England v South Africa, 3rd ODI, The Oval

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England can snatch back the No.1 ODI Ranking with victory today and level the series but that will be unlikely with all the negative off-the-field drama that is happening. On the other hand, South Africa will be looking to cement their No.1 ODI ranking and go 2-0 up in the series. Should be a cracker of a game then.

England 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Ian Bell, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Ravi Bopara, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Craig Kieswetter (wk), 7 Samit Patel, 8 James Tredwell, 9 Jade Dernbach, 10 James Anderson, 11 Steve Finn.

South Africa 1 Graeme Smith, 2 Hashim Amla, 3 JP Duminy, 4 Dean Elgar, 5 AB de Villiers (capt, wk), 6 Faf du Plessis, 7 Wayne Parnell, 8 Robin Peterson, 9 Dale Steyn, 10 Morne Morkel, 11 Lonwabo Tsotsobe.

There is still enough runs required for SA to still have a chance.

Maiden over against Eoin Morgan.

Yeah but it was a decent over from Parnell.

Wot a SIX.

Morgan makes up for it! Huge 6!

Quality again from Mogs

England are pretty much back in control. They shouldn't do anything rash and just get on with it calmly.

Who will get to 50 first

Its Trott

Duty281 wrote:

msp83 wrote:

Duty281 wrote:

msp83 wrote:No dodgy decision, Bopara was out. Correct call from the umpire.

Based on the sound they got Bopara. I remember an incident 3 years ago where England didn't a decision based on sound. One rule for them and another for us I'm guessing.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/rsaveng09/content/story/444330.html

I can remember Rahul Dravid being given out based on sound last year. Guess against whom?

England? There was a loud sound and a mark on HotSpot if I remember rightly. How was the umpire to know he hit his shoelace and not the ball?

Just went away for a while and missed it.
The shoelace one wasn't even reviewed, it was another time during the same tour, Hotspot showed nothing even though there was a sound. Interestingly he was given out on an England review, Dravid later clarified he got a nick on it.

Trott may never have the highest SR but you cant fault him on the runs he makes

50 to Mogs

He has been the spear head in taking this match away from SA.

Both 50's Cakewalk now.

It would be nice to see both these boys at the end...

Mogs doing a KP to Steyn

skyeman wrote:Mogs doing a KP to Steyn

Must not comment on that

eirebilly wrote:

skyeman wrote:Mogs doing a KP to Steyn

Must not comment on that

No, we'll have the fan asking, "are you comparing mogs to the nut"

skyeman wrote: comparing mogs to the nut

Seriously though, Mogs does remind me alot of the great Michael Bevan at times.

Wow, that was some fantastic 6 from Mogs

Mogs going for 100 here I think. Needs 34 of 53 required to win.

liverbnz wrote:Mogs going for 100 here I think. Needs 34 of 53 required to win.

Not beyond reality either since he has scored 66 - 26 in the partnership

Morgan can be every bit as destructive as the nut, just does not carry the same aura.

Tsotsobe has been some way below his standards. He has been a very good ODI bowler, picking up wickets regularly and keeping things quite. He hasn't been able to do either of this in this match. Wasn't that effective in the last match either.

I know Jimmy got 4 wickets but this knock from Mogs has been a matchwinning and MotM effort for me.

This No1 toing and froing is gonna go on for some time in all formats.

Morgan has been a fine ODI batsman, England's best finisher after Neil Fairbrother? He has been very consistent, and over the last 3 years has been England's best ODI player.
But comparisons with Pietersen are a bit pointless, as Morgan's not half the test batsman that Pietersen is.

msp83 wrote:Morgan has been a fine ODI batsman, England's best finisher after Neil Fairbrother? He has been very consistent, and over the last 3 years has been England's best ODI player.
But comparisons with Pietersen are a bit pointless, as Morgan's not half the test batsman that Pietersen is.

Neil Fairbrother is one of my all time favourites

As this is a ODI, i dont think that test comparissons have any relevance here

Oh bugger

Petersen gets Morgan, Trott will have to see England through here.

