The Euro Division Homepage XXIX

by sodhat Sat 08 Sep 2012, 10:46 pm

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606V2 EURODivision

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Season 3 Week 2:

TACTICS DUE IN BY 11:59pm ON WEDNESDAY!!!!

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Participants: Olly, T5J, Twi5t, 5odhat, Ru55, Nando, Marky (if we spoon feed him), Greger5

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Everyone in Premier League (who votes on Championship) send their results to:
Hero

Everyone in Championship (who votes on Premier League) send their results to:
Olly

To Qualify for the £2M Bonus, teams need to post their tactics by Midnight on Wednesday and PM their results by Midnight on Friday

Premier League

Real Ale Sociedad - TwisT

Tactics

The London Silly Nannies - Sodhat

Injuries

AC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - Marky

Lawyers

Viva City - VivaPaulScholes

Fixtures

Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - Hero

Results

Jacamos United - The Special Juan

Table

Hangover 69 - Gregers

Treble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners

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Championship

Holton FC - Olly

Tactics

Barearselona - Fernando

Injuries

Real NADrid©®™ V2 - Nadeem

Lawyers

Substandard Liege - Afro

Fixtures

Neymar FC - cherriesfan

Results

Go Ahead Eagles - Russell_Elmo

Table

Gotham City Rovers - TheBrahmaBull

City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 14 Sep 2012, 11:49 pm

Oh my god I completely forgot cup votes.

by The Special Juan Fri 14 Sep 2012, 11:58 pm

You have 2 minutes Smile

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 15 Sep 2012, 12:02 am

Sorry guys. No £2 million for me this week.

Can't believe I forgot, completely slipped my mind. Sorry

by The Special Juan Sat 15 Sep 2012, 12:08 am

#punishment #bottledit #onlyhadtovoteon3games #toobusywatchingthatmichaelcainefilmthat'sonitv4andishavingareallyreallyreallyhardtimereadingthishashtagwhichiputdownbecausei'msuchatool

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 15 Sep 2012, 12:10 am

#tsjicouldreadeverywordofthathashtagbecauseiamatwittergodandiliterallyforgotaboutvotesandwaswatchinga9/11documentaryinsteadforsomesillyreason

by **Afro** Sat 15 Sep 2012, 7:41 am

Medel can go for a decent cash offer of whatever I would get for a TP.

I have an alternative target lined up

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 15 Sep 2012, 8:38 am

Not around much today lads. Football then out with mates for a bit.

Soddy. This is it. One of us, will have the name change forever (a week). It is on (unless it's a draw, which will just be hugely anti-climactic)

by ncfc_Tooze Sat 15 Sep 2012, 9:09 am

I will be back to normal this week coming as Amy is back to work or she should be anyway

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 9:10 am

Cup votes to be tallied and posted early this afternoon The Euro Division Homepage XXIX - Page 16 3559488474

Still time for the likes of Olly to get votes in.

by TwisT Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:15 am

Morning all

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:06 pm

Going to do the Cherry Cup scores now.

by The Special Juan Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:36 pm

I don't know if any of you have watched an SPL game on ESPN this season (and if you've never watched an SPL game ever I don't blame you) but surely Stephen Craigan has the most annoying voice ever? He never stops talking and talks at 100 words per second (wps).

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:57 pm

Tough decisions to make with average scores.

Basically, am I correct in saying;

1.5 v 1.333333 = 1-1
1.57 v 1.285 = 2-1

by **Hero** Sat 15 Sep 2012, 1:59 pm

1.5 is rounded up as well.

by The Special Juan Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:10 pm

Is it too early to start chanting "Why are we waiting?"? #bringbackcherries

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:15 pm

Group A

City of Norwich 0-2 Holton Wanderers - default win

Holt tactics were probably good enough to beat Norwich but maybe against a better side would struggle, I feel the defenders were too pumped and maybe it would have been better to calm them down instead of having them going all guns blazing. More instructions to the wingers would have been good.

Hangover 69 1-1 London Silly Nannies

1-1, 1-0, 0-0, 1-2, 2-1, 2-1, 1-2, 2-1, 2-2
=
1.3333333 - 1.1111111

Tight affair not really much between the two teams they both cancelled each other out. The three forward players of Hangover were a threat but if Welbeck was allowed to stay further up the pitch they could have had a focal point in attack. The wide men of Nannies did cause some threat but the defence of Hangover managed to have the better.

