Shanghai Thread

by The Special Juan Mon 08 Oct 2012, 11:38 am

First topic message reminder :

Draw here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Shanghai_Rolex_Masters_%E2%80%93_Singles

Is it just me or is the court painfully slow?

by CAS Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:23 pm

Federer plays 100 percent he wins, both players play 75 percent Murray wins.

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:24 pm

Fed has clearly been the second best since midway through the first set, but he is still hanging in there.

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:26 pm

CAS wrote:both players play 75 percent Murray wins.

You think so? I think Murray is playing closer to his own best than Fed, so hard to tell from this match. I would say if they both play at 75%, Fed still wins.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:26 pm

This game could be where mental exhaustion starts to show up. I feel holding here is a must.

by CAS Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:29 pm

summerblues wrote:
CAS wrote:both players play 75 percent Murray wins.
You think so? I think Murray is playing closer to his own best than Fed, so hard to tell from this match. I would say if they both play at 75%, Fed still wins.

Yeah I agree Murray is playing better than 75 percent and Federer is around 60 to be honest. I can't quite believe Federer is still in this match considering that

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:29 pm

That was only out by 50 feet.

by Danny_1982 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:30 pm

The match has hit a slight lull now.

This is where I can see Federer pouncing and changing the momentum.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:31 pm

Well, these returns are not the usual pushing.

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:31 pm

Deuce from 40-0 - yet again.

by Danny_1982 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:32 pm

So much for the lull. That was sensational from Murray.

by CAS Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:32 pm

Murray only plays this aggressively against Federer I swear

by **laverfan** Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:33 pm

From 40-0 to being broken. Crying or Very sad

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:34 pm

Could not dig himself out this time. It will be hard to come back from this. He would need to up his game considerably to have a chance.

Some of Murray's returning has been just breath-taking.

by Danny_1982 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:34 pm

CAS wrote:Murray only plays this aggressively against Federer I swear

He tries to play this aggressively against Rafa sometimes, he just doesn't do it as well.

Against Novak he mixes it up more. I think he thinks he can outlast Novak physically.

Murray has has 11 break points to Roger's 1.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:35 pm

CAS wrote:Murray only plays this aggressively against Federer I swear

Federer allowed him to play this way. Mugray will be back to his pushing self when against a player with unreadable serves, good rallying, no lazy strokes etc.

Tomorrow it is.

by **laverfan** Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:35 pm

The Nadal-technique as employed by Murray. BH and more BH. Laugh

by **laverfan** Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:37 pm

Kamikaze mode on from Federer, I think he is done for the night.

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:39 pm

laverfan wrote:Kamikaze mode on from Federer, I think he is done for the night.

LOL no kidding. Never say never but nothing they have done tonight suggests Fed can turn it around.

by CAS Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:40 pm

I think Federer will have one more shot to break, he has to take it.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:41 pm

First time in AGES Murray loses a point that he controlled from first shot. Federer not ready to be phased out.

by Guest Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:41 pm

An awful display from Fed so far.

Murray has been pretty good though, especially on the return.

by Danny_1982 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:42 pm

He's hanging in there.

He doesn't look like he fancies another hour of this though.

by User 774433 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:42 pm

Murray wins in straights, well played.
Djokovic still slight favourite for the final imo.

by **laverfan** Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:42 pm

The 3-DFs-in-a-row was a clear indication of a bad day at the office.

I do not want him to break his racquet though. Just play calm and steady. Annacone needs to chastise him.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:44 pm

20 second cameo from Wizarderer.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:49 pm

Federers 10th loss to this serveless warrior coming up. Lack of serve affected the opposite player today.

by **laverfan** Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:49 pm

The roof was supposed to be closed. Sad

by Guest Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:50 pm

Huh I thought this was an indoor court.

LOL

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:50 pm

That was one ugly cockroach.

by **laverfan** Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:50 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Federers 10th loss to this serveless warrior coming up. Lack of serve affected the opposite player today.

Give Murray credit for playing aggressive. See CAS's comment. Wink

by Danny_1982 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:52 pm

Murray the serveless warrior? Shocked

He's won over 80% behind that non-existent first serve today!

by User 774433 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:53 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:Murray the serveless warrior?

