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Post by HERSH Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:54 am

Good to see Cips is taking his rugby seriously again by talking about his tattooed arm and Twitter.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/19643427
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Post by GoodinTightSpaces Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:12 am

606 article of the year????

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Post by HERSH Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:15 am

Cheers.

But do try to have an opinion and stay on topic. thumbsup
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Post by Morgannwg Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:22 pm

No idea why he's talked about. There's a lot of low profile players in the Sale team that could have this written about them, so my question is why is Cips considered high profile? Just let him play rugby with giving special care to working on his defence.
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Post by SecretFly Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:34 pm

Do any of these guys who like to write their life history on their arms or legs or torsos or backs, do they ever think of just keeping a diary?


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Post by lostinwales Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:36 pm

SecretFly wrote:Do any of these guys who like to write their life history on their arms or legs or torsos or backs, do they ever think of just keeping a diary?


But that involves things like books....

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Post by SecretFly Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:39 pm

.. I know, I know. Much too complicated.

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Post by LondonTiger Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:40 pm

It is the only way Beckham can remember his kids names Smile

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Post by Morgannwg Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:04 pm

Haha!
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Post by Jimpy Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:35 pm

LondonTiger wrote:It is the only way Beckham can remember his kids names Smile

To be fair, these guys aren't paid to be Mastermind contenders, they're paid to play professionally at their respective sports and be good at them.

In Beckham's defence (and i'm no footy fan) at least he was demonstrably excellent within his own sport. He was/is also a great servant to his country and has been consistently hard working with respects to his own sport and that of the Olympic committee. He's also shown considerable talent in other business fields too.

Cipriani on the other hand has done very little that would earn him respect from my point of view.

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Post by Brendan Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:43 pm

How is Cips doing in the League. Is there any way that he could make the Saxon or 6N squads

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Post by Lenny Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:50 pm

And he wants to be making headlines for his rugby again. "I only want attention for the sport, you know."

He says in a article almost exclusively around off the field matters

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Post by SecretFly Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:53 pm

Jimpy wrote:

In Beckham's defence (and i'm no footy fan) at least he was demonstrably excellent within his own sport. He was/is also a great servant to his country and has been consistently hard working with respects to his own sport and that of the Olympic committee. He's also shown considerable talent in other business fields too.

Cipriani on the other hand has done very little that would earn him respect from my point of view.

In Beckham's defence (and I'm no footy fan either) he just seems a really nice man - a gentleman.

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Post by Geordie Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:54 pm

Unless he improves all round 100%, he is not gonna get ahead of Flood, and will also be behind Ford, Burns, Heathcote, and Farrell if he can sort out his distribution and attack.
Even our own Joel Hodgson is looking a far more exciting option...


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Post by George Carlin Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:17 pm

"The tattoo is complex, creative and enigmatic, which is actually a pretty good way of describing the man himself."

I've seen puddles with more depth than Cipriani.
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Post by HERSH Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:20 pm

I wonder if he has Kelly's jubblies on it or that bloke he pulled in a club? Very Happy
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Post by Knowsit17 Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:01 pm

And this is considered by the BBC to be more worthy of top story than Cusiter and Foden's respective injuries. picard

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Post by johnpartle Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:05 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Unless he improves all round 100%, he is not gonna get ahead of Flood, and will also be behind Ford, Burns, Heathcote, and Farrell if he can sort out his distribution and attack.
Even our own Joel Hodgson is looking a far more exciting option...



Sale's only try of the weekend came when Cipriani was getting up from the bottom of the breakdown and Miller stepped into the playmaker role. I know he's looking more and more like a FB rather than a FH (Goodesque), but I'd probably prefer him over Cipriani as well, he's a long way off selection.

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Post by Jimpy Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:08 pm

Knowsit17 wrote:And this is considered by the BBC to be more worthy of top story than Cusiter and Foden's respective injuries. picard

They have to publish articles that appeal to the lowest common denomenator on non-discriminatory grounds.