I really like the team of Hangover. I feel Terry and Nastasic are a match for Carroll, and Capoue plays a key part in keeping Nannies midfield twosome quiet. A tight win

The way both teams are set out, especially with the 2 sets of strikers, I think it will be a pretty dire 0-0 draw. I'd say Carroll was pretty useless unless you play complete hoofball to him. Although the wingers did so, no one else really did. As for Hangover, I'd never have Welbeck leading the line on his own. He needs someone else. The addition of Bojan was too little too late.

Entertaining game, both sides changed it up and went for it, which made for a good game. A draw the fair result.

Group B

Go Ahead Eaaagles 2-0 Real NADrid - default win

Treble's Revenge 1-3 Viva City

1-1, 1-2, 1-2, 1-2, 1-2, 1-2, 2-1, 0-1
=
1 - 1.65
+
3 extra win votes

A very even match with two like for like formations. Trebs has done his homework and isolated Viva's wingers. Rodriguez is a threat and should have been dealt with clearer. Huntelaar causes more problems than Eto. Goal a piece.

Probably quite an entertaining affair with similar set ups. I do feel Valencia and Bastos have more of a target for their crosses than Lennon and Rodriguez as Niang nor Eto’o are noted aerial threats. The midfields look fairly even and Pirlo will likely be restricted with no time to set things up, but I do think Valbuena can make hay behind the midfield line.

Two very similar sides but I feel that Viva are stronger at the back which allows them to play from the back before using Valencia/Bastos to hurt trebles.

Such a tough game to call, both are quite evenly matched and played a similar formation. It was such a tough game to call, I had to think about it long and hard (lol) but in the end, I think Viva just about has enough quality to win the match. Probably the best game in terms of viewing out of the ones voted on.

Tight match here, both sides strong for the Cup, I feel Viva City edged it with their stronger attack, Niang is unproven and I don't think he's able to trouble the Viva defence too much.

Group C

Substandard Liege 2-1 Barearselona

3-0, 1-2, 1-3, 2-0, 1-0, 1-3, 2-1
=
1.57 - 1.285

The Liege starting XI does not look so strong I hope to see Afro bring in a couple more first teamers for the next game. I am not convinced about the defence that played and the CB do not have the best concentration IMO.

It would be tough to see the SL defensive line keep out the star studded Barearselona attack and ultimately I think they walk away with the win on that basis. Both set ups were sound, and there is always a threat carried by SL because of their organisation, but they lack the incisive threats that their opponents have. The wings are the key to this one because the centre will be even and congested.

Barearselona have a lot more quality throughout their side and Liege having players like Speroni and Clyne in their side says it all, they really aren't good enough

Substandard have a great selection of under 21's and it was Maher and Deulofeu that won it for them today, Maher inparticular gave Inler a run aorund.

Both sides strong but I feel Liege has a better balance in their side and while it was an entertaining game, Liege were able to control the tempo to hold on for the win.

Jacamos United 2-1 Real Ale Sociedad

2-1, 1-1, 1-3, 1-0, 2-0, 2-3
=
1.5 - 1.3333333

Jacamos controlled the midfielder both teams had two DM but the Jacamos were lot more dominant and this restricted the Real attacking players. PIque had the better of Torres it was when Lukaku came on giving them the brute force in the air that gave Real some hope.

A tough one to call, so I won’t. I’m sitting on a comfy, comfy fence. I can see similar set ups in their midfields with a playmaker alongside a box to box player and an even battle overall. Hazard is a threat in the AM role and I can see him causing problems, but likewise the wingers of Jacamos will test Real Ale. Not sure of De Jong as an AM because it’s out of his comfort zone and won’t make the most of him.

Jacamos have more quality in their side but I think Ale have the best players on the pitch in Hazard and Torres. Overall a close game but Jacamos slightly better.

A very tight game but I feel the quality of Real Ale's under 21s would have won it for them, Hazard inparticular having a stormer.

Great game, both sides going for it but I feel the unpredictability of Hazard with Torres and the pace of Sterling causes problems for Jacamos as Ogbonna isn't a natural LB

Group D

The Bulltatorship 2-0 Neymar FC - default win

If Neymar just put up average XI they would beat Gotham easily, 3-4-1-2 formation and the fullbacks are playing? Isco and Giggs can not play as hardworking wingers. Tactics were very poor telling defenders to watch wingers means they would have to go wide which could leave Gotham with 1 defender in the middle and the midfield was not going to dominate. Improvements needed big time.

