Il Azzurini

by **Afro** Sun 30 Sep 2012, 2:20 pm

WELCOME TO THE HOME OF
IL AZZURINI

A team comprising under 21s, with the exception of a maximum of 3 overage players

PLAYERS (24)
Goalkeepers
Mattia Perin U21 ITA
Jack Butland U21

Defenders
Matija Nastasic U21
Raphael Varane U21
Mattia de Sciglio ITA U21
Marquinhos U21
David Alaba U21
Serge Aurier U21
Lucas DigneU21
Luke Shaw U21

Midfielders
Marco Verratti ITA U21
Granit Xhaka U21
Alessandro Florenzi ITA
Julian Draxler U21
Lucas Ocampos U21
Mateo Kovacic U21
Philippe Coutinho U21
Daniele de Rossi ITA
Leon Goretzka U21

Forwards
Wilfried Zaha U21
Stephen El Shaawary ITA U21
Romelu Lukaku U21
Jurgen Locadia U21
Marco Icardi U21

No of Italians = 6
No of U21s = 22

OUT ON LOAN

BUDGET = £60.35m:

PLAYERS BOUGHT:

PLAYERS SOLD:

OTHER:

SEASON TWO FINANCES:

SEASON ONE FINANCES:

by Trebs Sun 30 Sep 2012, 5:51 pm

I signed Casemiro Whistle

by Guest Mon 08 Oct 2012, 4:58 pm

And people prefer your squad Laugh

by **Afro** Mon 08 Oct 2012, 4:59 pm

You're so out of touch, you probably don't know who half of them are

by Guest Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:09 pm

I know who every single one of them is. Mirallas isn't a striker. Totti isn't either (anymore). Luongo is there for the U21, nothing more. Only Gargano in your midfield shows quality on a consistent basis. The defence is sturdy, but nothing special. Keepers miles better than Olly's. I'm not saying it's not good, I'm merely suggesting that you shouldn't be crowing about it. It's very beatable.

by **Afro** Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:19 pm

Every team is beatable picard

But you are showing yourself up to be behind the times.

Plus you genuinely don't know much about Mirallas then (ignoring the fact they are down as forwards, not strikers)

by Guest Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:50 pm

I've seen Mirallas play probably 50 times. I'm a Belgium fan remember? Everton play him in his best position. Which is wide right (or left) with license to get forward. As a lone striker he's ineffective, and if he's part of a two, he needs to be with someone like Lukaku / Carroll. Great player.

by **Afro** Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:53 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:I've seen Mirallas play probably 50 times. I'm a Belgium fan remember? Everton play him in his best position. Which is wide right (or left) with license to get forward. As a lone striker he's ineffective, and if he's part of a two, he needs to be with someone like Lukaku / Carroll. Great player.

I'll dig out the quote, but in an interview he says himself that he has never played RW and is more used to playing LW or up front (where he scored most of his goals for Olympiakos last season). But he will play wherever he is picked. Plus two goals and an assist on his Everton debut playing as a lone striker Whistle

(admittedly against Leyton Orient Laugh

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by Guest Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:55 pm

I've seen him in the flesh play as an RM. So he's a liar. warning

by **Afro** Mon 08 Oct 2012, 5:57 pm

I quoted wrong. He said he had played very little there. Can't find the actual interview now picard

, only this with a few quotes from it

http://www.everton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=295513

As I can't back it up, I had better retract...

by Guest Mon 08 Oct 2012, 7:54 pm

Well all you have against you is my word, so most people would call us both fibbers Laugh

I've not been deliberately critical of everyone - but if you're telling me that keepers don't matter, why don't we all have David Seaman / John Lukic in goal?every team has it's weaknesses - mine and Vivas has plenty - but my comments today have been an honest appraisal of people's teams, and I fear that people are very touchy about weaknesses being pointed out. Maybe I could have been nicer...but you lot are all so lovey-dovey and complimentary. There are some real duff players in this league, I think we should all be able to laugh about it, not get huffy and defensive. Hug

Albion beat Everton btw. Don't forget that Wink

by **Afro** Mon 08 Oct 2012, 8:00 pm

I'm not saying that keepers make no difference, but you may as well have Tom Howard as Hart because they don't influence the votes enough.

I do agree that olly needs to upgrade his, but with the budget limits keepers would be one of the first positions I'd skimp on

by GSC Tue 09 Oct 2012, 1:51 pm

It would really depend on what I could get to replace him, I'll have a look.

by Fernando Tue 09 Oct 2012, 2:21 pm

would depend on what's offered really both are top quality forwards just their age that got them under the limit Smile

by TwisT Tue 09 Oct 2012, 4:01 pm

Yes I would be interested in that. As long as there is a recall close in that two week loan whereby if Hunts is injured I can take Drogba back

by TwisT Tue 09 Oct 2012, 4:10 pm

I don't bother to read the rules. I just get guys like you to point it out to me. Laugh

3 weeks is fine. You can have him for longer if you want. As long as I get that recall clause.

by TwisT Tue 09 Oct 2012, 4:21 pm

Well thinking about it the 2m is more appealing after 3 weeks if you want it permanant.

I am not sure who is the better fit for my team and whether Totti would even feature.

Let me get back to you....you need that Italian anyway

by FIFA Diva Thu 11 Oct 2012, 11:27 am

Hi posting on everyones page for future ref.

by **Afro** Thu 11 Oct 2012, 12:14 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hi posting on everyones page for future ref.

Surely it makes more sense for Azzy to do this?

by **Hero** Thu 11 Oct 2012, 12:53 pm

Viva's given the big important duties like this. Soon he'll upgrade to finding out the prices of players and everything when he gets his next gold star.

by FIFA Diva Thu 11 Oct 2012, 3:54 pm

Hero do you still sleep in the shed or has the wife allowed you to sleep on the Sofa for being a good boy?

by **Afro** Thu 11 Oct 2012, 4:19 pm

Lads, lads, lads.

