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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 28 Aug 2012, 2:11 pm

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This fight intrigues me very very much. I will ignore the concerns over Dawson dropping weight and take it as granted he will be fit enough to perform.

Great fight between two top talents. So how does it go?

Things I have to consider are thus.

1. Ward is at home, and whether we like it or not, it matters. Home support always gives a fighter an edge.
2. Dawson dropping down and not moving up in weight is an issue (I lied when I said I wouldn't mention it). Moving up to face an non-puncher like Ward would be ok, but coming down may be an issue if he is drained. That said Ward's punch won't be a factor.
3. In-fighting. Ward is a master at it and as dirty as a Hookers treasure chest on a Sunday morn. He will likely do allt he things BHop was too old to do to Dawon on the inside.
4. Height, reach and power advantages are all Dawson's. These are no small advantages when used properly, but will Dawson use the properly.
5. Ward will be better mentally prepared than Dawson; he just will.

All in all I see this as an extremely competative fight, and one which I would favour Dawson to win in razor close fashion, if he knew how to maximise his talents. As it is, Ward's ring savvy and dogged determination will probably give him a majority decision win or razor close UD. Wouldn't be surpised to see cuts on Dawsons face from butts, and wouldn't at all be surprised if I was back on here complaining the day after about it.

All in all though, great fight.

Thoughts?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:51 pm

Ward, might be a bit closer than some think though.

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Post by Boxtthis Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:51 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Ward, might be a bit closer than some think though.

I too think it might be a close one. Dawson can be top notch when the mood takes him. I think it'll be Ward by close, but clear decision. But, I don't think it'll be much of an entertaining fight - one for the purists perhaps

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Post by mobilemaster8 Mon 03 Sep 2012, 10:53 am

Draw all day. Ward is filthier than a hookers underpants. Will spoil at every opportunity. Dawson will try to chase all night and will be handed headbutts on evey level. Scrappy fight with a little bit of action. Could go either way hence the draw pick from me.

On a separate note, i dislike ward hugely based on his annoying and boring style.


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Post by davidemore Mon 03 Sep 2012, 11:26 am

Ward got this if Chad doesn't throw and let's him work on the inside. If he uses his reach and throws combo's he can win.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Mon 03 Sep 2012, 1:45 pm

Dawson is merely a vulture. Ward will win this i'm 72% certain.
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Post by BoxingFan88 Mon 03 Sep 2012, 2:37 pm

Where would Ward jump on the mythical pound for pound rankings if he wins this one?

Its getting really difficult to separate the top 5.

-> Ward fights Dawson
-> Donaire fights Nishioka
-> Martinez fights Chavez Jr.

If Ward keeps this up he is going to usher Pacquiao and Mayweather from their perches. Who has a higher class of victories in their last 7 fights than Ward?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Mon 03 Sep 2012, 9:19 pm

Id say in the last 7 fights ....

Mayweather - cotto, ortiz, mosley, de la hoya, hatton, baldomir, marquez

He beats pacquiao last 7 easily

But mayweather on top.

Rate ward in top 5 p4p, 3rd in my view.

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Post by Bartley Gorman Tue 04 Sep 2012, 10:01 am

Anybody else heard the rumour about Dawson being sparked in sparring by Edison Miranda?

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Post by bellchees Tue 04 Sep 2012, 10:14 am

mobilemaster8 wrote:Id say in the last 7 fights ....

Mayweather - cotto, ortiz, mosley, de la hoya, hatton, baldomir, marquez

He beats pacquiao last 7 easily

But mayweather on top.

Rate ward in top 5 p4p, 3rd in my view.

You cant go back 7 fights to rank how good Mayweather currently is. I think beating Baldomir 6 years ago affects his current P4P in no way whatsoever.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 04 Sep 2012, 1:17 pm

Bartley Gorman wrote:Anybody else heard the rumour about Dawson being sparked in sparring by Edison Miranda?

Really?

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Post by Bartley Gorman Tue 04 Sep 2012, 1:20 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:
Bartley Gorman wrote:Anybody else heard the rumour about Dawson being sparked in sparring by Edison Miranda?

Really?

I follow this Karceno fella on twitter and im sure he had a link up about it. Was just double checking as i've not seen it anywhere else. Will have a scout around on my lunch break.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 04 Sep 2012, 1:23 pm

Stick a URL up if you find one mate! Interesting. Is there a 24/7 for Ward v Dawson?

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Post by Bartley Gorman Tue 04 Sep 2012, 3:08 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:Stick a URL up if you find one mate! Interesting. Is there a 24/7 for Ward v Dawson?

Cant view this at work so could be a hoax or failed attempt at banter:

http://www.boxingsocialist.com/profiles/blogs/edison-miranda-knocked-out-chad-dawson-in-sparring-watch-video

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue 04 Sep 2012, 4:29 pm

Yeh the video is not that good. Someone just says he did not get knocked out.

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Post by Boxtthis Tue 04 Sep 2012, 5:28 pm

Sounds like a bulls**t rumour to be honest. Haven't seen it anywhere else, apart from this guy on the link....who's thinks it's bulls**t!

Still, good to get some hype around this one. Two kind of understated guys, with kind of understated styles going against each other here. In terms of skill level it's a top class clash, but it'll take a backseat to fights like Martinez/Chavez because of the personalities involved.

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Post by Bartley Gorman Tue 04 Sep 2012, 5:32 pm

Boxtthis wrote:Sounds like a bulls**t rumour to be honest. Haven't seen it anywhere else, apart from this guy on the link....who's thinks it's bulls**t!

Still, good to get some hype around this one. Two kind of understated guys, with kind of understated styles going against each other here. In terms of skill level it's a top class clash, but it'll take a backseat to fights like Martinez/Chavez because of the personalities involved.

Yeah, as the fight gets closer im becoming more excited by it. Im just hoping that Dawson is 100% and we get a truly outstanding fight.

Like you said though, it'll take a backseat to the Martinez - Chavez fight due to the bad blood!

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