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Post by Geordie Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:09 pm

Miller is class though....we.made him up here dont forget Wink

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Post by GunsGerms Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:15 pm

Cipriani is a bit immature but not as bad as some of the press makes out. I hope he improves his d and stays under the radar cause he's a good player.

He's no Gavin "look at me" Henson anyway.

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Post by lostinwales Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:26 pm

His performance in THAT game he played for England vs Ireland was wonderful - but its a long time ago.

I could be wrong but I think I saw something about a charge down in one of his games for Sale - some things dont change

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Post by bluestonevedder Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:46 pm

Charge down against Saracens too lostinwales, by none other than charge down charlie!

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Post by GunsGerms Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:03 pm

lostinwales wrote:His performance in THAT game he played for England vs Ireland was wonderful - but its a long time ago.

I could be wrong but I think I saw something about a charge down in one of his games for Sale - some things dont change

Yep he played very very well v Ireland.

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Post by beshocked Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:06 am

Don't forget that Cipriani also missed the tackle against Goode which allowed him to break and tee up the winning try for Ashton in the 2nd game - Sale vs Saracens.

I think the stats of that game showed he made 4 tackles, missed 3.

Unfortunately Cipriani is far away from his HC glory day for Wasps and his 1 good performance for England.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:24 pm

I think it's still early days to judge Cipriani this season. Sale have been pretty poor as a team, and are all still getting to know eachother.

I personally think he's a very good player with alot of talent. He has issues with his game, certainly defence springs to mind, but given that England doesn't have a complete fly half to select, I think the selectors need to be open minded and just look at form. Currently Cipriani isn't there at present, but if has an injury free season and Sale as a team pick up (which I think they will), I'll wager he'll improve as the season goes on.

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Post by LondonTiger Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:05 pm

If he can play well, then of course he should be considered. Right now though there is nothing he has done on the pitch to suggest he should be involved.

I am expecting a MotM performance from him tomorrow though.

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Post by SecretFly Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:06 pm

LondonTiger wrote:If he can play well, then of course he should be considered. Right now though there is nothing he has done on the pitch to suggest he should be involved.

I am expecting a MotM performance from him tomorrow though.

Now there's a deduction and a half, Tiger. Wink

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Post by LondonTiger Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:11 pm

I blame the quarter of me that is Irish for making that leap in logic Very Happy

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Post by AlastairW Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:06 pm

LondonTiger wrote:I blame the quarter of me that is Irish for making that leap in logic Very Happy

I have a quarter of me that is Welsh. It's alright though i had an tonsilectomy w/ addenoids out and appendectomy as a child .... so as far as i'm concerned that's removed that part.


... yeah, i went there Run

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Post by SecretFly Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:15 pm

AlastairW wrote:

I have a quarter of me that is Welsh. It's alright though i had an tonsilectomy w/ addenoids out and appendectomy as a child .... so as far as i'm concerned that's removed that part.


Hate to break it to you but your first sentence suggests you missed the Welsh bits. Indeed, your whole statement suggests the quarter you were worried about wasn't Welsh at all...but some of Tiger's Irish.

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Post by AlastairW Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:23 pm

SecretFly wrote:
AlastairW wrote:

I have a quarter of me that is Welsh. It's alright though i had an tonsilectomy w/ addenoids out and appendectomy as a child .... so as far as i'm concerned that's removed that part.


Hate to break it to you but your first sentence suggests you missed the Welsh bits.

Curses! Doh

They were the useless bits you see, so i figured it had to be the Wales parts



............... oh yeah, i went there as well! Run

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Post by Jimpy Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:38 pm

I'm suprised you havent blamed the referee, you know, being a quarter Welsh and all that.

