in europe on a motorway- i went up two junctions before realising i had lost my phone- i went back to the services and found it- but upon finding it i ran over the darn thing!!!

Nice work tho bilty - you gotta make sure the phone is well and truely knackered, Its all about getting the quick relacemnet and a nice new phone, rather than waiting a month or two on repair

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Post by Biltong Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:23 pm

Precisely, now if I can just get my HD decoder sorted out, the bloody thing is ver slow these days, I have insurance on it so it can be replaced, but it has happened twice now where I take it in and then have to wait for them to "service" it.

Wonder how I will explain driving over that though. chin
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Post by mystiroakey Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:25 pm

ermmm just throw it across the room and say your dog pushed the table it was on over

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Post by Biltong Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:25 pm

That will have to be a big dog though.
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Post by mystiroakey Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:27 pm

You could say you had a massive dog- but if a loss adjuster comes to your house just tell him you were so annoyed with your doggy that you shot him

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:27 pm

Jeepers, you get up to some mischief there oakey.

I havnt lost a ph, but every Christmas we take all our non-working gadgets down to my in-laws' rural residence, string them up on a fence, and blow them up with a shotgun. Good fun, makes you feel better about wasting all that money.

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Post by Biltong Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:29 pm

That's an idea EBOP, if you send me your shotgun I can say I accidentally shot the thing.

I'll have to do an affidavit though to say I really, really wasn't angry when it happened.
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Post by mystiroakey Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:35 pm

Yeah just say a lion got in your house bilt and you went to shoot it but missed and hit your HD thingy

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Post by Biltong Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:36 pm

We do live in a nature estate and the eco estate is surrounding us, but the most dangerous wild animal they have is a blouwildebeest.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:38 pm

Sure thing biltong, get some witnesses around to say it was just an accident. At the end of the day, these things happen, she'll be right buddy thumbsup

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