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Post by Biltong Mon 20 Aug 2012, 6:50 pm

South Africa batting

Amla: 482 runs- Average 120.5- 2 centuries
Smith: 272 runs - Average 54.4 - 1 century, 2 fifties
Kallis: 262 runs - Average 65.5 - 1 century
Peterson: 244 runs - Average 61 - 1 century
De Villiers: 161 runs - Average 40.25
Rudolph: 141 runs - Average 35.25 - 1 fifty
Duminy: 135 runs - Average 67.5 - 1 fifty
Philander: 115 runs - Average 28.75 - 1 fifty

England batting.

Prior: 275 runs - Average 45.83 - 3 fifties
Pietersen: 219 runs - Average 54.75 - 1 century
Trott: 217 runs - Average 43.4 - 2 fifties
Cook 195 runs - Average 32.5 - 1 century
Bairstow: 149 runs - Average 74.5 - 2 fifties
Bell: 144 runs - Average 28.8 - 2 fifties
Strauss: 107 runs - Average 17.83
Swann: 100 runs - Average 50

South Africa bowling.

Steyn: 15 wickets - Average 29.2
Philander: 12 wickets - Average 23.66
Morkel: 11 wickets - Average 34.54
Tahir: 7 wickets - Average 47.25
Kallis: 4 wickets - Average 45
Duminy: 1 wicket - Average 28

England bowling.

Broad: 11 wickets - Average 39.72
Finn: 10 wickets - Average 32.2
Anderson: 9 wickets - Average 40.66
Pietersen: 4 wickets - Average 22.75
Swann: 4 wickets - Average 77
Bresnan: 2 wickets - Average 139

It seems to me at least when you look at the bowling figures it was definitely tough for them during the series and definitely not really spin friendly.
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Post by KP_fan Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:04 pm

my top 3 players from eitehr side:

1) Philander
2) Amla
3) Bairstow...ok he played only one test....but the boots he was filling were huge, the pressure immesne and match situation very tense... high quality temperament


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Post by Galted Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:09 pm

Think Prior deserves a mention in a top 3, he was immense all through.

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Post by Liam Mon 20 Aug 2012, 7:16 pm

Its amazing how well Prior has performed for almost 2 years now. He seems to consistently score a 50 for England, even when they seem to be in trouble. The guy is completely selfless, a real team player and I think he deserves all the credit in the world.

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Post by ShankyCricket Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:18 pm

Well, this series should really put the Steyn vs Anderson debate to bed. Whilst I believe that Jimmy bowled better than his figures suggest, Steyn looked a cut above.

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Post by Shelsey93 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:29 pm

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:Well, this series should really put the Steyn vs Anderson debate to bed. Whilst I believe that Jimmy bowled better than his figures suggest, Steyn looked a cut above.

The debate on the two attacks as a whole has certainly been put to bed. We can now clearly say that South Africa have the best attack. England and Pakistan come next - just because they are spin based doesn't mean they aren't up there with the best.

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Post by msp83 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:36 pm

For me the debate has been about Anderson vs Zaheer and not so much about Steyn, He has been a cut above the rest for a very long time Jimmy reached that stage where they both could be brought together in such a debate only after the last ashes. Steyn is a real modern day great, Tendulkar, Lara, Warne, Murali, Steyn

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Post by msp83 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:38 pm

Doesn't mean Anderson isn't top class, He indeed is a very fine bowler, a world class performer, arguably the best of the rest along with Zaheer.

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Post by Shelsey93 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 8:48 pm

I'm not sure about Zaheer right now. Looked poor (though still the best Indian) in the Australia series - down on pace and even movement. I'll be interested to see how he goes v NZ and in particular England and Australia this winter.

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Post by DouglasJardinesbox Mon 20 Aug 2012, 9:15 pm

Philander is the new Steyn, the new Jimmy.

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Post by ShankyCricket Mon 20 Aug 2012, 10:15 pm

msp83 wrote:For me the debate has been about Anderson vs Zaheer and not so much about Steyn, He has been a cut above the rest for a very long time Jimmy reached that stage where they both could be brought together in such a debate only after the last ashes. Steyn is a real modern day great, Tendulkar, Lara, Warne, Murali, Steyn
Oh I agree! In fact, I have said exactly the same thing before.
But there has been a lot of Steyn vs Jimmy debate of late. Not that I agree with it as its a no contest for me.

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