Oh well

msp83 wrote:Morgan has been a fine ODI batsman, England's best finisher after Neil Fairbrother? He has been very consistent, and over the last 3 years has been England's best ODI player.
But comparisons with Pietersen are a bit pointless, as Morgan's not half the test batsman that Pietersen is.

No one has msp, but i thought it would be the fan that bit.

If Trott stays in, he will have a ODI average of over 50

Billy, the comparison between Morgan and Pietersen as batsmen will have to include all formats of the game. Pietersen is many times the batsman that Morgan is in tests, Morgan has been the more consistent and better finisher in ODIs, although KP's record in the format is not bad by any means, and Pietersen is one of the very best T-20I batsmen in the world even though Morgan can be very destructive and effective in that format as well.

msp83 wrote:Billy, the comparison between Morgan and Pietersen as batsmen will have to include all formats of the game. Pietersen is many times the batsman that Morgan is in tests, Morgan has been the more consistent and better finisher in ODIs, although KP's record in the format is not bad by any means, and Pietersen is one of the very best T-20I batsmen in the world even though Morgan can be very destructive and effective in that format as well.

Was just messing with you MSP83

Just sick of any KP debate to be honest

I would suggest KP is the better odi batter. his SR and average although similar are better, and t20 and test is miles better. Morgan is however a very good batsmen. But KP in all for me

eirebilly wrote:

msp83 wrote:Billy, the comparison between Morgan and Pietersen as batsmen will have to include all formats of the game. Pietersen is many times the batsman that Morgan is in tests, Morgan has been the more consistent and better finisher in ODIs, although KP's record in the format is not bad by any means, and Pietersen is one of the very best T-20I batsmen in the world even though Morgan can be very destructive and effective in that format as well.

Was just messing with you MSP83

Just sick of any KP debate to be honest

Well, many here say that don't they? And then there would be interesting insinuations that would start it all over again!!.
Anyways Kieswetter and Trott will have to see England through here. If South Africa manage a wicket within the next 10 runs, then there could be that little bit of pressure on Samit Patel and the rest.

As i said earlier, Mogs reminde me alot of Michael Bevan (for those that remember) except he lacks that composure that Bevan had. Mogs will often get out whereas Bevan was almost impossible to remove when seeing the Aussies home.

They both have/had that incredible ability to keep the scoreboard ticking over at a very comfortable rate.

Right drop the nut please, oops he has been.

msp83 wrote:
Well, many here say that don't they? And then there would be interesting insinuations that would start it all over again!!.
Anyways Kieswetter and Trott will have to see England through here. If South Africa manage a wicket within the next 10 runs, then there could be that little bit of pressure on Samit Patel and the rest.

I dont think that anyone is truely saying that to be honest. I am not going to get into that debate.

Well, 1-1 going into the last 2. Not been an exciting match due to Englands good bowling.

If Peterson had cought that then i would be impressed, that was a difficult chance

No, composure lads...

Petersen's drop doesn't cause South Africa much, Kieswetter runout 2 balls later.

Silly run out of Trott, but Eng strolling.

It was a stupid run out, no need to push for those at this stage.

Can England find a way to lose this one? I remember they losing an ODI to India in 1999 I think, needed 6 runs of 2 overs with 3 wickets, and they lost by 3 runs, with Ajay Jadeja taking 3 for 3 in an over!.

skyeman wrote:Silly run out of Trott Kieswetter , but Eng strolling.

Fixed that for you

msp83 wrote:Can England find a way to lose this one? I remember they losing an ODI to India in 1999 I think, needed 6 runs of 2 overs with 3 wickets, and they lost by 3 runs, with Ajay Jadeja taking 3 for 3 in an over!.

No i dont, that never happened. Damn people making things up

eirebilly wrote:

skyeman wrote:Silly run out of Trott Kieswetter , but Eng strolling.

Fixed that for you

my bad. ty