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After Round 1, are you more or less optimistic for the 2012/13 season?

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Post by LondonTiger Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:23 pm

We all enter a new season full of optimism, but also with a little trepidation. After the first match how is your mood now?

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:24 pm

Looking up, but a long way to go, bigger challenges to face Chief

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Post by LondonTiger Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:27 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Looking up, but a long way to go, bigger challenges to face Chief

Result of the round really. I expected Chiefs to win, but not by such a margin.


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Post by Looseheaded Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:29 pm

As a London Welsh supporter, we didn't get as humiliated as expected, and got two tries, and showed some good rugby. Reckon we could grab a few ins this season, maybe stay up even...

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Post by funnyExiledScot Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:30 pm

Edinburgh fan here - less optimistic. New signings didn't look up to much on Saturday (Tonks aside), and we've lost a league game at home already - something we were hoping to put right this season.

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Post by geoff998rugby Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:09 pm

As an Ulster fan thumbs up. We beat a near full strength Glasgow side with players on the treatment table numbering into double figures - cant be bad.

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Post by bathmad Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:41 pm

Not good. Against a team expected to struggle, against a backrow that lost it's best player (Horstmann)...

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Post by Geordie Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:46 pm

Beating our main rivals...im happy that we should make the play offs if we stick to form...and continue improving...and to be honest im hopeful of coming straight back up.


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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:53 pm

Well, technically its the 2nd weekend, but so far this season Tasman have beaten Canterbury and nearly upset Taranaki in New Plymouth to win the Ranfurly Shield - 40 points is the most ever scored by a losing challenger. Not bad after finishing last in the ITM Championship last season - both Canterbury and Taranaki are in the ITM Premiership.

The ITM Cup has a really weird format where all 7 teams in the Premiership play each other, plus having 4 matches against Championship sides, and vice versa. The Championship winner gets promoted to Premiership, over the last placed team in the Prem.

There's also mid-week matches, all in the name of squeezing a 14 team competition with playoffs into 10 weeks
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:56 pm

London Irish fan. Enough said. Sad
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Post by maestegmafia Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:59 pm

A bit dispondent over losing to Treviso but fair play to them they are a good team.

Just watched the match and we did alright with the lack of experience upfront.

More to come I'm sure.

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Post by sugarNspikes Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:04 pm

I don't support Ospreys. Good weekend for me Smile Im optimistic for the season.

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Post by yappysnap Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:08 pm

Stressed. At the start of the afternoon I was steam picard

I shouldn't have to go through so many highs and lows on the first game of the season!

But by the end of the game on Sat I was Yahoo mug

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Post by yappysnap Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:09 pm

Do you support a team Sugar?

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Post by Jimpy Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:33 pm

Looseheaded wrote:As a London Welsh supporter, we didn't get as humiliated as expected, and got two tries, and showed some good rugby. Reckon we could grab a few ins this season, maybe stay up even...

It was still a large winning margin for Tigers who are traditionally, quite slow starters. Prior to Sunday, they'd lost 3 of the last 4 opening league matches. And Tigers were nowhere near convincing from my point of view. Okay, so London Welsh had a purple patch at the end of the first half, but apart from that looked like the proverbial rabbit in the headlights at times.

I think what i'm trying to say was don't count your chickens. Look what 'Quins did to The Pests on Saturday and be nervous for next week. Staying up is a possibility I suppose but Exeter you aint, the only other team likely to be in a relgation scrap at the end of the year will probably be Worcester (or London Irish!) and I know who i'd back to stay up.

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Post by bathmad Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:42 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:London Irish fan. Enough said. Sad

I was there, it wasn't great!

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Post by yappysnap Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:45 pm

Quins do usually struggle against the smaller sides. Connacht, Exeter, Wuss all pushed us last season.

But if LW do try to throw it about too much I think it'll make things easy for us.

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Post by gowales Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:46 pm

Disappointed more than anything as an Ospreys fan. With the team that went out there we should have got the result.

