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Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
First topic message reminder :
For anybody that hasn't seen it Amir himself just announced on Soccer AM that his next opponent will be Carlos Molina on either the 1st or 15th of December possibly in Britain.
For anybody that hasn't seen it Amir himself just announced on Soccer AM that his next opponent will be Carlos Molina on either the 1st or 15th of December possibly in Britain.
alanqlm- Posts : 635
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
azania wrote:He took him as far as he could go. To get to the next level he needed a change. Khan fought a style of fight which exposed his limitations. You don't go mixing it up when you have a dodgy chin. Manny could do that but not Khan. Khan became almost an orthodox Manny in his last few fights.
Khan has no brain? He held on for dear life against Maidana. Many called it excessive and asked for points to have been docked. He tried to fire back against Garcia. Damned if you do it seems.
Great move to go to Hunter. More time with him also. He will show all his skills when he destroys Hatton.
You call it discliploned hanging on for dear life getting punched around the ring against Maidana? You want to hope Hatton has nothing left because his leagues above Maidana and Khan has no inside game whatsoever, Hatton would bully him if he was anything like his best.
Khan could go to Arcel,Futch and Blackburn combined, but soon as he fights a puncher you looking at disaster.
Cheers Rodders
Rodney- Posts : 1974
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
It was a good win vs Karass and was very entertaining but he didn't quite look the same although much better than the Alexander fight where he looked fleshy
He threw good hard straight punches much like he did vs Ortiz a couple years ago but Karass was eating them without flinching for 6 or so rounds without much give and before the stoppage Karass looked to be wearing him down and hurting him frequently but lowered his guard and got hit by a huge shot. Vs khan he was poor, looping shots and didn't throw the straight punches to get inside yet still got to him easily
Matthysse does have very good straight punches but to say khan wont be troubled because he doesn't throw hooks it's ridiculous. When matthysse gets on the inside he throws great hooks both to the head and the body
He threw good hard straight punches much like he did vs Ortiz a couple years ago but Karass was eating them without flinching for 6 or so rounds without much give and before the stoppage Karass looked to be wearing him down and hurting him frequently but lowered his guard and got hit by a huge shot. Vs khan he was poor, looping shots and didn't throw the straight punches to get inside yet still got to him easily
Matthysse does have very good straight punches but to say khan wont be troubled because he doesn't throw hooks it's ridiculous. When matthysse gets on the inside he throws great hooks both to the head and the body
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs- Posts : 3136
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
I call it great intelligence to hang on until your head clears. First you criticise him for fighting back and not you criticise him for holding on. Which is it?He will beat Hatton and do him a huge favour by putting him right back into retirement.Rodney wrote:azania wrote:He took him as far as he could go. To get to the next level he needed a change. Khan fought a style of fight which exposed his limitations. You don't go mixing it up when you have a dodgy chin. Manny could do that but not Khan. Khan became almost an orthodox Manny in his last few fights.
Khan has no brain? He held on for dear life against Maidana. Many called it excessive and asked for points to have been docked. He tried to fire back against Garcia. Damned if you do it seems.
Great move to go to Hunter. More time with him also. He will show all his skills when he destroys Hatton.
You call it discliploned hanging on for dear life getting punched around the ring against Maidana? You want to hope Hatton has nothing left because his leagues above Maidana and Khan has no inside game whatsoever, Hatton would bully him if he was anything like his best.
Khan could go to Arcel,Futch and Blackburn combined, but soon as he fights a puncher you looking at disaster.
Cheers Rodders
Well he beat Maidana who is a puncher. So it proves you wrong. After he beats Hatton he will be a British hero.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
Beating Hatton won't make him a British hero, many will say Ricky was finished and would've murdered Khan in his prime, you way off the mark if you think that catapults Khan into a ticket seller over here.
You make assumption he beats him as youre doing wi Broner over Burns, and to be fair I think you're prediction record is worse than mine, which is saying something.
Cheers Rodders
You make assumption he beats him as youre doing wi Broner over Burns, and to be fair I think you're prediction record is worse than mine, which is saying something.
Cheers Rodders
Rodney- Posts : 1974
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
He would be anything but a hero for beating hatton although we have no idea how much the hitman has left. If he's at 60% or more he wins.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
Rodney wrote:Beating Hatton won't make him a British hero, many will say Ricky was finished and would've murdered Khan in his prime, you way off the mark if you think that catapults Khan into a ticket seller over here.
You make assumption he beats him as youre doing wi Broner over Burns, and to be fair I think you're prediction record is worse than mine, which is saying something.
Cheers Rodders
Of course its an assumption. You're making assumptions also. Its not really a risky prediction either. Ricky is 34. He has a style not suited to longevity. He lives badly. Boozing, snorting and eating everything in sight. Khan will knock him out easily. Of course the excuses will ring out that Ricky was washed up. Too bad.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
Imperial Ghosty wrote:He would be anything but a hero for beating hatton although we have no idea how much the hitman has left. If he's at 60% or more he wins.
Disagree totally. Peak for peak, Hatton wins but not by much. Ricky is not a big puncher by any means. Strong bstard though. But Khan is tricky enough to have given him problems until the later rounds where Ricky would pull away aided by a knockdown. The ricky who fought at WW is not the same guy and if Lascano (or whatever his name was) could give him problems, so would Khan.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
Hatton may not have great power but the way Peterson fought vs khan is classic Hatton style and prime Hatton hits harder than Peterson, better body puncher, is tougher and has a better inside game as well as better footwork. Khan will start fast but will tire and doesn't have the power to hurt Hatton
Hatton UD 116-112 fairly comfortably and could get a late stoppage
Hatton UD 116-112 fairly comfortably and could get a late stoppage
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs- Posts : 3136
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
That's basically what I said. But I believe Peterson adopting a Plan B threw Khan off his game. He expected a boxing match and got a brawler instead. With Ricky he would know what to expect. Could be closer at 115-113with a 10-8 round giving it to Ricky.
Lets not get carried away with Ricky. He only fought one pure boxer and got his a$$ handed to him.
Lets not get carried away with Ricky. He only fought one pure boxer and got his a$$ handed to him.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
Khan is no pure boxer and everyone has their butt handed to them by mayweather. Losing to the likes of Peterson and Garcia is more indicative of a boxers level, hatton wouldn't be losing to them in a million years.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
Lascano also gave Hatton fits and many had him ahead at the end. Probably would have knocked him out given another round.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Amir Khan v Carlos Molina
What people had Lazcano beating Hatton? A huge contradiction of the realities of that fight where Hatton comfortably won 11 out of the 12 rounds with a slight wobble near the end.
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