He's won over 80% behind that non-existent first serve today!

Josiah's logic thumbsup

Stats

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:57 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:
Danny_1982 wrote:Murray the serveless warrior?

He's won over 80% behind that non-existent first serve today!
Josiah's logic
Stats

Time wasting MTO's, injured *knees* thumbsup

Playing fairly and accepting properly a loss thumbsdown

The motto in the Nadal house. Rolling Eyes

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 2:59 pm

Gangnam Style Cool

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:00 pm

Surely it is unfair to let fans wait for maybe 30 minutes and then wrap up the match in one game. Andy should understand this and let Roger back into it.

by User 774433 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:00 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
It Must Be Love wrote:
Danny_1982 wrote:Murray the serveless warrior?

He's won over 80% behind that non-existent first serve today!
Josiah's logic
Stats
Time wasting MTO's, injured *knees*

Playing fairly and accepting properly a loss

The motto in the Nadal house.

Josiah's secret CCTV in Nadal's house thumbsup

Federer and Mirka dancing Gangnam style at home thumbsdown

by Guest Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:01 pm

is it over?

by Danny_1982 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:02 pm

Murray has served better and returned better all match. That's what it has come down to. Federer has battled well to save a number of those points.

Murray has really aggressively attacked the Federer serve, mixed up his own serve, and played both aggressive and occasionally loopy balls to the Federer backhand....

But If someone asked me what Federer's gameplan was, I'm not sure I'd know how to answer.

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:03 pm

emancipator wrote:is it over?

technically it is not.

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:09 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:But If someone asked me what Federer's gameplan was, I'm not sure I'd know how to answer.

Maybe like this?

bogbrush wrote:I think he only came here for 300.

by Danny_1982 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:12 pm

Hmm, not sure about that. A great champion like Federer not bothered about a match against one of his biggest rivals?

Not for me. I've always said that whenever the top 4 meet each other, it always matters.

by User 774433 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:12 pm

summerblues wrote:
Danny_1982 wrote:But If someone asked me what Federer's gameplan was, I'm not sure I'd know how to answer.

Maybe like this?

bogbrush wrote:I think he only came here for 300.

If that is the case, that's frankly pathetic.
All his fans have paid expensive tickets to cheer him on, and he's just turned up to create some good stats, not caring for the tournament or his fans.

I don't think that's true though, Murray's just returning too well, Federer's not been at his best.

by bogbrush Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:18 pm

summerblues wrote:
Danny_1982 wrote:But If someone asked me what Federer's gameplan was, I'm not sure I'd know how to answer.

Maybe like this?

bogbrush wrote:I think he only came here for 300.

Hang on, I said that before the quarters, not during this match.

by bogbrush Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:19 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:
summerblues wrote:
Danny_1982 wrote:But If someone asked me what Federer's gameplan was, I'm not sure I'd know how to answer.

Maybe like this?

bogbrush wrote:I think he only came here for 300.
If that is the case, that's frankly pathetic.
All his fans have paid expensive tickets to cheer him on, and he's just turned up to create some good stats, not caring for the tournament or his fans.

I don't think that's true though, Murray's just returning too well, Federer's not been at his best.

You're shooting from the hip.

I said that in terms of I doubt he'd be here if it hadn't been to get that great milestone.

by User 774433 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:23 pm

No, I'm not directly talking about your claim Bogbrush.
Danny asked why Federer is playing poorly, and I responded to that.

by summerblues Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:26 pm

Oh well.

by User 774433 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:26 pm

Well played Murray clap

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:27 pm

Worst player wins.

Good for the British media and blinded Britannia, bad for rest of the world. Shanghai final will have its lowest interest EVER.

by User 774433 Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:27 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Worst player wins.

Good for the British media and blinded Britannia, bad for rest of the world. Shanghai final will have its lowest interest EVER.

Load of BS.

by **laverfan** Sat 13 Oct 2012, 3:28 pm

Well played Murray. clap

Paris, Basel for Federer.

Goodall-Koenig think it was a high-quality match despite the challenges. I tend to agree with them.

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