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Post by Notch Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:47 pm

We got 4 points against a playoff rival with double figures on the 'not available' list including Ferris, Bowe, Best, Pienaar, Wilson etc.

We WILL improve as we play more games and get more players back. Our set piece is good, our defence is good. I'm happy with where we are going.
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Post by John Cregan Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:47 pm

As a Munster Fan, it's hard to say............watching the reserve team play won't tell you a whole lot.............

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Post by Jimpy Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:45 pm

yappysnap wrote:Quins do usually struggle against the smaller sides. Connacht, Exeter, Wuss all pushed us last season.

But if LW do try to throw it about too much I think it'll make things easy for us.

Exeter proved tough to beat for quite a few teams last season.

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Post by LondonTiger Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:48 pm

Jimpy wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Quins do usually struggle against the smaller sides. Connacht, Exeter, Wuss all pushed us last season.

But if LW do try to throw it about too much I think it'll make things easy for us.

Exeter proved tough to beat for quite a few teams last season.

Impossible for us.

We were able to beat Quins, Saracens, Saints, Ulster and Clermont. Exeter however had the wood on us.

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Post by LondonTiger Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:52 pm

I was a bit low about the performance yesterday. Then I remembered that the last time we won the first match of the season was 2008/9.

We went on to top the table, beat LI in the premiership final and make the HC final. I would take that result at the end of the season Smile

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:16 pm

Optimistic. If we can come back to win that match, we need never think we are out of a game. Ever. And we won't defend that poorly anytime soon again
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Post by Pot Hale Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:22 pm

As a newly converted Bath fan, I'm really excited about their prospects for the season.
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Post by Moorsman Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:32 pm

Chief always relieved to get the first match under the belt and see how the squad will perform. As usual I came away thinking I should have more faith and very pleased at what appears to be an improved performance from a squad with more strength in depth. Yahoo
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Post by Jimpy Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:42 am

LondonTiger wrote:I was a bit low about the performance yesterday. Then I remembered that the last time we won the first match of the season was 2008/9.

We went on to top the table, beat LI in the premiership final and make the HC final. I would take that result at the end of the season Smile

Only the supporters of Sale and LI have any excuse to feel despondant (maybe Wasps). The rest of the matches either went as planned or were close. Lest we not forget its the first competetive match of the season, there are bound to be rough edges.

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Post by bathmad Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:46 am

Beg to differ Jimpy. Bath were shoite.

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Post by beshocked Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:51 am

Jimpy don't you think Gloucester fans will be disappointed?

Bathmad at least you won away from home. Opportunity to make it 2/2 vs Wasps.

Personally I am optimistic. From what people have said the Saracens-Irish game wasn't good to watch but the try bonus point was secured!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:53 am

Beshocked I think the main plus to take is that Ashton looked like he has his mojo back!
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Post by yappysnap Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:00 am

Yea if Saracens play a full game like they did that second 40 then they'll rack up the points.

If they play like the first 40 then it could be another long season.

I suppose the coaches and players should be commended for changing up the gameplan when it obviously wasn't working, something they got a lot of flak for not doing last season.

All in all things are looking good for
Quins
Wasps
Tigers
Saints
Exeter
Saracens

And not so good for
Irish
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Sale
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Post by Jimpy Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:05 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:Beshocked I think the main plus to take is that Ashton looked like he has his mojo back!

He shouldn't have been yellow carded, mind you, neither should the LI yellow card have been yellow either.

Barnes didn't have a good game really.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:20 am

Well there's a surprise, Jimpy Whistle
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Post by beshocked Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:38 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:Beshocked I think the main plus to take is that Ashton looked like he has his mojo back!

Yes that's true. It's also good for Ashton to get used to playing with Goode and Barritt as all three are in the EPS.

It means of the three full backs likely to start for England Ashton will have played with two extensively - Goode and Foden.