No more fighting. let's sit down in Hero's shed and talk about this nicely

by **Hero** Thu 11 Oct 2012, 4:39 pm

My shed needs a good de-cluttering tbh.
Azzy can you send round your minion to do it?

by FIFA Diva Thu 11 Oct 2012, 5:26 pm

You have to ask the Mrs if you can breathe let alone doing something drastic as getting the shed fixed

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 9:48 am

I am interested in Matip + Totti.

Is it possible to have Drogba + Shawcross if you can get that otehr ITA?

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 10:05 am

Well I don't mind telling you my plans. I am thinking of going 5-4-1 counter attacker or 4-2-3-1 with Matip and Rolfes together. Matip's ability to play both CB and DCM gives me that option, even though it breaks a potential Stoke partnership.

I would like to improve the right hand side as well (even though I like Routledge). So Mirrallas or Afellay available?

Lots of things we can do I think.

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 10:14 am

Well drop Totti then to make it easier for a deal.

I won't do Drogba + Shawcross = Matip and I know you won't do Matip = Drogba.

I would rather do Drogba + Shawcross = Matip + ??? or even Drogba + Shawcross + ??? = Matip + ???

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 10:21 am

I would love to get Matip and Afellay to be honest.

Matip + Afellay = Drogba + Shawcross + Routledge

ENQ

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 10:28 am

I would swap Routledge for Sterling but then I would need an U21. Laugh

I could do a 2 for 4 deal?

by Marky Fri 12 Oct 2012, 10:36 am

If you want an Italian, i'd be willing to let Paolo Cannavaro go but i'd want Matip in return, so not sure if it affects other deals.

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 10:38 am

Yeah there is, but as you are not in my league you don't have to worry about that Laugh

I can't offer you Draxler. I will take a Usami to take the U21 loss of Sterling. Then I will add someone else. Amount of people that went for Sterling has got to mean that you can get a big deal even if you don't want him.

It just so happens you have the players I want, hence why I am offering him to you.

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 10:47 am

How about...

Matip + Afellay + Maxwell for Drogba + Shawcross + Sterling + Adriano

ENQ

No U21 problems, no italian problems and you get your two Schalke players.

I then lose Adriano, you was the first player I wanted due to his ability to play both flanks. Plus I STILL have a U21 problem, as losing Sterling leaves me with two. So no thank you.

Matip + Afellay + Usami (U21) = Drogba + Sterling (U21) + Shawcross

ENQ

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 10:52 am

I am not losing Adriano as he gives me the choice of just having 3 FB's. I would then have to go out and find a RB somewhere.

This appears to be the starting point:

Matip + Afellay + Usami (U21) = Drogba + Sterling (U21) + Shawcross

It is just agreeing the extra player to add my side.

by **Afro** Fri 12 Oct 2012, 11:07 am

Matip + Afellay + Usami (U21) = Drogba + Sterling (U21) + Shawcross

I'm not sure who you would add though to persuade me. I see Sterling as a big step down from Afelay, despite the interest, plus Usami is my cover for both wings and AM.

It would take someone like Adriano to do it. I could offer Torosidis instead, who will cover RB, LB, RW and DM.

otherwise, I'm not sure what we can do

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 11:17 am

He is hardly a big step down. He is playing regular for Liverpool and he is raved about on here. Look at the amount of people who went for him. I am sure you can use Sterling to get an upgrade. Afellay isn't even first choice at Shalke at the mo.

There is no point doing a deal with another team for Sterling for someone else you like, then offering you in the deal. Just going around in circles Laugh

Matip + Afellay + Usami (U21) = Drogba + Sterling (U21) + Shawcross + ???

Adriano is NFS. I got loads of players to choose from apart from him and my Shalke lot.

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 11:22 am

Hitzspelger, Routledge, Duff, Gentner

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 1:21 pm

Strange choice I have to say.

Ok then Matip = Drogba

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 1:25 pm

Matip + Afellay + Usami (U21) = Drogba + Sterling (U21) + Shawcross + ???

Right, I will make a question on the homepage. Lets see what peoples feelings are. If it is really positive for Sterling however, you may well lose out on the ??? Laugh

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 1:30 pm

You had an hour and a half after you posted no before I replied Laugh

You can have as much time as you want. I only want to deal with you if Sterling is part of it. No rush.

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 1:36 pm

Well you need that CF. I just can't see Tevez playing up top on his own. Just my opinion

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 1:52 pm

Alright, no worries.

What for Matip?

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 2:11 pm

You are having a laugh.

Ok, thanks anyway.

by TwisT Fri 12 Oct 2012, 3:18 pm

Have no cash. I really want Afellay and Matip Crying or Very sad

by Gregers Sat 13 Oct 2012, 7:37 pm

Cassani and x = Anyukov?

by TwisT Mon 15 Oct 2012, 9:06 am

Weekend to think about a Matip and Afellay deal?

I am waiting for something to happen that might entice you to sell

by TwisT Mon 15 Oct 2012, 10:52 am

Matip + Afellay + Usami (U21) = Drogba + Sterling (U21) + Shawcross + £1.5m

ENQ

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 15 Oct 2012, 1:13 pm

I have no problem because I have a plan B Il Azzurini 3559488474

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 16 Oct 2012, 11:17 am

Mathijsen + Maher + Totti + £0.2m = Kroos

No deal.

by Gregers Tue 16 Oct 2012, 9:53 pm

I'm very tempted on Markys offer so it would have to be big

by Trebs Thu 18 Oct 2012, 2:55 pm

I probably wouldn't have dealt in any case because I prefer Zidane's offer, sorry.

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