Athletico Bilbao Baggins 1-1 AC ALSOAM

1-0, 1-0, 1-1, 1-1, 1-1, 2-1, 4-4, 1-1, 0-1
=
1.3333333 - 1.111111111

ALSOAM I just think for them to match Xavi and Toure they needed someone who could match them physically, mobile and run all day which I think they lacked maybe less techincally talented players but grit and sweat would have been the better option. Aquilani pushing back a lot reduced the creativity in their side. If Bilbao can bring someone who stays in the wing positions more consistenctly they would be very dangerous giving them supply from wide for attackers to get on to.

Slight mistake on Baggins tactics as he lists Richards in tactics (but not in formation) when his is injured. I think Higuains tactics to try and get the man marking CB out of the way work, and creates a lot of room for Cazorla, who I think provides the main threat - not Toure or Xavi. Both teams expected different players to play in certain positions, but I feel Baggins just has enough to take a tight game.

I think you're both good for a goal and a point. Marky's read the opposition midfield well, but stopping them is another thing completely. M'Vila's just too off form at the moment so I'd drop him. I've seen better players try to stop Xavi and fail. You're better in defence than Hero though; I'd have Subotic and Howedes over Hummels and Coates. As for ABB, well I've said pretty much all there is to say. You've given instructions to Richards though but I'm not petty enough to penalise you for that.

Another nightmare to call. It’s another battle of teams with a lot of respect and similar set ups, and I don’t see either defence being bent too out of shape. Hero’s side has more cutting edge up top but Marky has gone more defensive to counter it. I’ve never been much of a fan of Coutinho since he missed a sitter for me on Fifa, but he and Insigne fit their roles well and ultimately I think they will get the ball to Osvaldo who is capable of the spectacular. 1-1 for me, but with Hero pressing and Marky happy to sit on the point.

An absolutely cracking game with some fantastic play from both sides, in the end I can't see it being anything other than a draw

Impossible to split these two sides, ALSOAM worked well to stop Xavi and Toure and tried to dominate the middle of the park, maybe their attack isn't up to scratch though. However, the Baggins defense doesn't look it's usual dominating self.

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:17 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Is it too early to start chanting "Why are we waiting?"? #bringbackcherries

I just spent an hour, while my 2 year old daughter and 5 year old nephew distract me, taking the jist from 10 PM's and presenting the results, at least 24 hours before Cherries used to post, and you're moaning?

#spoilt

by The Special Juan Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:20 pm

Marky wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Is it too early to start chanting "Why are we waiting?"? #bringbackcherries

I just spent an hour, while my 2 year old daughter and 5 year old nephew distract me, taking the jist from 10 PM's and presenting the results, at least 24 hours before Cherries used to post, and you're moaning?

#spoilt

What's more important: your family or your online pretend football manager job?

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:37 pm

Good point TSJ, I apologise.

by sodhat Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:52 pm

Hard lines Olly, could have nicked that at the end!

by sodhat Sat 15 Sep 2012, 2:54 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys, always appreciated

I disagree that Carroll only plays well with hoofball though...even though we did try and utilise his strengths with some direct play.

by Russell_Elmo Sat 15 Sep 2012, 3:00 pm

so Anton

Spoiler:

shake Terry's hand.

by TwisT Sat 15 Sep 2012, 3:35 pm

I don't understand how I lost if those are the right scores. Should it not be a draw?

Jacamos = 9 goals, and 3 win votes
Real Ale = 8 goals and 2 win votes

One draw.

Can someone explain please

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 3:38 pm

TwisT wrote:I don't understand how I lost if those are the right scores. Should it not be a draw?

Jacamos = 9 goals, and 3 win votes
Real Ale = 8 goals and 2 win votes

One draw.

Can someone explain please

Because the scores divided by the number of votes equalled Jacamos 1.5, Real Ale 1.33333. And Hero stated that 1.5 is rounded up to two, but anything under 1.5 is rounded down to 1.

Harsh I admit, but that's the system.

by TwisT Sat 15 Sep 2012, 3:40 pm

But hang on. You have 7 results for the other group game and only 6 for our game.

That doesn't make any sense

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 4:13 pm

That's because someone (not naming names Trebs Whistle

) put feedback but no result in his voting of Jacamos v Real Ale.