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Post by HERSH Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:40 pm

Is that really a 'BIG ISSUE' Jumpy?
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Post by HERSH Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:40 pm

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:57 pm

Only Cipriani could give a press conference about how hes enjoying life out of the limelight

Im sure his teammates will be glad to hear the coach saying its their fault that Ciprianis been a non event so far.


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Post by Biltong Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:48 am

HERSH wrote:Is that really a 'BIG ISSUE' Jumpy?
If not then what is HUSH?
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Post by beshocked Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:19 am

Very poor BBC article on Cipriani. If you are going to talk about him may as well mention his HC win with Wasps as a full back. I went to that game - Cipriani was very good in that final vs Leicester.

Also went to the game when he ran the show at fly half when England hammered Ireland. He was really good that day but after that he's never been the same.

That's where the hype came from but he hasn't built on it.

Giving the opposition a try from chargedowns 4 games in a row is never a good idea.

Before the hype went to Cipriani's head he was a great England prospect, he could actually defend too.

I have seen and heard nothing that Cipriani has done which deserves the hype to continue.

He's still error prone and has difficulty tackling. I can't see him changing this at Sale.


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Post by LondonTiger Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:55 pm

LondonTiger wrote:If he can play well, then of course he should be considered. Right now though there is nothing he has done on the pitch to suggest he should be involved.

I am expecting a MotM performance from him tomorrow though.

I guess I got that one wrong.

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Post by maestegmafia Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:23 am

Jimpy wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:It is the only way Beckham can remember his kids names Smile

To be fair, these guys aren't paid to be Mastermind contenders, they're paid to play professionally at their respective sports and be good at them.

In Beckham's defence (and i'm no footy fan) at least he was demonstrably excellent within his own sport. He was/is also a great servant to his country and has been consistently hard working with respects to his own sport and that of the Olympic committee. He's also shown considerable talent in other business fields too.

Cipriani on the other hand has done very little that would earn him respect from my point of view.

Beckham is a great role model too. Rarely in trouble, clean Living family man. A good example.

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Post by LondonTiger Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:27 am

maestegmafia wrote:
Beckham is a great role model too. Rarely in trouble, clean Living family man. A good example.

In general I agree. Does not make my comment on his tats unfair. Cruel maybe, but not unfair.

Cipriani however could be made fun of for many more reasons.


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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:16 am

maestegmafia wrote:

Beckham is a great role model too. Rarely in trouble, clean Living family man. A good example.[/quote]

Aside from sleeping with a woman who went on to make a living masterbating pigs on TV

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Post by George Carlin Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:19 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:

Beckham is a great role model too. Rarely in trouble, clean Living family man. A good example.

Aside from sleeping with a woman who went on to make a living masterbating pigs on TV


Well, if you're going to split hairs, PSW. Run

Seems to be a new rule - if you have enough children and you're good enough at your job, people seem to forget all about affairs (see, eg, Gordon Ramsay, Prince of Wales, etc).
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Post by Casartelli Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:42 pm

Tom Jones.

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Post by mowgli Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:16 pm

He's a wrong'un like hersh

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Post by HERSH Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:25 pm

Why am i a wrong'un?
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Post by LondonTiger Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:17 am

Because you are rarely right?

Run

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Post by Jimpy Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:26 am

LondonTiger wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
Beckham is a great role model too. Rarely in trouble, clean Living family man. A good example.

In general I agree. Does not make my comment on his tats unfair. Cruel maybe, but not unfair.

Cipriani however could be made fun of for many more reasons.

Its okay LT, to be fair, he probably wouldn't care what you thought anyway.

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Post by LondonTiger Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:53 am

Nor should he Jimpy

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Post by lostinwales Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:45 pm

George Carlin wrote:
Seems to be a new rule - if you have enough children and you're good enough at your job, people seem to forget all about affairs (see, eg, Gordon Ramsay, Prince of Wales, etc).

What difference does it make what people do in their private lives unless it has a direct impact on how they play or if it involves another player some how.

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