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Post by LondonTiger Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:44 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:Well there's a surprise, Jimpy Whistle

I would think that Quins would want Barnes every match. Certainly based on last season his style suited the things Quins do Very Happy

i strongly disagree with Jimpy - both YCs were clear cut for me.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:45 am

Doesn't mean I think he's a good ref, LT
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Post by Jimpy Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:50 am

LondonTiger wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:Well there's a surprise, Jimpy Whistle

I would think that Quins would want Barnes every match. Certainly based on last season his style suited the things Quins do Very Happy

i strongly disagree with Jimpy - both YCs were clear cut for me.

But then, you always appear to look on the bright side don't you... Whistle

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Post by munkian Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:52 am

Happy with bonus point win - can only play the team infront of you.

Our new signings have done very well - Nimmo, Prydie and Dan all played very well.

We kicked well and defended well, Lydiate has got such a bright future ahead of him.

Our forwards need to front up more, the scrum needs alot of work but we have a new specialist in for that.
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Post by LondonTiger Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:52 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:Doesn't mean I think he's a good ref, LT

He is a very pedantic ref with what appears to be little understanding of the flow of the game. The decisions he actually makes are very rarely wrong as such, but he does seem to miss a lot.

I feel sorry for refs, Barnes included. In most cases their view of the game is worse than those watching on TV, they can only look at one thing at a time, and have to referee to a risiculously complicated law book while at the same time cope with players doing their damnedest to find ways to push the boundaries. Despite all this they make far less mistakes than the players.


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Post by LondonTiger Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:54 am

Jimpy wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:

i strongly disagree with Jimpy - both YCs were clear cut for me.

But then, you always appear to look on the bright side don't you... Whistle

Equo, neither were tackles, they were high and late shoulder barges.

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Post by beshocked Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:59 am

I think Wayne Barnes overall is a good ref but occasionally makes the odd howler here or there. Luckily none of these howlers have been against my team yet!

My favourite refs are Dave Pearson and Nigel Owens.

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Post by munkian Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:16 am

Clancy was his usual terrible self for the Dragons match.


Hang on a minute, I thought only the Welsh moaned about the ref ? Erm
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Post by Jimpy Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:22 am

beshocked wrote:I think Wayne Barnes overall is a good ref but occasionally makes the odd howler here or there. Luckily none of these howlers have been against my team yet!

My favourite refs are Dave Pearson and Nigel Owens.

Pearson is my favourite too, but didn't both he and Barnes get 'sacked' from international duty recently?

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Post by beshocked Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:25 am

Yes they did.

Don't know why Pearson was.

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Post by Jimpy Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:53 am

I think it was to do with that dodgy World Cup decision where he failed to recommend that a blatant tip tackle was penalised with a red card, whereas Warburton was sent off for the exact same offence - actually, the Warburton tip tackle wasn't as bad as the one Person 'let go'.

Thats my recollection of it anyway.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:22 am

Jimpy wrote:I think it was to do with that dodgy World Cup decision where he failed to recommend that a blatant tip tackle was penalised with a red card, whereas Warburton was sent off for the exact same offence - actually, the Warburton tip tackle wasn't as bad as the one Person 'let go'.

Thats my recollection of it anyway.

Do you mean the Ireland v Wales match in the Six Nations, when he had a clear view of Bradley Davies picking up Donnacha Ryan and landing him on his shoulders, but then recommended a yellow card to Wayne Barnes, who hadn't seen the incident? I bet the powers that be took a dim view of that.

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Post by Jimpy Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:50 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
Jimpy wrote:I think it was to do with that dodgy World Cup decision where he failed to recommend that a blatant tip tackle was penalised with a red card, whereas Warburton was sent off for the exact same offence - actually, the Warburton tip tackle wasn't as bad as the one Person 'let go'.

Thats my recollection of it anyway.

Do you mean the Ireland v Wales match in the Six Nations, when he had a clear view of Bradley Davies picking up Donnacha Ryan and landing him on his shoulders, but then recommended a yellow card to Wayne Barnes, who hadn't seen the incident? I bet the powers that be took a dim view of that.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:51 am

It was worse for being an off-the-ball incident, too.

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Post by munkian Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:52 am

Who was the one Biltong hates ?
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:54 am

Ha, that's Bruce Lawrence. Wink

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