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 4:14 pm

Although his feedback hinted a Jacamos win, so I wouldn't worry Twist.

by TwisT Sat 15 Sep 2012, 4:19 pm

Right ok

by sodhat Sat 15 Sep 2012, 4:58 pm

I see Chelsea and City alip

by sodhat Sat 15 Sep 2012, 4:58 pm

I see Chelsea and City - also known as West Ham's title rivals - have slipped up today.

by sodhat Sat 15 Sep 2012, 4:59 pm

sodhat wrote:I see Chelsea and City alip

Ignore that one, I've had more to drink than I should have at this point.

by Bull Sat 15 Sep 2012, 5:00 pm

sodhat wrote:I see Chelsea and City - also known as West Ham's title rivals - have slipped up today.

by Russell_Elmo Sat 15 Sep 2012, 5:00 pm

We never got going today. Had nothing going forward.

Torres was subbed and walked straight down the tunnel! #sandinhisvagina

by sodhat Sat 15 Sep 2012, 5:03 pm

Should have signed a striker rather than a million AMs! Still, I reckon top three for Chelsea.

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 5:13 pm

Hazard missed an absolute sitter in the last minute though

by TwisT Sat 15 Sep 2012, 5:19 pm

Marky wrote:Hazard missed an absolute sitter in the last minute though

Put it this way. At least Hazard wasn't subbed for a CDM when you still needed goals for a win. Like Tevez was. Whistle

Gareth Barry...........the great last minute goalscorer extraordinaire Wink

On a side note, I don't agree with Torres' attitude after he was subbed. My player or not

by sodhat Sat 15 Sep 2012, 5:52 pm

I literally just got Tevez in my fantasy side too.

Sorry Marky, his season is done...

by The Special Juan Sat 15 Sep 2012, 7:19 pm

Well played Twist. Looking at the feedback and the scores it appears to be really close.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 15 Sep 2012, 7:21 pm

Soddy was a good game today. I thought early on you were all over us and unlucky not to score, then we came good end of first half and somehow didnt score in that melee.

Second half was pretty dire, although how we didnt score at the end I will never know again.

Pretty much I dont understand how either team failed to score Laugh

(Also the referee was abysmal all round. Giving fouls for things everybody but him didnt see!)

by Trebs Sat 15 Sep 2012, 9:05 pm

PM Marky

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 9:52 pm

Trebs has sent me his score for Jacamos v Real Ale but I'm taking the decision to say its too late to edit the score now.

It would make a difference to the score but that's the way it goes.

by Trebs Sat 15 Sep 2012, 9:57 pm

No worries Marky.

I think the results system needs to be changed for the reboot of the league.

by Marky Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:02 pm

Trebs, you probably need to suggest an alternative method rather than just make a comment like that Whistle

Maybe copy the Realistic and disregard the scores, just win/draw/win votes.

by Trebs Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:06 pm

Yeah I much prefer the realistic league's method, hence why I made it Whistle

Basically:
Vote with a score
Results are compared, i.e 4-2-1, would be a home win.
Scoreline is based on predictions, but is at no set rule, just whatever the consensus is.

Maybe have whichever result is the most popular is the result regardless, unless it is less than 50% of the vote?

by The Special Juan Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:07 pm

It's exactly like Parliamentary voting: You'll never please everyone whether it be Proportional Representation or First Past the Post.

by Trebs Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:12 pm

I prefer AV Whistle

by The Special Juan Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:14 pm

Be different why don't you?

(I just googled it, apparently we call it PR up here, it's AV in England, or so my Modern Studies teacher told us.)

by Trebs Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:16 pm

Nah, I completely favour proportional representation. I know a bit, the alternative vote would be an improvement on the first past the post though as the current system favours the big parties. Smaller parties like Green, UKIP etc. have no chance with the current system.

I should stop rambling and go to the politics section....

by **Hero** Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:17 pm

Oh Trebs, Di Maria has been taking lessons from Pepe tonight on playing like a ****.

by The Special Juan Sat 15 Sep 2012, 10:22 pm

onlytreblewinners wrote:

Nah, I completely favour proportional representation. I know a bit, the alternative vote would be an improvement on the first past the post though as the current system favours the big parties. Smaller parties like Green, UKIP etc. have no chance with the current system.

I should stop rambling and go to the politics section....

You'd be the only one there!! We were taught about most of the voting systems, I think FPTP is the fairest in terms of the winner of each constituency but perhaps not overall in terms of the number of seats @ Westminster for each party.

@Hero, don't know why but you've reminded me of Scotland's idea of diplomacy.

"You're a ****, but that's ok because I like *****."

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